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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
The guy's career and play speak for themselves, no one wanted to go down in the corners (except maybe Burtuzzi ) when that guy was on the ice. He was the most feared dman of the 90's, period. Stevens hit hard, sure. He's probably in the conversation, but Pronger was much better at defending than Stevens who wasn't actually that good at covering and the technical side of defending.
- neem55

Having Brodeur in goal makes any defenseman look good.
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 5:49 PM ET
Sorry all...but if a defensive defenseman award were to be handed out it would have to be called the Langway Trophy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 5:50 PM ET
Having Brodeur in goal makes any defenseman look good.
- A_SteamingLombardi



We have Markstrom , you are preaching to the choir
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 1 @ 5:50 PM ET
Having Brodeur in goal makes any defenseman look good.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Having Neidemeyer as defensive partner makes anyone look good too. Not to mention the trap
It worked, but man do I ever not miss it.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
Sorry all...but if a defensive defenseman award were to be handed out it would have to be called the Langway Trophy.
- Renidrag

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:00 PM ET
I think having more awards dilutes the value .

Best goalie

Best goal scorer

Best defenseman

Most Points

Best coach

League MVP

Best Hot Dogs ( The Lefty Trophy)
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:09 PM ET
I think having more awards dilutes the value .

Best goalie

Best goal scorer

Best defenseman

Most Points

Best coach

League MVP

Best Hot Dogs ( The Lefty Trophy)

- VANTEL

I think we should just focus on The Ring of Honour.
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 6:13 PM ET
I think we should just focus on The Ring of Honour.
- Marwood


Why hasn't Andre Boudrias been placed there yet?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 1 @ 6:14 PM ET
I think having more awards dilutes the value .

Best goalie

Best goal scorer

Best defenseman

Most Points

Best coach

League MVP

Best Hot Dogs ( The Lefty Trophy)

- VANTEL

I think it should be treated just like Hockeybuzz, give all players a participation ribbon and turn the Stanley Cup into a spittoon. Then Leafs fans can say we won 13 Spittoons.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 1 @ 6:15 PM ET
That's what I was referring too, defensive only
- Makita

This is why he would have amazing value though. After a team gets the first goal, keeping the puck out of the net becomes that much more important. Tanev gives any team in the league the best chance they have to win games, or the cup. As much as defensemen that can score are admired, the majority of offensive defensmen are not the greatest at defending. Tanev is great at getting the puck out of our zone, which helps create offense. Imagine how much better his offense driving numbers would improve on a team that can actually do something with what he does on the ice on the back end.

I love having Tanev on the team as he makes us better, however in 4 years when we are starting to actually be competitive again, he will be 31 and it is hard to say if he will still be effective like Keith still is at an older age, or if he will be useless like Seabrook is in his older age. Some defensemen stay good until they are mid 30's, some declined sharply after 30. We are not in a position to wait and see what happens with him. Getting a ton of assets for him now will give us the best chance to be better in 4 years and beyond that.

That being said, if Tanev is traded, Guddy will be needed more. I say one is traded and one is kept to eat minutes in order to help the young guys develop. I prefer to keep Tanev over Guddy TBH.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:16 PM ET
Comets home opener in 45 minutes. That was one crazy start to their schedule.

Bettmanhatesus
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:17 PM ET
I think it should be treated just like Hockeybuzz, give all players a participation ribbon and turn the Stanley Cup into a spittoon. Then Leafs fans can say we won 13 Spittoons.
- A_SteamingLombardi

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Comets home opener in 45 minutes. That was one crazy start to their schedule.

Andrewshatesus

- VANTEL

Fixed
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
Comets home opener in 45 minutes. That was one crazy start to their schedule.

Bettmanhatesus

- VANTEL


it was caused by renovations, no?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
This is why he would have amazing value though. After a team gets the first goal, keeping the puck out of the net becomes that much more important. Tanev gives any team in the league the best chance they have to win games, or the cup. As much as defensemen that can score are admired, the majority of offensive defensmen are not the greatest at defending. Tanev is great at getting the puck out of our zone, which helps create offense. Imagine how much better his offense driving numbers would improve on a team that can actually do something with what he does on the ice on the back end.

I love having Tanev on the team as he makes us better, however in 4 years when we are starting to actually be competitive again, he will be 31 and it is hard to say if he will still be effective like Keith still is at an older age, or if he will be useless like Seabrook is in his older age. Some defensemen stay good until they are mid 30's, some declined sharply after 30. We are not in a position to wait and see what happens with him. Getting a ton of assets for him now will give us the best chance to be better in 4 years and beyond that.

That being said, if Tanev is traded, Guddy will be needed more. I say one is traded and one is kept to eat minutes in order to help the young guys develop. I prefer to keep Tanev over Guddy TBH.

- Retinalz



Over the years I never really liked Tanev . I thought he was too soft and brought no offense. It is just in the last few months I see his value to Canucks. When I hear of mentorship and protecting young players he is a perfect candidate. He does make his partner better and would be very useful for developing OJ Pouliot Hutton or if we draft a top 5 pick this year.

Canucks seem to be taking a step forward and I think him there teaching would be a better value than a first round return pick?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:26 PM ET
it was caused by renovations, no?
- bloatedmosquito


Not sure but it always fun to blame Bettman
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:27 PM ET
Why hasn't Andre Boudrias been placed there yet?
- Renidrag

This may lead to a polarizing disagreement.

Who is going in next?
Are coaches eligible?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 1 @ 6:28 PM ET
Not sure but it always fun to blame Bettman
- VANTEL


lol. understood.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:30 PM ET
it was caused by renovations, no?
- bloatedmosquito

Yes.
They were adding a Cuddling Section.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 1 @ 6:30 PM ET
This may lead to a polarizing disagreement.

Who is going in next?
Are coaches eligible?

- Marwood


yes, coaches and canuck related personalities. load it up. doesn't matter. dubious honour.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
yes, coaches and canuck related personalities. load it up. doesn't matter. dubious honour.
- bloatedmosquito

This will lead to an inclusive discussion.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
This may lead to a polarizing disagreement.

Who is going in next?
Are coaches eligible?

- Marwood


Naslund? Bure?

Trevor Linden??

How's about we put the Sedins in to expedite the process.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 1 @ 6:32 PM ET
This will lead to an inclusive discussion.
- Marwood


John tortorella...come on down!
Renidrag
Joined: 10.18.2016

Nov 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
This may lead to a polarizing disagreement.

Who is going in next?
Are coaches eligible?

- Marwood


Libor Polasek-greatest Canuck 1st rounder ever
Bill Laforge-greatest coach ever
Bob Manno-greatest Canuck defenseman ever
😆
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
Yes.
They were adding a Cuddling Section.

- Marwood

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