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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 1 @ 7:54 PM ET
Is aiming for even keeled acceptable?
- Marwood


No, you need to go full Esplen.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 1 @ 7:54 PM ET
that picture is a little too angry. can we tone it down a smidge? here you go:

- RealityChecker

Thanks.
I felt awkward saying something to such a good poster.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 1 @ 8:00 PM ET
I'd call it the Norris... then award the orr for the most offensive dman and the lidstrome for the moist balanced one...
- Pres.cup


I think there’s a cream for that
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 1 @ 8:03 PM ET
Over the years I never really liked Tanev . I thought he was too soft and brought no offense. It is just in the last few months I see his value to Canucks. When I hear of mentorship and protecting young players he is a perfect candidate. He does make his partner better and would be very useful for developing OJ Pouliot Hutton or if we draft a top 5 pick this year.

Canucks seem to be taking a step forward and I think him there teaching would be a better value than a first round return pick?

- VANTEL

Agreed, then GUddy gets traded at TDL and we keep Tanev for the term of his contract. Unless our socks get blown off by an offer on Tanev. I am talking something like Marner for Tanev offer(won't happen, just an example)
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 1 @ 8:06 PM ET
I must have missed something . Did CaptEO pay us a visit again? I didn't bother checking all day yesterday .
- VANTEL



Do you have a blue line across the top of your screen...?

So are you watching Comets game or just "vantelivision" updates...?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 8:08 PM ET
Do you have a blue line across the top of your screen...?

So are you watching Comets game or just "vantelivision" updates...?

- Nuck4U

Updates
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 1 @ 8:08 PM ET
that picture is a little too angry. can we tone it down a smidge? here you go:

- RealityChecker

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 1 @ 8:16 PM ET
Agreed, then GUddy gets traded at TDL and we keep Tanev for the term of his contract. Unless our socks get blown off by an offer on Tanev. I am talking something like Marner for Tanev offer(won't happen, just an example)
- Retinalz



Would it harm the rebuild if both Guddy and Tanev are kept? At least until Canucks develop right shot D to replace them?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 8:27 PM ET
D Aoust 3-2
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 1 @ 8:28 PM ET
Would it harm the rebuild if both Guddy and Tanev are kept? At least until Canucks develop right shot D to replace them?
- Nuck4U

I don't think Guddy get's re-signed. Why keep a player that is worth around 3.8m when they will want 4.5m?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 8:32 PM ET
I don't think Guddy get's re-signed. Why keep a player that is worth around 3.8m when they will want 4.5m?
- Retinalz


He is having a strong year so not sure what his value is. If he is only a fighter then no. He is looking more like Willie Mitchell this year
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 1 @ 8:41 PM ET
I don't think Guddy get's re-signed. Why keep a player that is worth around 3.8m when they will want 4.5m?
- Retinalz

He will get at least 4.5. Salaries are going up every year, 4.5 is his value whether we're the ones that pay it or another team. I'd like to see him stay, I love the snarl he provides.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:01 PM ET
I don't think Guddy get's re-signed. Why keep a player that is worth around 3.8m when they will want 4.5m?
- Retinalz


I don't have an insight on worth regarding contract versus hockey impact. Guess it depends on a couple factors like term and market value with cap rise.

Though do you toss Guddy over that $700K difference without any prospect replacement?

Maybe a smarter/more knowledgeable poster will opine that it's easy to replace a 3rd pairing RD with a plug UFA. That my query is misplaced because it's better to keep collecting draft picks and make sure team stays bottom 3rd.

Not sure that tact guarantees better development for team and prospects.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 1 @ 9:24 PM ET
I know players play on the edge but when Pronger used his skate to try and take off Kesler's leg that was too much. I laugh when I see him charge of player safety
- VANTEL

Agree it's a joke. I remember when Pronger cross-checked some Detroit player in the face on their run to the cup final with ANA. Didn't even get a 2min penalty if memory serves. There is tough clean hockey and there are jokes like Pronger…Laughable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
Agree it's a joke. I remember when Pronger cross-checked some Detroit player in the face on their run to the cup final with ANA. Didn't even get a 2min penalty if memory serves. There is tough clean hockey and there are jokes like Pronger…Laughable.
- LordHumungous


He claims to avoid cap recapture he couldn't play because of concussion. He even claimed he had to stay in a dark room so the NHL hires him while he was still under contract for Flyers. He gets to judge players penalty while employed by Phi
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 1 @ 9:34 PM ET
I don't have an insight on worth regarding contract versus hockey impact. Guess it depends on a couple factors like term and market value with cap rise.

Though do you toss Guddy over that $700K difference without any prospect replacement?

Maybe a smarter/more knowledgeable poster will opine that it's easy to replace a 3rd pairing RD with a plug UFA. That my query is misplaced because it's better to keep collecting draft picks and make sure team stays bottom 3rd.

Not sure that tact guarantees better development for team and prospects.

- Nuck4U

I think that if he his not signed by TDL or it seems like he may not sign, you ship him out 100%. The problem with keeping him is that we have two fully defensive defensemen in him and Tanev, but no defenseman with the offensive flair to accommodate. Hutton, Stetcher, Del Zotto, Edler, Pouliot none of them are 50-60pt defensemen. We really need that PP1 QB type that can pair with Tanev.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 9:35 PM ET
I personally PM her a "thank you" every time something good happens in my life
- Nucker101


I'm pretty sure that's called stalking.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 9:39 PM ET
I think that if he his not signed by TDL or it seems like he may not sign, you ship him out 100%. The problem with keeping him is that we have two fully defensive defensemen in him and Tanev, but no defenseman with the offensive flair to accommodate. Hutton, Stetcher, Del Zotto, Edler, Pouliot none of them are 50-60pt defensemen. We really need that PP1 QB type that can pair with Tanev.
- Retinalz

Draft him
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 1 @ 9:46 PM ET
I think that if he his not signed by TDL or it seems like he may not sign, you ship him out 100%. The problem with keeping him is that we have two fully defensive defensemen in him and Tanev, but no defenseman with the offensive flair to accommodate. Hutton, Stetcher, Del Zotto, Edler, Pouliot none of them are 50-60pt defensemen. We really need that PP1 QB type that can pair with Tanev.
- Retinalz


Agree if he doesn't want to sign to trade Guddy. But that's apart from what you want to sign him for value wise.

Anyway, JB agrees with you too about RD QB. It's on his wish list. Perhaps this draft Canucks can get one of the many D candidates.

It's not likely by trade or free agency a QB D is found as they are a hot commodity. Though that Butcher kid is doing it for Devils now. Stecher hasn't quite developed that and likely stop gap until one is drafted.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 1 @ 9:48 PM ET
Comets lose in shoot out
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 9:50 PM ET
how come there is a selke award for forwards, but not defenseman.

there should be a defensive defenseman award.
i'd call it the lidstrom.

- dbot


I've always thought this too. It's always the offensive player winning the Norris... even if he can't play D worth crap.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 1 @ 9:51 PM ET
I'm pretty sure that's called stalking.

- boonerbuck


Not even one "you're welcome" from her
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
Man, I don't remember anything positive being said about the canucks after last season let alone anything about Tanev.

I like the player. Never thought he was the cause of any canuck issues. But I never placed him top 10 in the league. I thought the general consensus on here was that he was trade bait.

Now, it's top 10 in the league. Ok, if that's the narrative now, I'll go with it...

- bloatedmosquito



His recent appearance for Canada put a big spotlight on him in the media over coaching and teammate comments propping him up as elite.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
Not even one "you're welcome" from her
- Nucker101


Leave a sad note on her windowsill.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
John Hynes is an alien
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