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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
for a team that started it's rebuild in 2012

the prospect pool is blah
the young impact players are blah
the current team is blah


and we have little cap and little returns to show for all those draft picks over the years


and this team is not close to being ready

right now, maybe 2019-20 they might sniff the playoffs

- homiedclown



Didn’t answer the question & clearly ignored the point...
let’s say we just “tank” for the rest of this year...
is that enough?
The following offseason,
can’t we just say we should tank again?

We aren’t gonna magically jump from picking in the top8 every year to a playoff team the next

Building this team is gonna be a process
Which has been delayed bc of the DEFENSE, not Kane & O’Reilly
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM ET
Zadorov has more goals than all of our d men this season
- homiedclown


Bartender not working tonight.

2 ginger ales and time to go home.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM ET
If they were that much against Kane,
he’d have been LONG gone by now

Fine... play Sam with Jack then
Can Mittelstadt Center a productive 3rd line?
I’d say yes

- jdfitz77


Kane is an asset, similar to a natural gas well.
The pegulas are business people
You can't just let an asset go, that's a business decision.
Kane wasn't wanted , contending teams do not need the baggage. He's playing great, but:

He has lockroom issues
Off ice issues
Injury concerns
Makes pretty big $, especially with the 2/3 years left when the trouble started.

That's not for everyone or anyone?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:57 PM ET
Bartender not working tonight.

2 ginger ales and time to go home.

- Der Kaiser

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 6 @ 8:58 PM ET
I'd move Kane right now if they are not going to sign him

Imagine if he gets seriously hurt, and just walks july 1st

- homiedclown


That’s fair...
but haven’t u said u heard we are trying to sign him?

I’m just saying it’s not DEFINITE that he’s a goner
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:58 PM ET
[quote=jdfitz77
Building this team is gonna be a process
Which has been delayed bc of the DEFENSE, not Kane & O’Reilly
they have been building since 2012


and the last GM pissed away draft picks instead of drafting d men
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 8:59 PM ET
That’s fair...
but haven’t u said u heard we are trying to sign him?

I’m just saying it’s not DEFINITE that he’s a goner

- jdfitz77

I heard they are worried about the cap long term if they sign him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 9:01 PM ET


He has lockroom issues
Off ice issues
Injury concerns
Makes pretty big $, especially with the 2/3 years left when the trouble started.

That's not for everyone or anyone?

- Boss34

ZERO issues with Kane in the sabres locker room

ZERO credible off ice issues with Kane as a sabre, cept the all star nba issue


pretty consistent at staying on the ice as a sabre
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 6 @ 9:01 PM ET

Building this team is gonna be a process
Which has been delayed bc of the DEFENSE, not Kane & O’Reilly
they have been building since 2012

and the last GM pissed away draft picks instead of drafting d men

- homiedclown


Agree
But that doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING he did was a mistake

O’Reilly & Kane are good players who we need imo
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
Bartender not working tonight.

2 gingers and a few ales and time to go home.

- Der Kaiser


Fixed that for ya for fantasy sake .

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 6 @ 9:02 PM ET
How so?

ROR is good. Really good.

He’s not good enough to be a contending teams 2nd in command.

Especially if we don’t have an all star cast D core like Nashville

- sbroads24


Are there really 10 teams with better 2nd line centers than ror?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
Agree
But that doesn’t mean that EVERYTHING he did was a mistake

O’Reilly & Kane are good players who we need imo

- jdfitz77

if Kane walks

we are left with bogo, ror and fasching

and lehner
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:03 PM ET

- homiedclown


Sabres have won 4 games this season .

INCLUDING PRESEASON GAMES.


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 6 @ 9:05 PM ET
ZERO issues with Kane in the sabres locker room

ZERO credible off ice issues with Kane as a sabre, cept the all star nba issue


pretty consistent at staying on the ice as a sabre

- homiedclown



Said this NUMEROUS TIMES...
the night on Chippewa was wildly exaggerated
I know ppl who were there
Kane was kinda douchy, but didn’t do anything “wrong”

The girl’s story was utter BS
There’s not a “back door” in that bar where he could’ve taken her out to a parking lot & the car
They would’ve had to walk around the block
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 6 @ 9:05 PM ET
Are there really 10 teams with better 2nd line centers than ror?
- Boss34


No.

Maybe better point producers. But not better overall.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 6 @ 9:06 PM ET

- homiedclown


It’s like a 25 minute drive.

And I didn’t even bring Big Mike cause he got so loud last week.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
if Kane walks

we are left with bogo, ror and fasching

and lehner

- homiedclown



It’s not GMTM’s fault if he isn’t re-signed
Was still a good trade to get him
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
No.

Maybe better point producers. But not better overall.

- Der Kaiser


Seems to be all about chemistry . Other teams have had years of playing together.
We have 2 or three guys with a few years .
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
It’s like a 25 minute drive.

And I didn’t even bring Big Mike cause he got so loud last week.

- Der Kaiser


i left you a present a few blocks up
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 6 @ 9:09 PM ET
i left you a present a few blocks up
- cabin


That’s why you’re on the “like list” Cab.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:10 PM ET
That’s why you’re on the “like list” Cab.
- Der Kaiser

Thank you sir
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 6 @ 9:10 PM ET
[quote=homiedclown]

See, this is the problem though, process takes a fair amount of time ... 3 more years minimum seems about right ... so 2019 / 2020.
If that is the case, friggin’ trade everyone outside of Jack.
ROR, Kane, Pommer, Scandella, everyone
Burn to the bottom, acquire more picks to load up such that the team matures together.
Reload along the way with smart acquisitions slowly.

Middling it feels like the Bills approach for the past 17 years
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Nov 6 @ 9:11 PM ET
Thank you sir
- cabin

Thank **you** Sir
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 6 @ 9:12 PM ET
It’s like a 25 minute drive.

And I didn’t even bring Big Mike cause he got so loud last week.

- Der Kaiser

hit the reset button

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Nov 6 @ 9:14 PM ET
Thank **you** Sir
- Der Kaiser

I'm her to help.
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