He scored about half of his with Eichel/O'Reilly, half between Gionta and Girgensons, not Larsson.

This year Eichel has assisted on 6 or 7 of his 9.
- sbroads24

Right, I forgot when he got shifted down Larsson got hurt soon after, so they didn't play too much together.

Only 4 goals were scored when Girgensons and Kane were on the ice together.

Kane only played with Jack for 267 minute and away from him for 641. Interestingly they played better team wise together, they scored a higher percentage of goals, but also allowed a higher percentage of goals together GF/60 3.36 GA/3.14.

Kane away from Eichel 2.06 and 2.9

Eichel away from Kane 2.06 and 2.59

So, better offense but worse defense, aka fun.

Is there a site that tells you who scored what amount of goals instead of just how many were scored when said line was out. Corsica doesn't and this puckIQ that has the WOWYs doesn't either.

To Kane? No.

I can't believe people are about to fall for another Stafford-ish contract year
- sbroads24

Again, what was last year then?

Players play better in contract years, yes. Kane is a 25+ goal guy that would play with his guts hanging out and would run through walls for the team. We need players like that.

Idk, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather keep the 26-year old, seems-to-have-cleaned-up-his-act proven 20-goal scorer who's played for entirely SH!T teams his whole career and rarely with a decent center, than the over-30, unknown-neurological-condition-guy-who-only-produced-with-John Tavares.

But hey, to each their own.

Okposo's contract can be moved. Botterill and the organization owe him nothing.

I would rather Kyle get going and flip him at high value, keep salary (Jack ECHL took a "hometown" discount) and just sign Kane to the exact same contract.

You sign 27-year olds to 7-year deals worth 6+ million who score at a better than .5ppg pace and can score 20+ goals a season.

Not over-30, on the decline veterans.

Okposo and Kane's career stats are not even that different. They're both injury-prone, both streaky and both have up and then down seasons, traditionally.

Except one is 26 and entering his prime, looks to be improving as a sniper and player and the other again, is over 30 and basically we know what kind of player he is.

And I never thought he was a very good one, that over-30 player I'm referencing.

More female dogging about ticket prices on WGR today. How do people not understand that if a business is selling its product at a certain price and people keep paying said price the business has no incentive to lower the price? It boggles my mind. Don't renew your season tickets. Don't go to the games. They'll learn very quickly that the prices are too high and react accordingly. That's the free market at work.
- Wetbandit1

Wetbandit - your right with the " don't renew your season tickets" . That works for quite a few of the seats. If you have had season tickets since the aud (which I have not) it's really hard to part with awesome seats. Family seats for generations. Anyone in the corners or upper rows should turn them in. The inflation is disportionate to real life expenses.

Level III 300 . Went from 25 to 26 to 28, 29 now 30. That's 20% in 4 years
Level III 100 . Went from 50 to 52 to 55 to now 57. That's 15% in 3 years

Definitely makes you think twice, for sure. There is always the "what if they are good" and playoff rights too

Right, I forgot when he got shifted down Larsson got hurt soon after, so they didn't play too much together.

Only 4 goals were scored when Girgensons and Kane were on the ice together.

Kane only played with Jack for 267 minute and away from him for 641. Interestingly they played better team wise together, they scored a higher percentage of goals, but also allowed a higher percentage of goals together GF/60 3.36 GA/3.14.

Kane away from Eichel 2.06 and 2.9

Eichel away from Kane 2.06 and 2.59

So, better offense but worse defense, aka fun.

Is there a site that tells you who scored what amount of goals instead of just how many were scored when said line was out. Corsica doesn't and this puckIQ that has the WOWYs doesn't either.
- Wetbandit1

Pretty sure Corsica does, but I havent even checked to see if the site is up this year

Idk, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather keep the 26-year old, seems-to-have-cleaned-up-his-act proven 20-goal scorer who's played for entirely SH!T teams his whole career and rarely with a decent center, than the over-30, unknown-neurological-condition-guy-who-only-produced-with-John Tavares.

But hey, to each their own.

Okposo's contract can be moved. Botterill and the organization owe him nothing.

I would rather Kyle get going and flip him at high value, keep salary (Jack ECHL took a "hometown" discount) and just sign Kane to the exact same contract.

You sign 27-year olds to 7-year deals worth 6+ million who score at a better than .5ppg pace and can score 20+ goals a season.

Not over-30, on the decline veterans.

Okposo and Kane's career stats are not even that different. They're both injury-prone, both streaky and both have up and then down seasons, traditionally.

Except one is 26 and entering his prime, looks to be improving as a sniper and player and the other again, is over 30 and basically we know what kind of player he is.

And I never thought he was a very good one, that over-30 player I'm referencing.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Okposo isn't over 30. He'll turn 30 in the offseason.

Pretty sure Corsica does, but I havent even checked to see if the site is up this year
- sbroads24

It's been up for a while. And they don't, they only show the amount of total goals scored for the line.

Idk, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather keep the 26-year old, seems-to-have-cleaned-up-his-act proven 20-goal scorer who's played for entirely SH!T teams his whole career and rarely with a decent center, than the over-30, unknown-neurological-condition-guy-who-only-produced-with-John Tavares.

But hey, to each their own.

Okposo's contract can be moved. Botterill and the organization owe him nothing.

I would rather Kyle get going and flip him at high value, keep salary (Jack ECHL took a "hometown" discount) and just sign Kane to the exact same contract.

You sign 27-year olds to 7-year deals worth 6+ million who score at a better than .5ppg pace and can score 20+ goals a season.

Not over-30, on the decline veterans.

Okposo and Kane's career stats are not even that different. They're both injury-prone, both streaky and both have up and then down seasons, traditionally.

Except one is 26 and entering his prime, looks to be improving as a sniper and player and the other again, is over 30 and basically we know what kind of player he is.

And I never thought he was a very good one, that over-30 player I'm referencing.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Sure I'd like to keep him too (amazing, I know), but for 7-7.5 mil? No way in hell.

For a 3-4 year deal, yeah that could be ok, 5-8 years? No way.

He's good, but not great, and we've already ponied up for a bunch of players who are in the "good" category, and clearly need to keep room for another great one

Stumped, please help:

Mittelstadt looks great. Not arguing, but I just looked at the following stat and got slightly concerned that we're overhyping him:

Rookie Season Starts:
Mittelstadt 3G, 6A, 9GP
Eichel 7G, 9A, 9GP

Is that just Eichel being a God?

It's been up for a while. And they don't, they only show the amount of total goals scored for the line.
- Wetbandit1

stata.hockeyanalysis had WOWY's, but they are down. So honestly don't know.

I have used naturalstattrick.com

stata.hockeyanalysis had WOWY's, but they are down. So honestly don't know.

I have used naturalstattrick.com
- sbroads24

Where did you get the stats you just used?

stata.hockeyanalysis had WOWY's, but they are down. So honestly don't know.

I have used naturalstattrick.com
- sbroads24

Here's the WOWY site I found.

Corsica's WOWY's aren't up yet. They have player stats, combo(lines/pairings) stats, and games. But a bunch is still not up yet.

Edit: Oops, forgot to add the link http://puckiq.com/wowy/8475169/8478403

Wetbandit - your right with the " don't renew your season tickets" . That works for quite a few of the seats. If you have had season tickets since the aud (which I have not) it's really hard to part with awesome seats. Family seats for generations. Anyone in the corners or upper rows should turn them in. The inflation is disportionate to real life expenses.

Level III 300 . Went from 25 to 26 to 28, 29 now 30. That's 20% in 4 years
Level III 100 . Went from 50 to 52 to 55 to now 57. That's 15% in 3 years

Definitely makes you think twice, for sure. There is always the "what if they are good" and playoff rights too
- Boss34

05/06 my seats were $10 a game
17/18 they are now $30 a game

Stumped, please help:

Mittelstadt looks great. Not arguing, but I just looked at the following stat and got slightly concerned that we're overhyping him:

Rookie Season Starts:
Mittelstadt 3G, 6A, 9GP
Eichel 7G, 9A, 9GP

Is that just Eichel being a God?
- RhinoFan

Interesting stats for sure. Could be team or teammates? I think we hit on middlestat, no e rod on his line?

05/06 my seats were $10 a game
17/18 they are now $30 a game
- dadeadhead

Wow. Ever seriously consider turning them in? Last night the announced croud was low 17,000's. I looked like 1/3:of the seats were open. Whole rows in the lowers.

Also per McKenzie...

Rangers looking for offense
They were in on Duchene, but wouldn’t give up Brady Skjei

Boston looking to make moves on offense &/or defense

Wetbandit - your right with the " don't renew your season tickets" . That works for quite a few of the seats. If you have had season tickets since the aud (which I have not) it's really hard to part with awesome seats. Family seats for generations. Anyone in the corners or upper rows should turn them in. The inflation is disportionate to real life expenses.

Level III 300 . Went from 25 to 26 to 28, 29 now 30. That's 20% in 4 years
Level III 100 . Went from 50 to 52 to 55 to now 57. That's 15% in 3 years

Definitely makes you think twice, for sure. There is always the "what if they are good" and playoff rights too
- Boss34

I understand that it sucks for people, but let's be honest, they're a business and no business will voluntarily lower prices for a product that has no trouble selling.

People call in and say "I've been a season ticket holder for 10 years..." and expect some sort of special treatment. Businesses don't give a poop about your loyalty. If you don't buy it someone else will. The only thing they care about is if that seat is sold.

And that's exactly how they get you. The "what about when they're good?" argument. So it comes down to if you'd rather throw money away for years, or not have tickets for 2 or 3 years. It's like someone complaining that their Escalade costs $90K.

Also per McKenzie...

Rangers looking for offense
They were in on Duchene, but wouldn’t give up Brady Skjei

Boston looking to make moves on offense &/or defense
- jdfitz77

and that's who i want for kane ...

so next

and that's who i want for kane ...

so next
- gerbe75pts

Apparently Skjei is untouchable in NY

Looking at Last year’s deadline...
teams don’t trade their top prospects,
not for rentals

So it doesn’t seem likely we are gonna get a good young defenseman for Kane if we move him
MAYBE from Anaheim, but just bc they’re loaded at that position

Stumped, please help:

Mittelstadt looks great. Not arguing, but I just looked at the following stat and got slightly concerned that we're overhyping him:

Rookie Season Starts:
Mittelstadt 3G, 6A, 9GP
Eichel 7G, 9A, 9GP

Is that just Eichel being a God?
- RhinoFan

he's most likely going to win the Hobey Baker keller started off slow then later on he just showed everyone he was ready for the NHL


He will end up with around 80pts by the year is over with imo

he's most likely going to win the Hobey Baker keller started off slow then later on he just showed everyone he was ready for the NHL


He will end up with around 80pts by the year is over with imo
- gerbe75pts

You realize Jack "only" had 71 points right?

And Keller only had 45.

You realize Jack "only" had 71 points right?

And Keller only had 45.
- Wetbandit1

Yes so that means he's not going to get 80pts ? Johnny hockey got 80 and he's not jack

Stumped, please help:

Mittelstadt looks great. Not arguing, but I just looked at the following stat and got slightly concerned that we're overhyping him:

Rookie Season Starts:
Mittelstadt 3G, 6A, 9GP
Eichel 7G, 9A, 9GP

Is that just Eichel being a God?
- RhinoFan

Were u expecting Mittelstadt to be Eichel?
Mittelstadt might not even be 1 and done in College
And if he is...
he’s probably gonna be in Rochester next year, not Buffalo
It’s not a secret that they wanna develop guys more slowly...
even if they have the talent to be here

Yes so that means he's not going to get 80pts ? Johnny hockey got 80 and he's not jack
- gerbe75pts

In his junior year, in his freshman year he was a point per game 44 points.

Jack scored 71 points in 40 games in his freshman year

Were u expecting Mittelstadt to be Eichel?
Mittelstadt might not even be 1 and done in College
And if he is...
he’s probably gonna be in Rochester next year, not Buffalo
It’s not a secret that they wanna develop guys more slowly...
even if they have the talent to be here
- jdfitz77

I’d be shocked if Middlestadt isn’t 1 and done