I wonder what a trade for Kane would look like, Guddy+Sven for kane+2nd.

Or a 3way

But gets Demers
Flag gets Guddy
Van gets kane

If true...impressive
- LordHumungous

Before wife one left... then i married my rebound


My son was the good that came from marriage 2, that memory was the good from wife 1.

Learnt my lesson though.

Just finished the OHL vs Russia game. I am really glad that JB picked Lind over Hague. Hague got beat wide a few times. Looked like the not good version of Gudbranson out there.
- manvanfan

Told ya

Told ya
- Nucker101

Told me what?

I wonder what a trade for Kane would look like, Guddy+Sven for kane+2nd.

Or a 3way

But gets Demers
Flag gets Guddy
Van gets kane
- Retinalz

Arizona has demers now. Buf needs d bad though

Told me what?
- manvanfan

I don't know

Arizona has demers now. Buf needs d bad though
- Codes1087

Murray really (frank)ed that team/rebuild up

Arizona has demers now. Buf needs d bad though
- Codes1087

Edler for?

It's rather funny listening to some fans almost in a state of panic last night

It's like people actually thought we were a contender and are in shock we got outplayed last night.

Why are everyones expectations so damn high suddenly when this team had zero expectations coming into the season.

Edler for?
- LordHumungous

Reinhart

Reinhart
- Pres.cup

He is very quietly doing good on a bad buffalo team.

For Donny

If this breaks CoC than i apologize in advance.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...-debate-once-and-for-all/

Reinhart
- Pres.cup

Done

Done
- Nucker101

vegas says thanks

Reinhart
- Pres.cup

Would Reinhart fly in here or would it be panic mode?

For Donny

If this breaks CoC than i apologize in advance.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...-debate-once-and-for-all/
- Codes1087

oh

vegas says thanks
- Tumbleweed

Would Reinhart fly in here or would it be panic mode?
- LordHumungous

I think it would be a move for the future. Have to think what this team looks like without vanek, sedins, burmi, gudbranson next year. My god it makes me happy to think of this

oh
- Nucker101

Seeing eye tests and fancy stat material

Seeing eye tests and fancy stat material
- Codes1087

Alright, I'll do this before anyone else does


But they only picked out the bad parts of the eye test? I can do that with any player and make him look like poop.

Alright, I'll do this before anyone else does


But they only picked out the bad parts of the eye test? I can do that with any player and make him look like poop.
- Nucker101

Im open for this discussion. What are the positive eye tests that gudbranson passes. And of those, where does he exceed past the average shutdown defender?

Im open for this discussion. What are the positive eye tests that gudbranson passes. And of those, where does he exceed past the average shutdown defender?
- Codes1087

You already have me beat, I just think he's an average defensive dman, not a shutdown guy because you can't trust him against faster forwards with skill in today's game.

You already have me beat, I just think he's an average defensive dman, not a shutdown guy because you can't trust him against faster forwards with skill in today's game.
- Nucker101

I dont like what gudbranson brings, but i can understand and appreciate why a GM would want him. Having said that, gudbranson thinks hes a top 4 d on any team in this league and he really isnt. My issue is gudbranson will want top 4 money and wont deserve it. I would rather trade and fill with a more reliable and cheaper alternative. Pouliout is already leaps and bounds ahead of him imo

Alright, I'll do this before anyone else does


But they only picked out the bad parts of the eye test? I can do that with any player and make him look like poop.
- Nucker101

I liked this quote from the CA article. a lot in it, might sum up the eye test for many in the analytical community.

But guys who crash and bang? Who get into a fight? Who throw themselves in front of harm’s way with abandon? They are memorable. So at the bottom end of the roster the way to survive isn’t necessarily to be useful, it’s be noticeable.

some truth to it. but if you are on a shtty team without anyone crashing and banging or standing up for teammates, and still losing and getting pushed around, that will be noticeable too.

maybe I'm a bit old school when it comes to what I like in hockey. I like the hitting and physical play. yet I hate seeing guys get concussions. the heart guys are often what gives a team confidence.

when we haven't had those heart guys in the lineup and played teams from Cali, we never had a chance.

I dont like what gudbranson brings, but i can understand and appreciate why a GM would want him. Having said that, gudbranson thinks hes a top 4 d on any team in this league and he really isnt. My issue is gudbranson will want top 4 money and wont deserve it. I would rather trade and fill with a more reliable and cheaper alternative. Pouliout is already leaps and bounds ahead of him imo
- Codes1087

Yeah, I actually like Gudbranson, but just not as a top 4 dman. To me he'd be a nice #5 dman to have that can play top 4 mins in short spurts when injuries occur or if the whistles get put away randomly(seems to be happening less and less, the West style of hockey is turning into more of a speed/skill game now too).


Even Don isn't willing to give him a hefty raise on his current salary and he's one of his bigger fans on this site. Paying Gudbranson top 4 dman money is a mistake, the highest I'd pay for a guy like him is around 3M-ish he's making now.

And Benning had this quote during the pre-season, another possible clue that Gudbranson could get traded during this season:



(click on it to zoom in)