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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 14 @ 12:56 AM ET
ducks, islanders, kings and devils are still banging the drum to get Kan
- homiedclown


Still hope we can work something out with him...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 14 @ 1:02 AM ET
Still hope we can work something out with him...
- gordong

I heard the offers are really really good though


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:10 AM ET
ducks, islanders, kings and devils are still banging the drum to get Kan
- homiedclown


Anaheim has a whole bunch of defensemen I’d assume we like

If we are getting Larsson,
then hopefully we can get a 1st from them also
If it’s Vatanen,
not sure what else (if anything) we can get them to add

I want Larsson though...
-responsible in his own end
-good passer & skater
-offensive upside
-plays aggressive
*from scouting reports I’ve read, haven’t seen him play much
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:11 AM ET
I heard the offers are really really good though



- homiedclown



Think they going to move him then? Let’s face it the defense is a complete mess....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 14 @ 1:13 AM ET
Anaheim has a whole bunch of defensemen I’d assume we like

If we are getting Larsson,
then hopefully we can get a 1st from them also
If it’s Vatanen,
not sure what else (if anything) we can get them to add

I want Larsson though...
-responsible in his own end
-good passer & skater
-offensive upside
-plays aggressive
*from scouting reports I’ve read, haven’t seen him play much

- jdfitz77

spectors thinks its Vatanen and Larsson is not on the trade block


after saying that, if Kane stays hot the price goes up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 14 @ 1:14 AM ET
Think they going to move him then? Let’s face it the defense is a complete mess....
- gordong

I put the odds at 70% traded, 50% he gets traded before the winter freeze
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:14 AM ET
I heard the offers are really really good though



- homiedclown



I’d like to keep Kane...
but I’d LOVE to get Larsson & a 1st,
and then we might even be able to get Kane back as a free agent

IF we can’t get Kane back...
we could potentially draft baby Tkachuck,
or look to sign JvR or Neal in UFA
And Bailey plays the same style as Kane, but we’ve gotta hope he can develop as a scorer

Larsson has a chance to be a “top pair” defenseman
Those are very hard to acquire
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:19 AM ET
spectors thinks its Vatanen and Larsson is not on the trade block

after saying that, if Kane stays hot the price goes up

- homiedclown


Bob McKenzie said that he’s hearing,
“Anaheim doesn’t want to trade Lindholm, Fowler, Manson or Montour... but they would make Vatanen and Larsson available”

I’m guessing Spector is assuming they’d rather part with Vatanen for Cap reasons

Heck...
do we add in Reinhart & get both?

Idk if I want Vatanen though?
I do like what I’ve seen (limited) and read about Larsson though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:21 AM ET
Trade Kane for Larsson +
Sign Carlson as a UFA

Scandella-Carlson
Larsson-Ristolainen
Guhle-McCabe/Antipin/Beaulieu

That’s a defense we could win with
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 14 @ 2:22 AM ET
Trade Kane for Larsson +
Sign Carlson as a UFA

Scandella-Carlson
Larsson-Ristolainen
Guhle-McCabe/Antipin/Beaulieu

That’s a defense we could win with

- jdfitz77



That would be a nice upgrade.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 14 @ 2:28 AM ET
That would be a nice upgrade.
- gordong


It would be better if we could keep Kane & trade Reinhart for Larsson

Trading Kane could help the defense,
but we are struggling to score & gonna trade the guy who gets the most goals

That’ll be tougher to replace than we think
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Nov 14 @ 7:00 AM ET
It would be better if we could keep Kane & trade Reinhart for Larsson

Trading Kane could help the defense,
but we are struggling to score & gonna trade the guy who gets the most goals

That’ll be tougher to replace than we think

- jdfitz77


I feel like we need to get a centerman back so that Sam can go back to the wing.

Has any time table been announced for Josefson, Bogosian, or anyone else that is out?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 14 @ 7:36 AM ET
Trade Kane for Larsson +
Sign Carlson as a UFA

Scandella-Carlson
Larsson-Ristolainen
Guhle-McCabe/Antipin/Beaulieu

That’s a defense we could win with

- jdfitz77


I would trade him before the deadline we seem to get screwed every time now with Chris Stewart ,Jamie mcginn
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Nov 14 @ 7:37 AM ET
I feel like we need to get a centerman back so that Sam can go back to the wing.

Has any time table been announced for Josefson, Bogosian, or anyone else that is out?

- thatsapickle


I would rather trade him do a switch with another player that's doing bad on another team my target would be Alex Galchenyuk
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:16 AM ET
I would rather trade him do a switch with another player that's doing bad on another team my target would be Alex Galchenyuk
- GERBE!!!75PTS



MTL is notoriously bad at trades, but I doubt they would do it.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Nov 14 @ 8:23 AM ET
spectors thinks its Vatanen and Larsson is not on the trade block


after saying that, if Kane stays hot the price goes up

- homiedclown



I like Vatanen's game.

he would add a dynamic on the PP that we have not had in quite some time.

His size isn't even an issue. He's quick enough to get out of tough situations.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 14 @ 9:26 AM ET
I would trade him before the deadline we seem to get screwed every time now with Chris Stewart ,Jamie mcginn
- GERBE!!!75PTS

history shows from the pens, they don't wait til the last hour on deadline day and in many cases make their moves well before that day


hopefully botts was part of that decision

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 14 @ 9:26 AM ET
I like Vatanen's game.

he would add a dynamic on the PP that we have not had in quite some time.

His size isn't even an issue. He's quick enough to get out of tough situations.

- thatsapickle

I think he would be a great mentor for antipin
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
history shows from the pens, they don't wait til the last hour on deadline day and in many cases make their moves well before that day


hopefully botts was part of that decision

- homiedclown


it makes sense, you get more value for your rental. More time to recover in the standings as well, or to separate yourself from the pack.
TerryPegula
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 12.02.2010

Nov 14 @ 9:43 AM ET
Man...looking at the roster of this team is disturbing. I can barely find a starting lineup.

Talented forwards:
Kane
Eichel
Pouliot(streaky)
O'Reilly(slow)
Okposo(slow)
Pomminville(old)

Forwards with potential:
Reinhart(fading fast)
Baptiste
E-Rod

Talented Defensemen:
Scandella
Ristolainen (maybe?)

Defensemen with potential:
Antipin
Beaulieu
McCabe

Everyone else is just spare parts that aren't working. I hate to sound like Mike Harrington, but I don't think this is coaching anymore. Your group of talent isn't up to snuff.

EDIT: I forgot the goalies because they're so forgettable.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 14 @ 10:00 AM ET
Man...looking at the roster of this team is disturbing. I can barely find a starting lineup.

Talented forwards:
Kane
Eichel
Pouliot(streaky)
O'Reilly(slow)
Okposo(slow)
Pomminville(old)

Forwards with potential:
Reinhart(fading fast)
Baptiste
E-Rod

Talented Defensemen:
Scandella
Ristolainen (maybe?)

Defensemen with potential:
Antipin
Beaulieu
McCabe

Everyone else is just spare parts that aren't working. I hate to sound like Mike Harrington, but I don't think this is coaching anymore. Your group of talent isn't up to snuff.

EDIT: I forgot the goalies because they're so forgettable.

- TerryPegula


Regardless of the scuttlebutt on here...Eichel is still in a category all to his own. Risto is talented as (frank). Otherwise I agree with this.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 14 @ 10:18 AM ET
bogo will save them
- homiedclown



I don't know what everyone is so worried about, our best player hasn't even played yet! That 4th A is irreplaceable
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Nov 14 @ 10:21 AM ET
Does anyone else feel like Jack is really fighting the puck lately?
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Nov 14 @ 10:25 AM ET
Saw this quote from Brian Burke on Spector's page. Thought it was pretty funny.

Brian Burke said he’s glad struggling Flames forward Sam Bennett plays in Calgary and not in Toronto, where he would face far more media scrutiny over his performance and future. “If he were in Toronto, they would have traded him 70 times, shot him six times, condemned his parents four times,”
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Nov 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
It would be better if we could keep Kane & trade Reinhart for Larsson

Trading Kane could help the defense,
but we are struggling to score & gonna trade the guy who gets the most goals

That’ll be tougher to replace than we think

- jdfitz77


I agree 100%... After Jack Kane is our best forward.
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