McDavid plays well, Edmonton wins games. McDavid plays poorly. Edmonton loses games.

Ryan O'Reilly plays poorly, Buffalo loses games. Ryan O'Reilly plays well. This team still loses games.

That is why McDavid is a difference maker and O'Reilly is not. That does not mean he isn't a good player.

That is how Championship caliber teams evaluate players and how I pray how Jason Botterill does.
- buffalofan19

O’Reilly playing well frees up Jack to play in more offensive situations where he can make a difference as well
That also needs to be figured in

Besides goalies,
most teams don’t even have 1 player who fits your guidelines

I'm always reasonable when it comes to Hockey. Peter Chiarelli is a hack. Good enough to sacrifice years of tanking and collecting assets for a quick fix and a playoff run, but little else.

Out: Taylor Hall, Justin Schultz, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Brandon Davidson 2016 1st ( Barzal)

In: Adam Larsson, Ryan Strome, Zack Porcino( who?) and a few losers no longer on the Oilers

Not exactly a recipe for success.
- Larsson_fan

He really is a terrible GM
Idk what Edmonton was thinking?

wuts the price for risto...?

O’Reilly playing well frees up Jack to play in more offensive situations where he can make a difference as well
That also needs to be figured in

Besides goalies,
most teams don’t even have 1 player who fits your guidelines
- jdfitz77

The championship teams do.

The championship teams do.
- buffalofan19

And a great deal more besides.

It absolutely baffles me how much u guys are underselling what O’Reilly doesn for our team
But i guess when u make comments like that, you’re only looking at the scoresheet

There’s a heck of a lot more to being a good player, and O’Reilly does most of those

Not saying he’s a superstar,
but ubguys aren’t giving him his due
Not even close
He’s extremely valuable & important to this team
- jdfitz77

We have 99 losses with him in the lineup

Just saying not a Difference Maker

If the Bills don’t go after Cousins with every resou4ce available to them, they are friggin completely gonzo. He can put the ball where it needs to b3 for guys like Benjamin, Jones, Clay.
They can then use their picks to secure the bes5 available player in the draft for positions of need.

Edit: I hate the latest keyboard on IOS ....if you swipe a letter like when typing quickly, it changes to the alternate character...like numbers rather than the intended letter.
That’s m6 story and sticking to it.

And a great deal more besides.
- Der Kaiser

Including the Buffalo Sabres. They have one as well. And his name is not Ryan O'Reilly.

Including the Buffalo Sabres. They have one as well. And his name is not Ryan O'Reilly.
- buffalofan19

Beauliue!!!
Edit, for the opposition.

We have 99 losses with him in the lineup

Just saying not a Difference Maker
- GERBE!!!75PTS

That’s your criteria?
How many losses do we have with Jack in the lineup?

Including the Buffalo Sabres. They have one as well. And his name is not Ryan O'Reilly.
- buffalofan19

Apparently neither is Toews according to you

Apparently neither is Toews according to you
- jdfitz77

I have found myself questioning how much better he really did make them. He did score some timely goals early, but I think he just might be overvalued as well. It's a much easier pill to swallow, however, when you have 3 championships with him in your lineup.

He really is a terrible GM
Idk what Edmonton was thinking?
- jdfitz77

Beats me. It makes zero sense. He seems to want to reconstruct his Bruins type team + McDavid....you can still win that way but you never give up that much talent for ' truculence'.

Just typical ego driven bullpoop to put his stamp on the team. MacT may not have been great but he didn't have Connor McDavid or a further developed Leon Draisaitl/Oscar Klefbom either.

He basically did the same poop as GMTM only had a season of success so it flew under the radar.
Oilers fans are idiots anyways, impatient dildos who wanted to suck Chias wang before realizing he was a disaster GM in the long term.

End rant.

That’s your criteria?
How many losses do we have with Jack in the lineup?
- jdfitz77

Wins matter!

Aston Matthews, Difference Maker
Injured 11-08-2017
Leafs Record since injury, 5-0-0

Sabres Tanked 1 year too early, could have had Eichel / Laine versus Stink the Bustheart

Beats me. It makes zero sense. He seems to want to reconstruct his Bruins type team + McDavid....you can still win that way but you never give up that much talent for ' truculence'.

Just typical ego driven bullpoop to put his stamp on the team. MacT may not have been great but he didn't have Connor McDavid or a further developed Leon Draisaitl/Oscar Klefbom either.

He basically did the same poop as GMTM only had a season of success so it flew under the radar.
Oilers fans are idiots anyways, impatient dildos who wanted to suck Chias wang before realizing he was a disaster GM in the long term.

End rant.
- Larsson_fan

It’s one thing to want to construct a team a particular way
But I agree with you in that his mistakes are trading away talent & not getting enough back

Is he still looking to trade RNH?
That would be another mistake
I’d certainly take him here
Underrated player imo

It’s one thing to want to construct a team a particular way
But I agree with you in that his mistakes are trading away talent & not getting enough back

Is he still looking to trade RNH?
That would be another mistake
I’d certainly take him here
Underrated player imo
- jdfitz77

I don't think he will because RNH is looking like he found his niche as a Patrice Bergeron type player, and that gives Chia a Boston Boner .

Wins matter!

Aston Matthews, Difference Maker
Injured 11-08-2017
Leafs Record since injury, 5-0-0
- IonSabres

Aston?

Including the Buffalo Sabres. They have one as well. And his name is not Ryan O'Reilly.
- buffalofan19

What was the Sabres win% with Eichel in and ROR out

What was the Sabres win % with ROR in and Eichel out.

That would give an accurate measure. I looked earlier, but couldn’t find it, and didn’t try very hard because it’s just a dumb issue.

Sabres Tanked 1 year too early, could have had Eichel / Laine versus Stink the Bustheart
- IonSabres

They should have, Leon , eichel ,Laine

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