I just dont like trading Kane when he is the guy showing up most nights
- homiedclown

To your point,
shouldn’t we want to KEEP our good players?

Idk... seems pretty obvious to me

Yes ROR can do no wrong lol please he's what -20 he supposed to be a defensive Guru and he's sucking right now

And I know it's not about points but he's not playing the two-way game he supposed to be playing don't give me that crap making almost the same as Stamkos and you want me to cool my Jets

Yes or no is he playing like his first year ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He’s playing to a 63 point season in a defensive role. And has Best FO % in the league - usually in our end.

Go to the beach - your “talents” are better utilized there.

People may not like trading Kane but he might get us a buttload before the deadline And a potential number one defenseman in the future

Ducks 1st , Larsson for Kane
Vegas 1st , Theodore for Kane

Tell me that doesn't make your mouth water
- GERBE!!!75PTS

IF we can get that for him...

Also...
Even if we can get that return,
we still have to replace Kane

And it’s already hard for us to score more than 1 goal in a game

To your point,
shouldn’t we want to KEEP our good players?

Idk... seems pretty obvious to me
- jdfitz77

You should want to keep your difference makers. They have one of those.

light another candle and release me

cut the kids in half

where'd you park the car?

i might as well

You should want to keep your difference makers. They have one of those.
- buffalofan19

Nah - we have more individuals who are difference makers, but it’s too heavy a lift to ask 3 to carry 17.

You should want to keep your difference makers. They have one of those.
- buffalofan19

We have 3 of those

Kane is a difference maker
So is Jack
And yes (Gerbe), so is O’Reilly

Not all “difference makers” look like McDavid or Karlsson

He’s playing to a 63 point season in a defensive role. And has Best FO % in the league - usually in our end.

Go to the beach - your “talents” are better utilized there.
- Der Kaiser

Go compare salaries and tell me if you're happy with his production and play but he gets his pass from you

IF we can get that for him...

Also...
Even if we can get that return,
we still have to replace Kane

And it’s already hard for us to score more than 1 goal in a game
- jdfitz77

That's why you draft TK

Sign John Carlson,and get Theodore

Nah - we have more individuals who are difference makers, but it’s too heavy a lift to ask 3 to carry 17.
- Der Kaiser

Bogosian is strong, all we need is that 4th leader!

We have 3 of those

Kane is a difference maker
So is Jack
And yes (Gerbe), so is O’Reilly

Not all “difference makers” look like McDavid or Karlsson
- jdfitz77

ROR is no Difference Maker imo

A difference-maker to me is someone that you worry about when he's on the injury report because you know he is that important to get a win

To me that's jack or kane

That's why you draft TK

Sign John Carlson,and get Theodore
- GERBE!!!75PTS

But Tkachuck might not be there where we draft
We won’t know that when we trade Kane

And I’d love us to get Carlson,
but it’s probably a long shot at best

Go compare salaries and tell me if you're happy with his production and play but he gets his pass from you
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Garry Bettman said the other day the NHL's gross income was 4-5 billion a year. The salary cap is going to go up, 7 mil a year today is not what 7 mil a year was yesterday. You worry about kale and let Bocco worry about the salary cap and how much the 3 horses get paid.

Go compare salaries and tell me if you're happy with his production and play but he gets his pass from you
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Compared to who Stamkos?
It’s apples & oranges to compare the 2 salaries

Stamkos took a MUCH LESS than market value to stay in Tampa
true or false?

But Tkachuck might not be there where we draft
We won’t know that when we trade Kane

And I’d love us to get Carlson,
but it’s probably a long shot at best
- jdfitz77

I'm pretty sure we're going to be in the top 3 and I have him ranked as the third best player that's if we lose the draft lottery and we're first overall

The only defenseman worth drafting is Dahlin he's a freak of nature he's like Erik Karlsson but I think he's going to be better ( the Connor McDavid of the defenseman )

But if we lose out I don't want to draft a defenseman you take the best forward

ROR is no Difference Maker imo

A difference-maker to me is someone that you worry about when he's on the injury report because you know he is that important to get a win

To me that's jack or kane
- GERBE!!!75PTS

And who would u say is going to EFFECTIVELY take face offs in our own end?

Or is it not important to actually WIN those?

Go compare salaries and tell me if you're happy with his production and play but he gets his pass from you
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He’s outplaying Toews, Bergeron and Kesler. His cap hit is lower than Toews - and slightly higher than the other two.

Not only does he get a pass from me, he gets a pat on the back.

Compared to who Stamkos?
It’s apples & oranges to compare the 2 salaries

Stamkos took a MUCH LESS than market value to stay in Tampa
true or false?
- jdfitz77

True but there's other celery sticks to compare to

We have 3 of those

Kane is a difference maker
So is Jack
And yes (Gerbe), so is O’Reilly

Not all “difference makers” look like McDavid or Karlsson
- jdfitz77

The majority of Kane's career still suggests he isn't. There are plenty of okay players that have really good years. They're not the norm, and they often come during contract years. I still want to see him outside of a contract year and without the "get your act together or your career will come to a quick end" ultimatum, which, make no mistake, still exists, and will until he gets his next contract, whoever that might be with.

You can make an argument for O'Reilly, but he is a non-factor far too often for the contract he has.

Garry Bettman said the other day the NHL's gross income was 4-5 billion a year. The salary cap is going to go up, 7 mil a year today is not what 7 mil a year was yesterday. You worry about kale and let Bocco worry about the salary cap and how much the 3 horses get paid.
- GilPerreault11

2 horses then after the deadline 1

I'm pretty sure we're going to be in the top 3 and I have him ranked as the third best player that's if we lose the draft lottery and we're first overall

The only defenseman worth drafting is Dahlin he's a freak of nature he's like Erik Karlsson but I think he's going to be better ( the Connor McDavid of the defenseman )

But if we lose out I don't want to draft a defenseman you take the best forward
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Ok... but we still won’t know where we are drafting at the time we trade Kane

We could finish 3rd & end up picking 6th
Look what happened last year

You’re assuming we can replace Kane
I don’t think it’s a sure thing that we can
It’s VERY risky imo

we have 2 wins at home

very exciting

True but there's other celery sticks to compare to
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I guess
But u can play that game for 95% of the guys in the league

O’Reilly is worth every penny we pay him

Who’s taking Def Zone draws without him?
Jack?
Imagine how much that would limit his offense
He’s not ready for all that

He’s outplaying Toews, Bergeron and Kesler. His cap hit is lower than Toews - and slightly higher than the other two.

Not only does he get a pass from me, he gets a pat on the back.
- Der Kaiser

1) Kesler is not playing

2) Bergeron only played 14 games yet still the best two-way defensive forward in the game

3) if there was a trade for ROR and toews I would do that in a second and put the C on his chest

The funny thing of those three everyone would trade Ryan O'Reilly for

Ok... but we still won’t know where we are drafting at the time we trade Kane

We could finish 3rd & end up picking 6th
Look what happened last year

You’re assuming we can replace Kane
I don’t think it’s a sure thing that we can
It’s VERY risky imo
- jdfitz77

But we will still have a defenseman in our pocket with the trade

It's a risk but you could replace players like Kane as you said yourself finding a number one defenseman is very very hard