you dont like ROR on his deal?
- Sabresfan-365

i'm not offended by it, but it is a little high...ror will provide consistent numbers throughout the length, but it would be nice to get a little more out of him at that price-tag

Do you actually beleive that old adage? I always thought trades need to analyzed 3-5 years down the road.
- Larsson_fan

they're old adages for a reason...even clichés are based in truth

Please delete this post.
- Der Kaiser

okay, why this time?

Fairly important for a rebuild dont ya think?
- Larsson_fan

been pining for a vp of hockey ops for years...but i'm not the owner

i'm not offended by it, but it is a little high...ror will provide consistent numbers throughout the length, but it would be nice to get a little more out of him at that price-tag
- Michael Pachla

its hard to get true value out of him when hes being overworked. a competent defence means hes gotta do less of it. takes the pressure off a bit, little more offence with the two draft picks coming up.

thx...a little bird told me that they might be looking to move okposo...if they can do that, I think they sign kane
- Michael Pachla

Where you think and for what would Botterill want? ..and who could afford the length of that contract ..in your opinion

Team is trash

Time to rebuild

its hard to get true value out of him when hes being overworked. a competent defence means hes gotta do less of it. takes the pressure off a bit, little more offence with the two draft picks coming up.
- Sabresfan-365

good points...I happen to like ror, and in a few years, his aav will probably be right in line with what he brings

Where you think and for what would Botterill want? ..and who could afford the length of that contract ..in your opinion
- MR.Hunter

not sure right now...haven't given it much thought

okay, why this time?
- Sabresfan-365

He's one of those people

been pining for a vp of hockey ops for years...but i'm not the owner
- Michael Pachla

The fact that it took so long for the Leafs to figure this out - even with decades of historical failure, boggles the mind. Leafs got lucky. Fortunate timing (and tons of cash) created this current management team. Why it wasn't a priority in the past (money?) is frustrating as a fan.

not sure right now...haven't given it much thought
- Michael Pachla

Arizona or Carolina? ...oposo for McKeown and a 3rd year!

okay, why this time?
- Sabresfan-365

The last thread had disagreements as to whether or not the win column should be a factor when considering whether or not one should be considered a "difference maker" or not.

The fact that it took so long for the Leafs to figure this out - even with decades of historical failure, boggles the mind. Leafs got lucky. Fortunate timing (and tons of cash) created this current management team. Why it wasn't a priority in the past (money?) is frustrating as a fan.
- Woderwick

good points...often wondered that myself and was very happy that they didn't do the right thing earlier

The last thread had disagreements as to whether or not the win column should be a factor when considering whether or not one should be considered a "difference maker" or not.
- buffalofan19

oh i see...

Arizona or Carolina? ...oposo for McKeown and a 3rd year!
- MR.Hunter

if they can move him with minimal salary coming back, i'd have to think they'd do it in a heartbeat...and I happen to like okposo despite his dismal start to this season

good points...I happen to like ror, and in a few years, his aav will probably be right in line with what he brings
- Michael Pachla

we've seen these guys enough to see them at their best and worst. In that time i feel like 3 guys can be part of the core moving forward under their current deals. Jack, ror and risto.

good points...often wondered that myself and was very happy that they didn't do the right thing earlier
- Michael Pachla

we've seen these guys enough to see them at their best and worst. In that time i feel like 3 guys can be part of the core moving forward under their current deals. Jack, ror and risto.
- Sabresfan-365

agreed...if you can see it, and I can see it, i'm pretty sure botts can see it as well

Stealth Tank

if they can move him with minimal salary coming back, i'd have to think they'd do it in a heartbeat...and I happen to like okposo despite his dismal start to this season
- Michael Pachla

I agree

agreed...if you can see it, and I can see it, i'm pretty sure botts can see it as well
- Michael Pachla

Full confidence in him

time will tell on that one...the old adage is "whoever gets the best player wins the trade"

kane is surely the best player of all those moved...at least right now
- Michael Pachla

If Kane plays 0 playoff games for the Sabres, and is moved or walks it’s an awful use of those assets

Team is trash

Time to rebuild
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Yeah let’s panic when we have played 11 different defensemen. We don’t need to rebuild we are still building....we’ve got three hopefully impactful players in the system, that are one or two years away. We should be able to add another one in this draft.

Guess nobody learns from Murray..... THERE IS NO QUICK FIX.

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