the team is in 30th place, 1 point out of last place in year 3

they have gotten worse each year instead of better


every player needs to be looked under a microscope given that

nobody gets a pass
- homiedclown

They have 4 less points than Syd & Geno!!!
ROR & Jack are NOT playing poorly
You’re overreacting

Fine, my apologies

Why is it that ppl have to constantly overreact?

Jack & ROR have FOUR LESS POINTS than Crosby & Malkin...
but it’s their fault we are in 30th

That just doesn’t make any damn sense
- jdfitz77

Well, because they feel as strongly about their position as yours...I over react, you over react. It happens.

The eye test says to me that Jack and ROR can play better. You have seen my rants on Jack, if he played at all like Travares played on that video Jack would be the absolute b est player in the world...he has it in him skill wise, he obviously can’t stand losing...he now needs to put it together and simply dominate, refuse to lose each shift, dominate each shift...that is what a generational player does...to date he has been a generational talent. ... I keep saying h3 needs to be coached up big time...especially away from the puck.

Having X number of points is great, but it is literally 2/3rds of my very high expectation for him, so no he isn’t playing welll...to the point all the media has written it/voiced it...and his own coach put him on the 3rd line (oh yes, they don’t number their lines except the 1st).
Generational players lead, and make others around him better, not expect another player to help carry them.

Btw-YES, the 3rd & 4th lines absolutely suck, they do, period.

It isn’t either or IMO...it is both

Well, because they feel as strongly about their position as yours...I over react, you over react. It happens.

The eye test says to me that Jack and ROR can play better. You have seen my rants on Jack, if he played at all like Travares played on that video Jack would be the absolute b est player in the world...he has it in him skill wise, he obviously can’t stand losing...he now needs to put it together and simply dominate, refuse to lose each shift, dominate each shift...that is what a generational player does...to date he has been a generational talent. ... I keep saying h3 needs to be coached up big time...especially away from the puck.

Having X number of points is great, but it is literally 2/3rds of my very high expectation for him, so no he isn’t playing welll...to the point all the media has written it/voiced it...and his own coach put him on the 3rd line (oh yes, they don’t number their lines except the 1st).
Generational players lead, and make others around him better, not expect another player to help carry them.

Btw-YES, the 3rd & 4th lines absolutely suck, they do, period.

It isn’t either or IMO...it is both
- IonSabres

I also said that Jack & O’Reilly can be playing better
I’m not “giving them a pass” like Homie thinks

It’s just that we have other issues that are killing this team WAY more than the play of those 2
They might not be playing great,
but they’re doing well

Jack is NOT Tavares
ROR is NOT Malkin

People can either accept that...
or continue to b!tch

They are who they are
If we want the Sabres to be good,
we need to put better talent around them

They have 4 less points than Syd & Geno!!!
ROR & Jack are NOT playing poorly
You’re overreacting
- jdfitz77

Jack has been fine. He’s 21 for god sakes, he’s goign to slump.

O’Reilly is not playing well. He did very little last night, and was invisible until the 3rd against Columbus.

He’s supposed to be this great leader. Yet this team is consistently unprepared to play. Hes flat out over rated

I also said that Jack & O’Reilly can be playing better
I’m not “giving them a pass” like Homie thinks

It’s just that we have other issues that are killing this team more than the play of those 2
They might not be playing great,
but they’re doing well

Jack is NOT Tavares
ROR is NOT Malkin

People can either accept that...
or continue to b!tch

They are who they are
If we want the Sabres to be good,
we need to put better talent around them
- jdfitz77

If we tanked for 2-1/2 years for Jack as he currently is playing, we failed miserably, period.
Until he realizes that, especially next year when he’s being paid to be better than Tavares, this team is simply crippled, again period.
As a 2nd, 3rd or 4th liner...why would you sell out when your leader isn’t.

To those who much is given, much is expected.
To those who are given an exceptional amount, an exceptional performance is expected.
Like or don’t, fact.

I have been on a 2 month rant about Accountability on the Sabres, or more so the lack of it ...maybe our 4th line grinder brings the leadership craved by this rudderless shipwrecked collection of players ...

From BN article this am:
“I think we've got to start holding guys accountable. Start being honest with ourselves and our teammates," ...”When we're turning pucks over and not working hard, it kinda (gets) swept under the rug and we've got to, if someone does turn it over, if they don't chip it in at the red line or blue line, we've got to say something.”

Finally.
- IonSabres

I've been banging the Nolan drum all season. I love what he brings to the team in his ROLE.

Still standing by him scoring around 10g's and becoming a fan favorite this season. Looks like he's on his way.

omg can we ban jdfitz for a few days and let him calm down? Jesus Christ man.

Today,
I’m THANKFUL for my POSITIVITY

Yes, I realize it’s not easy
Especially for those who’ve been suffering with these sports teams even longer than myself

BUT

If we win the lotto & get Dahlin,
then I believe we’re a playoff team next year

Kane-Eichel-Reinhart
Pouliot-O’Reilly-Okposo
Nylander-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Girgensons-Larsson-Bailey/Baptiste
Rodrigues
Moulson- (trade)
*finally a 3rd line that can score!

Dahlin-Ristolainen
McCabe-Scandella
Guhle-Beaulieu/Antipin
Bogosian- (hopefully trade)
*adding Dahlin & Guhle should help A LOT

Lehner
-Ullmark
*I’d look to trade for someone like Grubauer & move on from Lehner

Yeah...
an improved defense & a 3rd line that can score should be enough to get us in the playoffs

And if we trade Moulson (shouldn’t be tough) and Bogosian (probably have to add a pick, but it’s possible)...
(I’d also say to try & move Okposo, but idk if that’s realistic?)
then we’d have Cap Room to go after a UFA or two, like:
-Tavares
-JvR or Neal
-Carlson

Can we get any of those guys?
Probably not
But if we did...
then we are talking about a team that can maybe do some damage in the playoffs
(especially if it’s Tavares)
- jdfitz77

Fitzzzy, I like the optimism,we suck. Pouliot and okposo on any teams second line,you suck.mittlesat is ten years old,he isn't ready. Please people Johan larsson sucks. Zemgus girgensons was a product of ted nolans no system of hockey.ryan oreilly is a 4.5 million a year player and a third center on a great team. Fitzy quote me,Kyle okposo is another matt moulson contract,we are screwed.fitzy nylander has played 3 games and is a minus 6 in the AHL. Rodrigues is a minus 5, we overvalue our junk.

No, Moulson will NOT be hard to trade
His actual salary is only 2mil next year, so he’s attractive to a team needing to make the Cap floor
Even if they send him to the minors, he still would count for over 4mil against their Cap
But I guess you didn’t know all that
Maybe u should be a little more KNOWLEDGABLE if you’re gonna criticize so harshly

I literally wrote I wanted to TRADE for a guy like Grubauer (he’s a goalie, duh),
but I guess u need to work on your READING SKILLS

We actually have PLENTY OF CAP ROOM
And moving Moulson & hopefully Bogosian would bring even more
Plus,
the Cap is projected to go up 5-7mil
And I’m not saying we will actually sign Tavares, just that we’d have the $$$ to try... which we will have, if u actually put in time/effort to investigate it
But I guess it’s easier to be IGNORANT

I’m seriously wondering if u have any in-depth knowledge of our situation at all
Sure doesn’t seem like it

Larsson & Girgensons are on my projected 4th line. They played pretty decent as 3rd liners for us last year with Gionta, at least defensively. In a role on the 4th, they are not just fine but could actually even be good
Although I guess u don’t realize that players look a lot better when they are put in the correct roles to fit their talent
They also can eventually be replaced but guys like Rodrigues, Asplund, Cj Smith, Baptiste, etc...

Having too much turnover in 1 season would do more damage than good
My projected lineup has 2 new forwards in the top9, and 2 new Defensemen playing nightly, plus I’m TRYING to acquire a new goalie & bringing up Ullmark as a new backup
Since Guhle would be in my projected 5th defenseman spot until he’s ready to move up to the 2nd pair...
that has me with 5/15 new players in our most important spots
That 33%
Which is significant

That doesn’t even include if we actually can sign a guy like Tavares, JvR or Carlson
Likely? No, probably not
But we WILL HAVE ROOM to possibly do so

In conclusion...
yes, a 3rd line that actually scores & improved talent on defense & hopefully in net will make a major difference for this team

If u knew anything about hockey,
then you’d realize that

Way to be a d!ck though
Happy Thanksgiving
- jdfitz77

why would 0 points ever be attractive to any team? if they want to get to the floor they can go get actual production through free agency

I also said that Jack & O’Reilly can be playing better
I’m not “giving them a pass” like Homie thinks

It’s just that we have other issues that are killing this team WAY more than the play of those 2
They might not be playing great,
but they’re doing well

Jack is NOT Tavares
ROR is NOT Malkin

People can either accept that...
or continue to b!tch

They are who they are
If we want the Sabres to be good,
we need to put better talent around them
- jdfitz77

Tavares Is not coming here,I would trade oreilly as soon as you can. No one would want him at 7.5 mill

If we tanked for 2-1/2 years for Jack as he currently is playing, we failed miserably, period.
Until he realizes that, especially next year when he’s being paid to be better than Tavares, this team is simply crippled, again period.
As a 2nd, 3rd or 4th liner...why would you sell out when your leader isn’t.

To those who much is given, much is expected.
To those who are given an exceptional amount, an exceptional performance is expected.
Like or don’t, fact.
- IonSabres

Third in the league in primary points. All coming on the worst team in the league. he's doing his job. It's just not the buffalo try hard way so everyone there is offended

Jack has been fine. He’s 21 for god sakes, he’s goign to slump.

O’Reilly is not playing well. He did very little last night, and was invisible until the 3rd against Columbus.

He’s supposed to be this great leader. Yet this team is consistently unprepared to play. Hes flat out over rated
- sbroads24

Tough to lead when the team has scored a total of 5 GOALS outside of the top6

We need to get rid of the dead weight
Bring in our young talent
And put guys in their proper roles

Jack has been fine. He’s 21 for god sakes, he’s goign to slump.

O’Reilly is not playing well. He did very little last night, and was invisible until the 3rd against Columbus.

He’s supposed to be this great leader. Yet this team is consistently unprepared to play. Hes flat out over rated
- sbroads24

I expect more from our generational talent.

McDavid. 22GP. 10 - 18 - 28
Matthews. 19GP. 12 - 9 - 21
Eichel. 22GP. 6 - 12 - 18
Tavares 21GP. 15. - 10 - 25
Kutnetsov. 23GP. 6. - 20 - 26
MacKinnon. 20GP. 7. - 18. - 25
Monahan 21GP. 12 - 10. - 22

Third in the league in primary points. All coming on the worst team in the league. he's doing his job. It's just not the buffalo try hard way so everyone there is offended
- Sabresfan-365

No, in fact it is Buffalo fan glorifying an underperforming Star again.

If we tanked for 2-1/2 years for Jack as he currently is playing, we failed miserably, period.
Until he realizes that, especially next year when he’s being paid to be better than Tavares, this team is simply crippled, again period.
As a 2nd, 3rd or 4th liner...why would you sell out when your leader isn’t.

To those who much is given, much is expected.
To those who are given an exceptional amount, an exceptional performance is expected.
Like or don’t, fact.
- IonSabres

I guess

Jack & ROR can & will need to play better
I don’t disagree

We also need to get them MUCH more help

No, in fact it is Buffalo fan glorifying an underperforming Star again.
- IonSabres

im not the one who called him a generational talent. I said hes playing fine. not above or below what i would expect from a guy stuck on literally the leagues worst team.

Also, still on his rookie deal so if you're holding him against those expectations may want to wait till his actual contract kicks in.

Fitzzzy, I like the optimism,we suck. Pouliot and okposo on any teams second line,you suck.mittlesat is ten years old,he isn't ready. Please people Johan larsson sucks. Zemgus girgensons was a product of ted nolans no system of hockey.ryan oreilly is a 4.5 million a year player and a third center on a great team. Fitzy quote me,Kyle okposo is another matt moulson contract,we are screwed.fitzy nylander has played 3 games and is a minus 6 in the AHL. Rodrigues is a minus 5, we overvalue our junk.
- Buffalo39

I think you’re “undervaluing” though
It’s not ALL “junk”

They have 4 less points than Syd & Geno!!!
ROR & Jack are NOT playing poorly
You’re overreacting
- jdfitz77

syd and geno have won cups, they get a pass

ror and eichel have regressed to 1 point out of last in the nhl


logic says you build from the dot


we are in 30th place and getting worse by the day

why would 0 points ever be attractive to any team? if they want to get to the floor they can go get actual production through free agency
- Sabresfan-365

Fair enough
“Attractive” was the wrong word
And obviously we are sending a pick with him

Didn’t mean to make it sound like we were getting a good return for Moulson

I expect more from our generational talent.

McDavid. 22GP. 10 - 18 - 28
Matthews. 19GP. 12 - 9 - 21
Eichel. 22GP. 6 - 12 - 18
Tavares 21GP. 15. - 10 - 25
Kutnetsov. 23GP. 6. - 20 - 26
MacKinnon. 20GP. 7. - 18. - 25
Monahan 21GP. 12 - 10. - 22
- IonSabres

wait til eichel losses kane

Fair enough
“Attractive” was the wrong word
And obviously we are sending a pick with him

Didn’t mean to make it sound like we were getting a good return for Moulson
- jdfitz77

I miss the lockout

syd and geno have won cups, they get a pass

ror and eichel have regressed to 1 point out of last in the nhl


logic says you build from the dot


we are in 30th place and getting worse by the day
- homiedclown

logic also says if the other 18 skaters are filled with overpaid dead weight it might not matter much.

Even stepping back and not looking at the analytics, just watching. I dont look at these losses and say if only ROR and Jack were super human. Most of the times Im just like "if only we had a d-man who could perform a stick check" or "if only our bottom 6 could actually generate something resembling meaningful offence"

Tough to lead when the team has scored a total of 5 GOALS outside of the top6

We need to get rid of the dead weight
Bring in our young talent
And put guys in their proper roles
- jdfitz77

Gentleman,the culture is horrible. Gionta blah blah blah.kyle Williams leader blah blah. We were the worst in both leagues with and we will be without. We need complete overhaul of sabres. Can you trust Kane with new contract? Iffffff you can
Eichel. Kane are the only current forwards i would keep. The problem is NO ONE is taking okposo,moulson,oreilly,bogosian salaries. I believe you trade reinhart,nylander oreilly and start rebuild. Reinhart and nylander are going to turn out like all our other junk,soft, lazy and not competitive. My team would be built around kane eichel,risto and guhle and mittlestat, maybe cliff pu when they both come out. All the other stuff they suck.

omg can we ban jdfitz for a few days and let him calm down? Jesus Christ man.
- BeadyEyedDouche

You’re the one who went Psycho bc I only thought Nolan was “ok” instead of “great”

Fair enough
“Attractive” was the wrong word
And obviously we are sending a pick with him

Didn’t mean to make it sound like we were getting a good return for Moulson
- jdfitz77

Even with the bonus being paid and sending an okay pick I can't see anyone touching it. Not unless we took something back. Safer play may just be to buy him out.