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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
the queen of the nothing burger trumps all
- homiedclown


Maury Povitch could get to the bottom of it.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
Maury Povitch could get to the bottom of it.
- Der Kaiser

you killed it. congrats.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
He has the best denials, denials like which we've never seen before.
- jochfr

Bigly denials.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Nov 24 @ 4:24 PM ET


Hat trick tonight biotches
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 5:10 PM ET
From the Oilers blogger

3) Eichel Pile On. So Jack Eichel is getting dragged by his local media in a way that feels very similar for Oiler fans who remember Taylor Hall somehow being the problem on a team that is completely awful. One of the ways in which he’s getting trashed by the out-moded media is in plus/minus. Eichel is a brutal -8 on the year. As Jonathan Willis of Sportsnet points out though, that’s hot trash. Eichel is actually only -1 in 5v5 goal differential. The extremely flawed +/- stat counts shorties against and goals scored with the net empty against you. Bad teams that find themselves down late in games get even worse in this measure because they are the ones pulling their goalies. The truth is that Jack Eichel is the only Sabre player with a positive goal differential at all. He is +1 in all situations. Kane is 0 (even). Everyone else is negative. Eichel is without a doubt the best thing going for that organization.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 5:14 PM ET
From the Oilers blogger

3) Eichel Pile On. So Jack Eichel is getting dragged by his local media in a way that feels very similar for Oiler fans who remember Taylor Hall somehow being the problem on a team that is completely awful. One of the ways in which he’s getting trashed by the out-moded media is in plus/minus. Eichel is a brutal -8 on the year. As Jonathan Willis of Sportsnet points out though, that’s hot trash. Eichel is actually only -1 in 5v5 goal differential. The extremely flawed +/- stat counts shorties against and goals scored with the net empty against you. Bad teams that find themselves down late in games get even worse in this measure because they are the ones pulling their goalies. The truth is that Jack Eichel is the only Sabre player with a positive goal differential at all. He is +1 in all situations. Kane is 0 (even). Everyone else is negative. Eichel is without a doubt the best thing going for that organization.

- sbroads24


While all this is true, part of the problem is that he's having an ordinary year on a sub-par team right after he signed a mega-deal. He still is the best thing going for this team, but his disappearance (for lack of a better term) right after hitting paydirt is simply not a good look.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 24 @ 5:15 PM ET
From the Oilers blogger

3) Eichel Pile On. So Jack Eichel is getting dragged by his local media in a way that feels very similar for Oiler fans who remember Taylor Hall somehow being the problem on a team that is completely awful. One of the ways in which he’s getting trashed by the out-moded media is in plus/minus. Eichel is a brutal -8 on the year. As Jonathan Willis of Sportsnet points out though, that’s hot trash. Eichel is actually only -1 in 5v5 goal differential. The extremely flawed +/- stat counts shorties against and goals scored with the net empty against you. Bad teams that find themselves down late in games get even worse in this measure because they are the ones pulling their goalies. The truth is that Jack Eichel is the only Sabre player with a positive goal differential at all. He is +1 in all situations. Kane is 0 (even). Everyone else is negative. Eichel is without a doubt the best thing going for that organization.

- sbroads24


Is anybody saying this is NOT so??
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 24 @ 5:18 PM ET
From the Oilers blogger

3) Eichel Pile On. So Jack Eichel is getting dragged by his local media in a way that feels very similar for Oiler fans who remember Taylor Hall somehow being the problem on a team that is completely awful. One of the ways in which he’s getting trashed by the out-moded media is in plus/minus. Eichel is a brutal -8 on the year. As Jonathan Willis of Sportsnet points out though, that’s hot trash. Eichel is actually only -1 in 5v5 goal differential. The extremely flawed +/- stat counts shorties against and goals scored with the net empty against you. Bad teams that find themselves down late in games get even worse in this measure because they are the ones pulling their goalies. The truth is that Jack Eichel is the only Sabre player with a positive goal differential at all. He is +1 in all situations. Kane is 0 (even). Everyone else is negative. Eichel is without a doubt the best thing going for that organization.

- sbroads24


Yeah but he doesn't tie his shoes, slurps when drinks, even doesn't turn off the t.v. when leaving the room! He is 21 about to make 10 million dollars, why isnt he perfect!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Is anybody saying this is NOT so??
- Der Kaiser

Local media. It's right in the first sentence. Come on
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 5:30 PM ET
Yeah but he doesn't tie his shoes, slurps when drinks, even doesn't turn off the t.v. when leaving the room! He is 21 about to make 10 million dollars, why isnt he perfect!
- washedup20

PRICE is done
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:32 PM ET
From the Oilers blogger

3) Eichel Pile On. So Jack Eichel is getting dragged by his local media in a way that feels very similar for Oiler fans who remember Taylor Hall somehow being the problem on a team that is completely awful. One of the ways in which he’s getting trashed by the out-moded media is in plus/minus. Eichel is a brutal -8 on the year. As Jonathan Willis of Sportsnet points out though, that’s hot trash. Eichel is actually only -1 in 5v5 goal differential. The extremely flawed +/- stat counts shorties against and goals scored with the net empty against you. Bad teams that find themselves down late in games get even worse in this measure because they are the ones pulling their goalies. The truth is that Jack Eichel is the only Sabre player with a positive goal differential at all. He is +1 in all situations. Kane is 0 (even). Everyone else is negative. Eichel is without a doubt the best thing going for that organization.

- sbroads24

the ironic part, the -8 is clearly stemming from empty netters allowed when he is on the ice and short handed goals when he was on the ice


this stat means something, but really doesn't when you are a front man on a crappy team


+/- means much more for your 3rd and 4th liners
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 24 @ 5:35 PM ET
Local media. It's right in the first sentence. Come on
- sbroads24


Well - an Edmonton blogger saying Buffalo media is “dragging” Eichel is not really Buffalo media (or any one else) saying Jacks not the best thing we have going.

Only Homie does that. And Beady when his other bullpoop isn’t getting attention.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:36 PM ET
While all this is true, part of the problem is that he's having an ordinary year on a sub-par team right after he signed a mega-deal. He still is the best thing going for this team, but his disappearance (for lack of a better term) right after hitting paydirt is simply not a good look.
- buffalofan19

last year

eichel had 57 points in 61 games

this year 18 points in 22 games


difference stat wise is the number 30 pp unit vs number 1 last year

5 on 5, he is the same player, probably better than last year


someone should tell paul hamilton this

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 24 @ 5:39 PM ET
last year

eichel had 57 points in 61 games

this year 18 points in 22 games


difference stat wise is the number 30 pp unit vs number 1 last year

5 on 5, he is the same player, probably better than last year


someone should tell paul hamilton this

- homiedclown



He's going to end up at or near a point per game by the end of the year, if for no other reason than as this team continues to wallow near the bottom, more teams will strategically play their backup goaltenders against them. Eichel is a natural goal scorer, and will succeed against the lesser competition more often than not.

That said, there are a few players than can elevate a bad team to respectability. Granted he's young, and this season is still on its younger end, but in his first real chance to do this, he hasn't yet.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:39 PM ET

Only Homie does that.

- Der Kaiser

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
last year

eichel had 57 points in 61 games

this year 18 points in 22 games


difference stat wise is the number 30 pp unit vs number 1 last year

5 on 5, he is the same player, probably better than last year


someone should tell paul hamilton this

- homiedclown

He's also at a career low shooting % right now. Not by a ton, but it's low.

He will be fine.

He's literally the least of our concerns
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:40 PM ET
He's going to end up at or near a point per game by the end of the year, if for no other reason than as this team continues to wallow near the bottom, more teams will strategically play their backup goaltenders against them. Eichel is a natural goal scorer, and will succeed against the lesser competition more often than not.
- buffalofan19

agreed


my biggest issues with jack is he seems to extend his shifts 5 on 5, and clearly trying to do it all on pp
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:41 PM ET
He's also at a career low shooting % right now. Not by a ton, but it's low.

He will be fine.

He's literally the least of our concerns

- sbroads24

probably only true nonconcern in the organization


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 24 @ 5:41 PM ET
that was a big f you to geffen records
- homiedclown



New Neil

Plays with Lukus Nelson's band (Willie's kid) Promise of the Real who are very good.

https://www.npr.org/2017/...e-of-the-real-the-visitor
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
New Neil

Plays with Lukus Nelson's band (Willie's kid) Promise of the Real who are very good.

https://www.npr.org/2017/...e-of-the-real-the-visitor

- Canada Cup

I have heard nothing but good things


wish he would tour the SE in 2018 so I can see him 2 or 3 more times before he hangs it up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 5:48 PM ET
He's also at a career low shooting % right now. Not by a ton, but it's low.

He will be fine.

He's literally the least of our concerns

- sbroads24

http://www.quanthockey.co...18-nhl-players-stats.html

5 on 5 scoring is much better than last year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
well well well

look what former sabre is 28th in scoring in the KHL this season


http://www.quanthockey.co...18-khl-players-stats.html


17th in ppg
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Nov 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
well well well

look what former sabre is 28th in scoring in the KHL this season


http://www.quanthockey.co...18-khl-players-stats.html


17th in ppg

- homiedclown

Linus Omark
#8
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 24 @ 6:11 PM ET
PRICE is done
- sbroads24



Tomorrow
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 24 @ 6:15 PM ET
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/2017-18-nhl-players-stats.html

5 on 5 scoring is much better than last year

- homiedclown



Eichel isn't the problem

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