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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 28 @ 5:56 PM ET
I dunno, Risto's XGF has come along nicely and I bet Scandella's would look better on the 2nd pair.

We just don't have anyone that you could turn to and say "yeah he can shut down the other teams top line"

- Sabresfan-365

I'd like to see that stay this way over time though.

We literally have 0 goals from the blue line uin 24 games. We need an offensive D man incredibly bad right now
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Nov 28 @ 5:57 PM ET
We need a Manson + a Shattenkirk

We also need a Stone + Marchessault

- sbroads24

I wonder if we could get Marchessault in FA
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 6:03 PM ET
No, top 6.

Bottom 6 is Larsson, Girgs, Moulson, Griffith, Nolan, and Josefson.

- sbroads24


Gotcha. My point is, if our bottom six was Pominville, Pouliot, Okposo, Josefson, Erod and some other PK vet for 4c, and you had a new 2RW and 2LW, this is a totally different team. It would be very competitive imo
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
Gotcha. My point is, if our bottom six was Pominville, Pouliot, Okposo, Josefson, Erod and some other PK vet for 4c, and you had a new 2RW and 2LW, this is a totally different team. It would be very competitive imo
- jcragcrumple

Absolutely, but that also means your top 6 is better.

I think Jack is fine.

I think ROR is fine as your #2 center, or top line wing, but he can't be this teams 2nd best forward IMO.

We need our version of Malkin/Kucherov/Pavelski etc.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:19 PM ET
I can't quote from the last blog on mobile but I'm fairly confident in botts finding cost effective forwards and nylander/mittelstadt replacing Kane. He's a goal scoring winger who is worse than useless without the puck. Let's not pretend he's some franchise guy. The goal scoring will come when the team can finally move the puck well from the d zone and complete passes with some sort of consistency
- Sabresfan-365


So give me an example of your option “c”
Or just write up your top3 lines for next year
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 6:24 PM ET
Absolutely, but that also means your top 6 is better.

I think Jack is fine.

I think ROR is fine as your #2 center, or top line wing, but he can't be this teams 2nd best forward IMO.

We need our version of Malkin/Kucherov/Pavelski etc.

- sbroads24



That's why I think we should spend a few assets to jettison Bogo and Moulson, and trade Larsson and girgs. You free up like 17 mil this summer to find one 2W and hope Nylander or Mittelstadt can take the other. The team suddenly looks much different
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Nov 28 @ 6:25 PM ET
So give me an example of your option “c”
Or just write up your top3 lines for next year

- jdfitz77



option c would be bringing in a cost effective forward through FA or a buy low player or two through a trade.

Nylander stays on line 3 and the money you would have spent on kane is spent on spreading the scoring and getting it from 3 lines and whatever the return for him is.


It's way too early to draw up lines cause between now and then we don't really know who's going to be available.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:30 PM ET
option c would be bringing in a cost effective forward through FA or a buy low player or two through a trade.

Nylander stays on line 3 and the money you would have spent on kane is spent on spreading the scoring and getting it from 3 lines and whatever the return for him is.


It's way too early to draw up lines cause between now and then we don't really know who's going to be available.

- Sabresfan-365



U can still give an example of a player

What type player can we get on the cheap to replace Kane’s scoring & still keep Nylander on line3?

I feel like the kind of guy you’re talking about are like Pouliot
That’s a HUGE step down from Kane
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
That's why I think we should spend a few assets to jettison Bogo and Moulson, and trade Larsson and girgs. You free up like 17 mil this summer to find one 2W and hope Nylander or Mittelstadt can take the other. The team suddenly looks much different
- jcragcrumple


Kane-Eichel-Reinhart
Bailey-O’Reilly-Okposo
Nylander-Mittelstadt-Pominville

Having a 3rd line that can score 50 goals instead of 15 will be a pretty big help
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 28 @ 6:34 PM ET
U can still give an example of a player

What type player can we get on the cheap to replace Kane’s scoring & still keep Nylander on line3?

I feel like the kind of guy you’re talking about are like Pouliot
That’s a HUGE step down from Kane

- jdfitz77



You won't be able to contain Nylander to the 3rd line
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 6:37 PM ET
Kane-Eichel-Reinhart
Bailey-O’Reilly-Okposo
Nylander-Mittelstadt-Pominville

Having a 3rd line that can score 50 goals instead of 15 will be a pretty big help

- jdfitz77



And then Pouliot-Erod-Josefson (or new guy)

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:40 PM ET
And then Pouliot-Erod-Josefson (or new guy)
- jcragcrumple


I know u hate them, but I’m totally ok with Girgensons & Larsson on our 4th line
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:41 PM ET
You won't be able to contain Nylander to the 3rd line
- washedup20


Whatcha mean?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 6:43 PM ET
They aren't, don't worry.
- SABRES 89


We will find out
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:44 PM ET
We will find out
- gerbe75pts

I don't have to
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 6:45 PM ET
4-2 Sabres
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 6:46 PM ET
I know u hate them, but I’m totally ok with Girgensons & Larsson on our 4th line
- jdfitz77


I would just like more speed and a shock to the locker room, plus I think they're totally replaceable. If someone wanted them, and it helped defray the cost of parting with Bogo and Moulson, that's a big win imo

I also think Erod is light years better than both
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 28 @ 6:47 PM ET
Whatcha mean?
- jdfitz77



Kid gives Connolly a run for his money in skill, E L I T E top line only
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:48 PM ET
I would just like more speed and a shock to the locker room, plus I think they're totally replaceable. If someone wanted them, and it helped defray the cost of parting with Bogo and Moulson, that's a big win imo
- jcragcrumple


Girgensons has speed

In the case of using them to get rid of a bad contract... ok

I’m not shipping off guys who are decent players for a 3rd round pick that will likely never amount to anything though

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 6:48 PM ET
I don't have to
- SABRES 89


You will find out soon enough
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:49 PM ET
Kid gives Connolly a run for his money in skill, E L I T E top line only
- washedup20


Ok,
but I don’t need him to be a Top Line player right away

Development doesn’t stop once u get to the NHL
Let him start on line3 & work his way up
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 6:51 PM ET
Girgensons has speed

In the case of using them to get rid of a bad contract... ok

I’m not shipping off guys who are decent players for a 3rd round pick that will likely never amount to anything though

- jdfitz77


He has ok speed, but 0/10 ability to stay on his skates, and he's lost all toughness and finishing ability. It'll make a fun reclamation project for a skating coach somewhere else
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:56 PM ET
He has ok speed, but 0/10 ability to stay on his skates, and he's lost all toughness and finishing ability. It'll make a fun reclamation project for a skating coach somewhere else
- jcragcrumple


I think it’s blown out of proportion

I’m ok if we move on from Girgs,
but I don’t think we have to

He’s fine in a 4th line role IMO


The “shock to the locker room” point is overrated imo
If they’re playing hard, then they’re fine

E Rod isn’t proven at the NHL level though
I like him too
Girgensons-Larsson-Rodrigues
can be the 4th line next year

Then he can potentially move up when there’s injuries

Too much change can hinder us as well
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 28 @ 6:56 PM ET
I’d be cool with that
Giants should’ve just traded him at the deadline though

- jdfitz77


McAdoo has to be gone. He's terrible. That (frank)ing haircut alone should be grounds for dismissal for cause.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 28 @ 6:58 PM ET
McAdoo has to be gone. He's terrible. That (frank)ing haircut alone should be grounds for dismissal for cause.
- Wetbandit1


Hahaha
Totally agree
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