Can we be honest here?

He's so irreplacable that he's been apart of 0 playoff teams in 9 years.
- sbroads24

According to your logic...

The Yotes should look to move OEL
They haven’t won anything with him either

Well we were having a very reasonable discussion till u went off the rails

Who’s a guy this year who a team signed for a reasonable price that’s producing?
Vanek?
I think that’s still a pretty big step down from Kane
- jdfitz77

you call me dumb and I went off the rails? Just pointing out that you dont need that specific style of play to win.

Well we were having a very reasonable discussion till u went off the rails

Who’s a guy this year who a team signed for a reasonable price that’s producing?
Vanek?
I think that’s still a pretty big step down from Kane
- jdfitz77

“Off the rails” is IonSabres.

you call me dumb and I went off the rails? Just pointing out that you dont need that specific style of play to win.
- Sabresfan-365

Saying other teams win without Kane so we don’t need him is ridiculous

You could say that about tons of good players

How do other teams win without Eichel?
That logic is utter nonsense

you call me dumb and I went off the rails? Just pointing out that you dont need that specific style of play to win.
- Sabresfan-365

Not the relevant question. Relevant question is can it help you win? History shows the value - if not the necessity - of that kind of player.

According to your logic...

The Yotes should look to move OEL
They haven’t won anything with him either
- jdfitz77

"Look to move" and "How do we replace?" are two entirely different things.

According to Lebrun Sabres have made it known thy are willing to eat some of Kanes salary to facilitate a trade
- ImThatGuy

Saying other teams win without Kane so we don’t need him is ridiculous

You could say that about tons of good players

How do other teams win without Eichel?
That logic is utter nonsense
- jdfitz77

No, acting like Kane is a unicorn is utter nonsense.

This thread is painful to read (reed)

"Look to move" and "How do we replace?" are two entirely different things.
- sbroads24

Well one is the result of the other

If we trade Kane, we will need to replace him
Yeah, we lose with him
But if that’s your logic, then we should trade every player on our team,
including Eichel

It doesn’t hold up

Saying other teams win without Kane so we don’t need him is ridiculous

You could say that about tons of good players

How do other teams win without Eichel?
That logic is utter nonsense
- jdfitz77

it's not the specific player, its the playing style


All winning teams have a franchise centre


most of them don't have a "power forward" like kane.

It's not utter nonesense at all especially compared to hockeybuzz standard.

Not the relevant question. Relevant question is can it help you win? History shows the value - if not the necessity - of that kind of player.
- Der Kaiser

Does it? How many of the last cup champs have had a player like kane?

Edit: How many of them have had that kind of player as part of their core or at least making high end $ and term.

No, acting like Kane is a unicorn is utter nonsense.
- sbroads24

I’m not

Go ahead & list some guys u think we could replace him with...

We did this game in the summer,
didn’t we?

How are those guys u named doing?

Can we be honest here?

He's so irreplacable that he's been apart of 0 playoff teams in 9 years.
- sbroads24

Yeah, it's his fault he played for the Thrashers/Jets and the Sabres... Come on man.

This thread is painful to read (reed)
- jochfr

- mattmoulson

it's not the specific player, its the playing style


All winning teams have a franchise centre


most of them don't have a "power forward" like kane.

It's not utter nonesense at all especially compared to hockeybuzz standard.
- Sabresfan-365

What?
Ok... so now you’re saying we don’t NEED a “power forward” to win

I agree
There’s lots of ways to build a winning team

However,
having a “power forward” doesn’t preclude u from winning either

I’m not

Go ahead & list some guys u think we could replace him with...

We did this game in the summer,
didn’t we?

How are those guys u named doing?
- jdfitz77

Anyone who has any semblance of skill will score with Jack Eichel.

That list is 100 deep.

- mattmoulson

What?
Ok... so now you’re saying we don’t NEED a “power forward” to win

I agree
There’s lots of ways to build a winning team

However,
having a “power forward” doesn’t preclude u from winning either
- jdfitz77

that's what you're describing in kane no? I agree it doesn't preclude them from winning, it's also not such a necessity that moving on from him would cripple this teams ability to score.

We had 0 controlled zone exits from the d-men in the first period. zero. A competent blueline will go a long ways to to help this team score more.

Anyone who has any semblance of skill will score with Jack Eichel.

That list is 100 deep.
- sbroads24

Didn't we almost pay mcginn 4.5 mil cause of that?

What?
Ok... so now you’re saying we don’t NEED a “power forward” to win

I agree
There’s lots of ways to build a winning team

However,
having a “power forward” doesn’t preclude u from winning either
- jdfitz77

0 people said this. Nice straw man

Does it? How many of the last cup champs have had a player like kane?

Edit: How many of them have had that kind of player as part of their core or at least making high end $ and term.
- Sabresfan-365

Lucic & Dustin Brown immediately come to mind

MANY good teams have “power forwards”

I don’t see how that type of player keeps u from being a good team

Didn't we almost pay mcginn 4.5 mil cause of that?
- Sabresfan-365

Matt moulson also avoided a summer buyout due to that PP bump