Lol dude it was an invite to direct venting here and keep it out of the main thread. But some Cup holding President of crybabies had to frack that up. Plus I don't get a pass like others so if this another trap it better be worth it lol.

Also, it's a tanking rebuild process to respond to so have some patience for the results. You know flush out the hate and clean house with a new start to contend. Unlike the main thread, and in the past lurking on these side threads, might respond to all the BS but be direct and not so nice to let a lot go.

Plus have not got around to it as have been extra busy during the holidays to hardly post. So will start now cleaning the trash out here before end of year. But first will address Makita's post to clear some things up before getting into the hate mongers.

Just need to get to a computer as it's easier then off my phone lol.
- Nuck4U

Just delete your account troll.

Lol dude it was an invite to direct venting here and keep it out of the main thread. But some Cup holding President of crybabies had to frack that up. Plus I don't get a pass like others so if this another trap it better be worth it lol.

Also, it's a tanking rebuild process to respond to so have some patience for the results. You know flush out the hate and clean house with a new start to contend. Unlike the main thread, and in the past lurking on these side threads, might respond to all the BS but be direct and not so nice to let a lot go.

Plus have not got around to it as have been extra busy during the holidays to hardly post. So will start now cleaning the trash out here before end of year. But first will address Makita's post to clear some things up before getting into the hate mongers.

Just need to get to a computer as it's easier then off my phone lol.
- Nuck4U

Where did you discuss Canucks hockey prior to joining this website?

Where did you discuss Canucks hockey prior to joining this website?
- Nucker101

Not on any site if that's what you are asking? Didn't have that kind of time before for that type of interaction.

Edit:

I did get those reply posts out I promised to close out the year. Hope that swipes your slate clean. Sorry for the long winded writing. Had to rush it out on phone was pressed for time and didn't get to that computer lol.

Frack my posts can suck when double and triple tasking. My bad sorry. I don't edit and filter stuff to keep it smooth and simple when distracted like that. I type really fast and get stuff down in streams of thought. It can look whaky in print without the usual speaking guards that make things sound clear. My bad... but frack it this is the vent thread and who cares...plus being a lazy fruker.

Happy New Year and also to all you here whether haters, venters, lurkers, curious, good guys with a gun, vigilantes, cops, bystanders, followers or whatever label you like or should apply.

Well, I see the glove has officially been thrown down and a challenge has been issued. I personally will allow you guys to have at it,(WhiteLie might not) but there has to be a line draw somewhere and at this time I’m not sure where. Maybe WhiteLie will have some better insight.

Now I will state this for the record, Mr. N4U the VFZ forum was not created because of you. It was created out of frustration of dumb ass comments and dedicated to someone who shared those views. I stumbled upon while policing other threads in the beginning and found it a safe place to share my frustrations of dealing with controversial posters.

You have made it out to be some secret club where people lurk to mock you, not so at all, the thread is in a public forum, no secret passwords, no secret handshakes, no secret PM’s, it wasn’t secret at all. Everything was there for all to see, just as is this thread.
- Makita

I can see how I confused you or made you susceptible to certain suggestions by others who have an agenda or even maybe legit beef.

I don't fall into any of the usual two camps for Canuck talk. So wind up rubbing both sides the wrong way thinking I'm coming against them. Plus, my professional training and approach to finess the finer points can grate too. Lol really thought that was the point of the site...playful banter aside.

Besides my many mistakes I don't know why you would say my take was these forum threads were secret or private protected? I have been following them for over 6 months. I know everything that was said. So of course I know it is a "public" forum (my point so many times in main thread). But those here didn't think others like me knew about it. That was the silliness that I was trying to point out in choice of words.

Thus, I was being sarcastic in some of my references to these threads was how posters reacted when told about them. They all thanked the ones starting them for the "invite" to come use them. Then they all thought I or the others they ridiculed or complained about had no idea they were here doing it. So I mocked it later as private or clique stuff. Maybe that got your attention so my bad if you didn't get the reference.

Though did find it odd that first Vantel thread was locked up after links were posted on main thread. The other ones after gone too. Lately only just this to follow. I do admit for a while I'd take what was said on the Vantel one and main thread and throw shade. Sorry if that was annoying and challenging with not being clear and throwing out innuendos that were too vague. Lol after the lockup and continued news ones I got a little more direct. But still screwed up in how you understood it. My mistake.

So sorry for the confusion you do try hard to manage expectations for everyone who comes to this site. I don't think you know I appreciate it and respect it is not easy.

Plus this assumption of wrong intent it's not on you it can get contagious. That's what gas lighting does. Some are good at it and I have screwed up to get labeled. My fault again being too late to change the impressions.

You know the narratives, it's me, and look how great the thread is if banned. LOL, I go offline, that's when they say he's banned and try to prove something. They post some look how great it is now stuff to try to convince. But there have been dust ups and expletive anger thrown around when I don't post or am not around. Yet hey it's convenient when you have a bias or agenda to stick to a single out narrative. But my fault for challenging and feeding them some lines.

None of this is about you of course. Have had that allegation attached too. I did get frustrated when you didn't get what was going on and sort of needled you on hockey talk when you came at me or posted the stuff you were poking at me. So sorry for being wienerly about it at times. I was trying to play along for the most part.

Anyway, so its clear. I was coming here now NOT to fight or dirty troll. This is another in a long line of mistaken expectations. I just wanted it to be known to some who can't let things go to leave it off the main thread. Just come here for that vent off. They don't have to be afraid of flags or roaming refs or play to an audience. Just straight talk. Clear out the fumes.

But look at Marwoods and Pres.Cups reactions. How and what they post. They SEEM to want a dirty fight to feel better about themselves. They couldn't care less about any pretentious BS about the main thread, Carol or other posters if they keep doing that stuff, right?

I do admit to getting sucked in to tap back. The popular pile up ensues from the label and voila. Remember full disclosure on my misteps to have earned that. Not just to you but in public. I get a will see but no benefit of the doubt in engagement. Then when I do give in to the constant hate and call something out. Its proof that its me and pile on again. My bad for letting that happen but I do slip and say frak it won't keep just letting it ALL go.

Anyway, no matter what I try with a dedicated few it does last. Ignore, nudge, or don't do what they pretend complain or they say upsets them, it hasn't changed. Daily they will either start up or find something to stir sh!t up. Of course others who like them from past dealings will stick up for them over a newbie like me. Others don't care or find it entertaining or even with a legit beef will join in or pile on. You know how easy that goes.

Following that Vantel thread where they plotted to frak things up so they could get a ban is why I said games are being played. They would then try to show by behaving or whatever look at how lovely things are and square it on me. Like narratives that Marwood particularly engineered well, to get others to believe, and join in (gas light).

But posters are tired of the BS. More and more. Example see how they didn't take the red meat Pres tried feeding on the main thread last night with that transfer cut and paste novel. Don't know what gives him the right, even with Marwood support, to be the champion of banning so as to stir posters up.

So with this long winded synopsis what do you want to happen here on out? What approach can be done for serenity? Those two I mentioned here don't like the ignore and move on advice.

Oh yeah, put this out so they don't think something sneaky is going on. You see in Pres.Cup post here that they still bring up that lie saying I went over your head to complain about you to EO. How about getting them to listen to your truth?

Challenge accepted

I didn't know about side threads until a couple weeks ago but here goes.

Alright, nothing to be ashamed of from my end.

I find you an arrogant know it all who doesn't let anybody have an opinion without engaging them and calling them an idiot for having their opinion.

Your attempts to engage with comedy and light jest sound like a wasted English teacher speaking English with French grammer. It makes no sense and you can't seem to self deprecate at all. Any time someone disagrees with you, you get offended and get up on a high horse.
You pick fights with everyone, including the refs, who let you get away with tons, and yet you still had the audacity to go over their heads.
I disagreed with the idea of a lifetime ban when discussing this with captaineo, even though half the regular long timers wanted you gone. I thoroughly regret that decision.

You are personally responsible for making carols thread partially resemble a Hendo blog with the bullsh:t that you start.

You're not an idiot, one in every three posts make sense, but until you figure out how to self criticize you're going to sound like am arrogant douche bag. Again you are not an idiot, you just seem to play one on hockey buzz.

Go 3 full blogs without picking a fight or directly contradicting anyone, at that time ill treat you like a valuable member of our team, until then you're a pox on us and have caused many good long term posters to leave.
How many good men must die so one asshat can live? You're the answer to that question.

Bring it.


- Pres.cup

Lol it wasn't a challenge. Can't take what you post straight up cause you say you are a joker.

But this clown act doesn't make you some vigilante of truth to battle the evils, of me, the villain in your game.

So no dude I don't listen to you but usually laugh it off and move on. Sometimes I give in to your poking and throw a silly jab back. Sometimes you get it but mostly don't or pretend not to and go all out annoying.

Happy now? You want to play more truth or dare?

He was trying to pick a fight a couple of nights ago. You called him out for it.
He is a troll and will always be a troll.
- Marwood

This pretty much sums up why you will never let anything go and are desperate to make things up as you have often. Your narrative is predictable and always the same. There is never any self admission of fault. You enjoy the dirty fight it's not about some legit beef to resolve. The hate is strong in you and it's amazing how you never take your foot off that gas. It's actually fascinating without knowing the real person behind an anonymous site how focused that hate spews.

I am no innocent wall flower but you are not some victim. I don't create or start complaints but it annoys you when I choose to respond? But my responses or non responses to you sure must grind you gears huh. What is it that most of your targets have exploded on you or disappear? I'm not talking playful banter and ribbing. You know the difference.

Are you annoyed that I don't take things personally and still come back every day to start fresh? Is that why you perpetuate hate with a first post of complaint hate to find takers to support and stir it up?

I don't expect any straight answer from you. Your pattern has been to evade, deny, counter or just use expletives. Last part is easy to do I can curse at you. That's why when I don't you get more frustrated to use that pompous narrative.

Frack it ... does it matter... do you really care...what do you want to prove, make a point or get your way? I'm no angel and do stupid stuff or spout off. But do you ever look in that mirror when you throw out those accusing lines?

Can you be reasonable to let this sh!t die and move on?!?

Who knows you may surprise but dares and truths have not been your thing.

This pretty much sums up why you will never let anything go and are desperate to make things up as you have often. Your narrative is predictable and always the same. There is never any self admission of fault. You enjoy the dirty fight it's not about some legit beef to resolve. The hate is strong in you and it's amazing how you never take your foot off that gas. It's actually facsinating how without knowing the real person behind an anonymous site can be focused to spew hate.

I am no innocent wall flower but you are not some victim. I don't create or start complaints but it annoys you when I choose to respond? .But my reasponses or non responses to you sure must grind you gears huh. What is it that most of your targets have exploded on you or disappear? I'm not talking playful banter and ribbing. You know the difference.

Are you annoyed that I don't take things personally and still come back every day to start fresh? Is that why you perpetuate hate with a first post of complaint hate to find takers to support and stir it up?

I don't expect any straight answer from you. Your pattern has been to evade, deny, counter or just use expletives. Last part is easy to do I can curse at you. That's why when I don't you get more frustrated to use that pompous narrative.

Frack it ... does it matter... do you really care...what you want to prove a point or get your way? I'm no angel and do stupid stuff or spout off. But do you ever look in that mirror when you throw out those accusing lines?

Can you be reasonable to let this sh!t die and move on?!?

Who knows you may surprise but dares and truths have not been your thing.
- Nuck4U

I see you are making some new friends. Keep up the good work, I am sure you will flatter them with your wonderful outgoing personality.

Not on any site if that's what you are asking? Didn't have that kind of time before for that type of interaction.

Edit:

I did get those reply posts out I promised to close out the year. Hope that swipes your slate clean. Sorry for the long winded writing. Had to rush it out on phone was pressed for time and didn't get to that computer lol.

Frack my posts can suck when double and triple tasking. My bad sorry. I don't edit and filter stuff to keep it smooth and simple when distracted like that. I type really fast and get stuff down in streams of thought. It can look whaky in print without the usual speaking guards that make things sound clear. My bad... but frack it this is the vent thread and who cares...plus being a lazy fruker.

Happy New Year and also to all you here whether haters, venters, lurkers, curious, good guys with a gun, vigilantes, cops, bystanders, followers or whatever label you like or should apply.
- Nuck4U

We don't care. Most hate you. Just go away.

I can see how I confused you or made you susceptible to certain suggestions by others who have an agenda or even maybe legit beef.

I don't fall into any of the usual two camps for Canuck talk. So wind up rubbing both sides the wrong way thinking I'm coming against them. Plus, my professional training and approach to finess the finer points can grate too. Lol really thought that was the point of the site...playful banter aside.

Besides my many mistakes I don't know why you would say my take was these forum threads were secret or private protected? I have been following them for over 6 months. I know everything that was said. So of course I know it is a "public" forum (my point so many times in main thread). But those here didn't think others like me knew about it. That was the silliness that I was trying to point out in choice of words.

Thus, I was being sarcastic in some of my references to these threads was how posters reacted when told about them. They all thanked the ones starting them for the "invite" to come use them. Then they all thought I or the others they ridiculed or complained about had no idea they were here doing it. So I mocked it later as private or clique stuff. Maybe that got your attention so my bad if you didn't get the reference.

Though did find it odd that first Vantel thread was locked up after links were posted on main thread. The other ones after gone too. Lately only just this to follow. I do admit for a while I'd take what was said on the Vantel one and main thread and throw shade. Sorry if that was annoying and challenging with not being clear and throwing out innuendos that were too vague. Lol after the lockup and continued news ones I got a little more direct. But still screwed up in how you understood it. My mistake.

So sorry for the confusion you do try hard to manage expectations for everyone who comes to this site. I don't think you know I appreciate it and respect it is not easy.

Plus this assumption of wrong intent it's not on you it can get contagious. That's what gas lighting does. Some are good at it and I have screwed up to get labeled. My fault again being too late to change the impressions.

You know the narratives, it's me, and look how great the thread is if banned. LOL, I go offline, that's when they say he's banned and try to prove something. They post some look how great it is now stuff to try to convince. But there have been dust ups and expletive anger thrown around when I don't post or am not around. Yet hey it's convenient when you have a bias or agenda to stick to a single out narrative. But my fault for challenging and feeding them some lines.

None of this is about you of course. Have had that allegation attached too. I did get frustrated when you didn't get what was going on and sort of needled you on hockey talk when you came at me or posted the stuff you were poking at me. So sorry for being wienerly about it at times. I was trying to play along for the most part.

Anyway, so its clear. I was coming here now NOT to fight or dirty troll. This is another in a long line of mistaken expectations. I just wanted it to be known to some who can't let things go to leave it off the main thread. Just come here for that vent off. They don't have to be afraid of flags or roaming refs or play to an audience. Just straight talk. Clear out the fumes.

But look at Marwoods and Pres.Cups reactions. How and what they post. They SEEM to want a dirty fight to feel better about themselves. They couldn't care less about any pretentious BS about the main thread, Carol or other posters if they keep doing that stuff, right?

I do admit to getting sucked in to tap back. The popular pile up ensues from the label and voila. Remember full disclosure on my misteps to have earned that. Not just to you but in public. I get a will see but no benefit of the doubt in engagement. Then when I do give in to the constant hate and call something out. Its proof that its me and pile on again. My bad for letting that happen but I do slip and say frak it won't keep just letting it ALL go.

Anyway, no matter what I try with a dedicated few it does last. Ignore, nudge, or don't do what they pretend complain or they say upsets them, it hasn't changed. Daily they will either start up or find something to stir sh!t up. Of course others who like them from past dealings will stick up for them over a newbie like me. Others don't care or find it entertaining or even with a legit beef will join in or pile on. You know how easy that goes.

Following that Vantel thread where they plotted to frak things up so they could get a ban is why I said games are being played. They would then try to show by behaving or whatever look at how lovely things are and square it on me. Like narratives that Marwood particularly engineered well, to get others to believe, and join in (gas light).

But posters are tired of the BS. More and more. Example see how they didn't take the red meat Pres tried feeding on the main thread last night with that transfer cut and paste novel. Don't know what gives him the right, even with Marwood support, to be the champion of banning so as to stir posters up.

So with this long winded synopsis what do you want to happen here on out? What approach can be done for serenity? Those two I mentioned here don't like the ignore and move on advice.

Oh yeah, put this out so they don't think something sneaky is going on. You see in Pres.Cup post here that they still bring up that lie saying I went over your head to complain about you to EO. How about getting them to listen to your truth?
- Nuck4U

What a load of crap!!!
Go get the help you need.

Lol it wasn't a challenge. Can't take what you post straight up cause you say you are a joker.

But this clown act doesn't make you some vigilante of truth to battle the evils, of me, the villain in your game.

So no dude I don't listen to you but usually laugh it off and move on. Sometimes I give in to your poking and throw a silly jab back. Sometimes you get it but mostly don't or pretend not to and go all out annoying.

Happy now? You want to play more truth or dare?
- Nuck4U

It was a challenge!!
You talk circles around yourself until you are arguing with yourself.
You are a disruptive troll.
You cause nothing but chaos and for a fellow so worried about the CoC, you sure do get banned a lot.
Troll.

This pretty much sums up why you will never let anything go and are desperate to make things up as you have often. Your narrative is predictable and always the same. There is never any self admission of fault. You enjoy the dirty fight it's not about some legit beef to resolve. The hate is strong in you and it's amazing how you never take your foot off that gas. It's actually fascinating without knowing the real person behind an anonymous site how focused that hate spews.

I am no innocent wall flower but you are not some victim. I don't create or start complaints but it annoys you when I choose to respond? But my responses or non responses to you sure must grind you gears huh. What is it that most of your targets have exploded on you or disappear? I'm not talking playful banter and ribbing. You know the difference.

Are you annoyed that I don't take things personally and still come back every day to start fresh? Is that why you perpetuate hate with a first post of complaint hate to find takers to support and stir it up?

I don't expect any straight answer from you. Your pattern has been to evade, deny, counter or just use expletives. Last part is easy to do I can curse at you. That's why when I don't you get more frustrated to use that pompous narrative.

Frack it ... does it matter... do you really care...what do you want to prove, make a point or get your way? I'm no angel and do stupid stuff or spout off. But do you ever look in that mirror when you throw out those accusing lines?

Can you be reasonable to let this sh!t die and move on?!?

Who knows you may surprise but dares and truths have not been your thing.
- Nuck4U

I hate you and won't go away.
You are a pompous ass with a superiority complex.

I hate you and won't go away.
You are a pompous ass with a superiority complex.
- Marwood

tbf. that is redundant. its okay to call him one or the other.

tbf. that is redundant. its okay to call him one or the other.
- Gramps28

He needs the emphasis to fully grasp the scope of loathing.
Thanks for having my back, though.

This pretty much sums up why you will never let anything go and are desperate to make things up as you have often. Your narrative is predictable and always the same. There is never any self admission of fault. You enjoy the dirty fight it's not about some legit beef to resolve. The hate is strong in you and it's amazing how you never take your foot off that gas. It's actually fascinating without knowing the real person behind an anonymous site how focused that hate spews.

I am no innocent wall flower but you are not some victim. I don't create or start complaints but it annoys you when I choose to respond? But my responses or non responses to you sure must grind you gears huh. What is it that most of your targets have exploded on you or disappear? I'm not talking playful banter and ribbing. You know the difference.

Are you annoyed that I don't take things personally and still come back every day to start fresh? Is that why you perpetuate hate with a first post of complaint hate to find takers to support and stir it up?

I don't expect any straight answer from you. Your pattern has been to evade, deny, counter or just use expletives. Last part is easy to do I can curse at you. That's why when I don't you get more frustrated to use that pompous narrative.

Frack it ... does it matter... do you really care...what do you want to prove, make a point or get your way? I'm no angel and do stupid stuff or spout off. But do you ever look in that mirror when you throw out those accusing lines?

Can you be reasonable to let this sh!t die and move on?!?

Who knows you may surprise but dares and truths have not been your thing.
- Nuck4U

I find you an arrogant know it all who doesn't let anybody have an opinion without engaging them and calling them an idiot for having their opinion.

Your attempts to engage with comedy and light jest sound like a wasted English teacher speaking English with French grammer. It makes no sense and you can't seem to self deprecate at all. Any time someone disagrees with you, you get offended and get up on a high horse.
You pick fights with everyone, including the refs, who let you get away with tons, and yet you still had the audacity to go over their heads.
I disagreed with the idea of a lifetime ban when discussing this with captaineo, even though half the regular long timers wanted you gone. I thoroughly regret that decision.

You are personally responsible for making carols thread partially resemble a Hendo blog with the bullsh:t that you start.

You're not an idiot, one in every three posts make sense, but until you figure out how to self criticize you're going to sound like am arrogant douche bag. Again you are not an idiot, wit with the self pity act it's wearing thin.

Go 3 full blogs without picking a fight or directly contradicting anyone, at that time ill treat you like a valuable member of our team, until then you're a pox on us and have caused many good long term posters to leave.

This post doesn't violate the COC so don't bring captain eo into it.

I find you an arrogant know it all who doesn't let anybody have an opinion without engaging them and calling them an idiot for having their opinion.

Your attempts to engage with comedy and light jest sound like a wasted English teacher speaking English with French grammer. It makes no sense and you can't seem to self deprecate at all. Any time someone disagrees with you, you get offended and get up on a high horse.
You pick fights with everyone, including the refs, who let you get away with tons, and yet you still had the audacity to go over their heads.
I disagreed with the idea of a lifetime ban when discussing this with captaineo, even though half the regular long timers wanted you gone. I thoroughly regret that decision.

You are personally responsible for making carols thread partially resemble a Hendo blog with the bullsh:t that you start.

You're not an idiot, one in every three posts make sense, but until you figure out how to self criticize you're going to sound like am arrogant douche bag. Again you are not an idiot, wit with the self pity act it's wearing thin.

Go 3 full blogs without picking a fight or directly contradicting anyone, at that time ill treat you like a valuable member of our team, until then you're a pox on us and have caused many good long term posters to leave.

This post doesn't violate the COC so don't bring captain eo into it.
- Pres.cup

There is no flagging in the forums. Free thought zone.
Anyone who flags in here is a deceitful piece of sh*t.

There is no flagging in the forums. Free thought zone.
Anyone who flags in here is a deceitful piece of sh*t.
- Marwood

Would anything surprise you?

Would anything surprise you?
- Pres.cup

No.
I'm sure he's been flagging posts in the forums.

Lol it wasn't a challenge. Can't take what you post straight up cause you say you are a joker.

But this clown act doesn't make you some vigilante of truth to battle the evils, of me, the villain in your game.

So no dude I don't listen to you but usually laugh it off and move on. Sometimes I give in to your poking and throw a silly jab back. Sometimes you get it but mostly don't or pretend not to and go all out annoying.

Happy now? You want to play more truth or dare?
- Nuck4U

Please stop posting, you obviously need to attend finishing school to recieve some manners before posting like a grown up.

No.
I'm sure he's been flagging posts in the forums.
- Marwood

He messaged CaptainEo to complain about being bullied, that's why i got banned for a week, later shortened to 48 hours.
So perhaps not flagging but messaging the commissioner directly.

He messaged CaptainEo to complain about being bullied, that's why i got banned for a week, later shortened to 48 hours.
So perhaps not flagging but messaging the commissioner directly.
- Pres.cup

He really needs to find another forum and a new group of 'friends'.

He messaged CaptainEo to complain about being bullied, that's why i got banned for a week, later shortened to 48 hours.
So perhaps not flagging but messaging the commissioner directly.
- Pres.cup

You can actually do this?

He really needs to find another forum and a new group of 'friends'.
- Marwood

Impossible...

You can actually do this?
- Renidrag

You can PM him like anyone else.
It's Dragon & NuckFU's go to everytime they feel slighted or victimized.
NuckFU constantly goes over WhiteLie & Makita's head when they don't like the direction of the comments page.
The forums use to be a santuary from all of the disruptive and confrontational antics of our little special needs friend in NY.

You can actually do this?
- Renidrag

sure you can. getting a response? its a lottery based system

You can actually do this?
- Renidrag

Yes, you need to find him first though, he and I have had several heart to hearts over the past year due to somebody needing kiddy gloves....