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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:04 PM ET
Smart for Giroux's point totals. Not the Flyers point totals
- YuenglingJagr


It's not just about Giroux's point totals. This will extend the period that Giroux remains a top scorer and player in my opinion. With the center prospects the Flyers have it also make sense.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Nov 29 @ 6:12 PM ET
If only passing through waivers was a foolproof way of knowing how a player is going to turn out. NHL history is full of players that passed through waivers at one time or another and went on to become very good NHL players.
- MJL


I'd wager most were younger than 25 years old. Weal was drafted in 2010. How much development time does he need? Will you say the same thing in 5 years? We have Konecny, I don't see the need for Weal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'd wager most were younger than 25 years old. Weal was drafted in 2010. How much development time does he need? Will you say the same thing in 5 years? We have Konecny, I don't see the need for Weal.
- SimmerDown17



NHL history is also ripe with players who were late bloomers. There is no such thing as not needing as many good players as you can get. Konecny has zero to do with Weal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
"We have too many good centers" - noone, ever
- YuenglingJagr

quantify good
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
It's not just about Giroux's point totals. This will extend the period that Giroux remains a top scorer and player in my opinion. With the center prospects the Flyers have it also make sense.
- MJL

Lol okay. So giroux scoring means the Flyers are good? Someone should tell the NHL standings
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
quantify good
- 2Real

> Filppula
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
> Filppula
- YuenglingJagr

*chuckles*
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Nov 29 @ 6:25 PM ET
NHL history is also ripe with players who were late bloomers. There is no such thing as not needing as many good players as you can get. Konecny has zero to do with Weal.
- MJL


You can have too many small players on the roster and get beat out on puck battles...
I don't think he's a good player and you disagree. I'm ok with that. Cheers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
Lol okay. So giroux scoring means the Flyers are good? Someone should tell the NHL standings
- YuenglingJagr


You have a reading comprehension problem, which is why you respond arrogantly with the LOL okay. I didn't say anywhere that Giroux scoring means the Flyers are good.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:30 PM ET
You can have too many small players on the roster and get beat out on puck battles...
I don't think he's a good player and you disagree. I'm ok with that. Cheers.

- SimmerDown17


First of all, in our conversation I did not state that Weal is a good player. I simply replied to your original post that you don't know what kind of player he is going to ultimately be and neither do I and that the jury is still out on that. Good players are good players, small, medium, or large.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
You have a reading comprehension problem, which is why you respond arrogantly with the LOL okay. I didn't say anywhere that Giroux scoring means the Flyers are good.
- MJL

"It's not about giroux scoring...it is about extending the time he remains a top scorer..."

Flyers center prospects have nothing to do with not playing their three best centers at center right now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:36 PM ET
"It's not about giroux scoring...it is about extending the time he remains a top scorer..."

Flyers center prospects have nothing to do with not playing their three best centers at center right now.

- YuenglingJagr


Strike two. I'll ask you again where does it say that the Flyers are good if Giroux is scoring?

The depth of center prospects the Flyers have including recently drafting Patrick is part of the reason why they made the move in my opinion.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Nov 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
First of all, in our conversation I did not state that Weal is a good player. I simply replied to your original post that you don't know what kind of player he is going to ultimately be and neither do I and that the jury is still out on that. Good players are good players, small, medium, or large.
- MJL


NHL history is also ripe with players who were late bloomers. There is no such thing as not needing as many good players as you can get. Konecny has zero to do with Weal.
- MJL

This implies Weal is a good player. Are you a lawyer by any chance?
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
Shopping Sanheim would be a colossal mistake. That kid is going to be a flat out stud defenseman in a few years time.
- MJL

Absolutely, whole heartedly agree with you here!!!!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 6:59 PM ET
NHL history is also ripe with players who were late bloomers. There is no such thing as not needing as many good players as you can get. Konecny has zero to do with Weal.
- MJL

This implies Weal is a good player. Are you a lawyer by any chance?

- SimmerDown17


No it does not imply that. That is your failed read. Other replies that I have made to you reinforce the belief that the jury is still out on Weal as a player. You are the one who is making a final judgement on the player after less than one season of NHL games.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 29 @ 7:00 PM ET
NHL history is also ripe with players who were late bloomers. There is no such thing as not needing as many good players as you can get. Konecny has zero to do with Weal.
- MJL

This implies Weal is a good player. Are you a lawyer by any chance?

- SimmerDown17

MJL's biggest downfall is his failure comprehend implications. Wording sentences a certain way may lead the reader to think one thing or another, be that intentional or not. His issue is when he unintentionally implies something, he is unable to comprehend it, repeatedly saying "I never said that", which prolongs an argument that really should have been settled on common ground. On the flip side, he is unable to comprehend when others imply things, which results, more or less, in the same thing: arguing over ridiculous semantics. It's tough, but we're working on it.
SimmerDown17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: It aint my fault, SimmerDown aint my alt, CA
Joined: 06.26.2014

Nov 29 @ 7:03 PM ET
MJL's biggest downfall is his failure comprehend implications. Wording sentences a certain way may lead the reader to think one thing or another, be that intentional or not. His issue is when he unintentionally implies something, he is unable to comprehend it, repeatedly saying "I never said that", which prolongs an argument that really should have been settled on common ground. On the flip side, he is unable to comprehend when others imply things, which results, more or less, in the same thing: arguing over ridiculous semantics. It's tough, but we're working on it.
- Giroux_Is_God


Thank you! I'm convinced he's a lawyer
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:10 PM ET
MJL's biggest downfall is his failure comprehend implications. Wording sentences a certain way may lead the reader to think one thing or another, be that intentional or not. His issue is when he unintentionally implies something, he is unable to comprehend it, repeatedly saying "I never said that", which prolongs an argument that really should have been settled on common ground. On the flip side, he is unable to comprehend when others imply things, which results, more or less, in the same thing: arguing over ridiculous semantics. It's tough, but we're working on it.
- Giroux_Is_God


Discussing posters is against the code of conduct.

Secondly, misread implications is on the person making them, not the person who said something in plain english. You're simply wrong. That's not an implication.

The below statement does not in any way imply that the Flyers are a good team just because Giroux is scoring. The comment was obviously about one lineup change and how it affects the Flyers moving forward.

"It's not just about Giroux's point totals. This will extend the period that Giroux remains a top scorer and player in my opinion. With the center prospects the Flyers have it also make sense.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Nov 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
Discussing posters is against the code of conduct.

Secondly, misread implications is on the person making them, not the person who said something in plain english. You're simply wrong. That's not an implication.

The below statement does not in any way imply that the Flyers are a good team just because Giroux is scoring.

"It's not just about Giroux's point totals. This will extend the period that Giroux remains a top scorer and player in my opinion. With the center prospects the Flyers have it also make sense.

- MJL



You suck.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 29 @ 7:20 PM ET
You suck.
- Tfaehner


I know, how dare I stick up for myself. Making that post about a poster is what sucks.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 29 @ 8:45 PM ET
Discussing posters is against the code of conduct.

Secondly, misread implications is on the person making them, not the person who said something in plain english. You're simply wrong. That's not an implication.

The below statement does not in any way imply that the Flyers are a good team just because Giroux is scoring. The comment was obviously about one lineup change and how it affects the Flyers moving forward.

"It's not just about Giroux's point totals. This will extend the period that Giroux remains a top scorer and player in my opinion. With the center prospects the Flyers have it also make sense.

- MJL

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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 29 @ 9:18 PM ET
(Peeks in)

Nope, nothing to see here
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 29 @ 10:08 PM ET
Herpily Derpily Herp HERP HURRRR
- 2Real

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 29 @ 10:26 PM ET
(Peeks in)

Nope, nothing to see here

- BiggE


Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Flyers PK has been bad for a while. The whole rotating the top 2 guys of the box has them chasing and feels like something Lappy brought to the PK unit and it hasn't looked effective - looks dangerous and too reactionary IMO.

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