You must come on here mid thought and just start typing.
- washedup20

100%

Watch the return big boy! Eating part of his $$ makes him more appealing for teams capped strapped, GMJB knows what he is doing. Evander is the top trade market forward (at this time) and having it out there (eating some cap hit) makes the return teams willing to give up - exciting!

What is Myers bringing back? Duff Wings!!
- Irish 14

To be fair, many reports have come out stating no team is interested in giving Kane a long term deal. We we see how true that is with teams like Van and EDM.

I still see a Kane for Tanev Deal.

If we can take Dorsett and Eat Kanes Celery we can squeeze out a 2nd rd pick, maybe.

To be fair, many reports have come out stating no team is interested in giving Kane a long term deal. We we see how true that is with teams like Van and EDM.

I still see a Kane for Tanev Deal.

If we can take Dorsett and Eat Kanes Celery we can squeeze out a 2nd rd pick, maybe.
- ImThatGuy

More........

So bring up a bunch of kids that are winning in the AHL right now to let them get their skulls stomped in...got it

Even though that is 100% different from what Botterill has been preaching since he got here...
- Stripes77

IF they are winning in the AHL, why would they get their skulls stomped in?

unless you are in the house of the AHL team has to be good, which is such a crock of S*(&%

And what the hell does it matter the age, if they are good, they are good. Its not like they are 18-19 year old kids either.

More........
- Irish 14

I just don't see it.

Kane is having a great year, no doubt. But he is going to market, he is going to command a huge deal. Teams know this.

I just don't see it.

Kane is having a great year, no doubt. But he is going to market, he is going to command a huge deal. Teams know this.
- ImThatGuy

I'd love to see Kane in the post season, with any team.

The Montreal Canadiens made a trade on Thursday morning, swapping centre Peter Holland to the New York Rangers in return for forward Adam Cracknell.

IF they are winning in the AHL, why would they get their skulls stomped in?

unless you are in the house of the AHL team has to be good, which is such a crock of S*(&%
- ImThatGuy

Yet the current GM of the team thinks they need to win there first...

Also we have seen the Baptistes, Faschings, Baileys already.

They aren't ready for big minutes in the NHL yet.

Nylander is coming off an injury where he didn't play for almost 3 months but yeah lets throw them to the wolves again and just keep the losing culture going.

IF they are winning in the AHL, why would they get their skulls stomped in?

unless you are in the house of the AHL team has to be good, which is such a crock of S*(&%
- ImThatGuy

The GM wants the AHL to be good, so if it's a crock, email him.

We just happen to agree with him.

Make them win their way out of Rochester.

I'd love to see Kane in the post season, with any team.
- 51_Killer

That's another part of it, Kane has never played in the playoffs, ever.

I just don't see it.

Kane is having a great year, no doubt. But he is going to market, he is going to command a huge deal. Teams know this.
- ImThatGuy

if they can turn kane into tanev...

Yet the current GM of the team thinks they need to win there first...

Also we have seen the Baptistes, Faschings, Baileys already.

They aren't ready for big minutes in the NHL yet.

Nylander is coming off an injury where he didn't play for almost 3 months but yeah lets throw them to the wolves again and just keep the losing culture going.
- Stripes77

A prime example of this is Reinhart. He skips Rochester, looks great for the first season, declines for what looks like the next two years. The first year all were saying it was a great idea to keep him, I even became convinced at the half way point.

Given that maturity is what his big issue seems to be (rumored), wouldn't forcing him to become a professional in Rochester be the best thing?

Haven't we learned this yet?

Yet the current GM of the team thinks they need to win there first...

Also we have seen the Baptistes, Faschings, Baileys already.

They aren't ready for big minutes in the NHL yet.

Nylander is coming off an injury where he didn't play for almost 3 months but yeah lets throw them to the wolves again and just keep the losing culture going.
- Stripes77

Oh, the culture thing.

Culture only is talked about when a team is losing.

You know what creates "a good culture", talent.

You build your team with a good culture, and Ill build it with the most talent.

Culture and Grit are two things that i hate the most.

You must come on here mid thought and just start typing.
- washedup20

Mid thought would mean there was thought to begin with

Oh, the culture thing.

Culture only is talked about when a team is losing.

You know what creates "a good culture", talent.

You build your team with a good culture, and Ill build it with the most talent.

Culture and Grit are two things that i hate the most.
- ImThatGuy

You're creating a false dichotomy. What you need is both.

Ullmark called up and is practicing with Johnson.

Oh, the culture thing.

Culture only is talked about when a team is losing.

You know what creates "a good culture", talent.

You build your team with a good culture, and Ill build it with the most talent.

Culture and Grit are two things that i hate the most.
- ImThatGuy

A prime example of this is Reinhart. He skips Rochester, looks great for the first season, declines for what looks like the next two years. The first year all were saying it was a great idea to keep him, I even became convinced at the half way point.

Given that maturity is what his big issue seems to be (rumored), wouldn't forcing him to become a professional in Rochester be the best thing?

Haven't we learned this yet?
- gcomella34

Or, maybe, he just is not as good as we thought. The entire Reinhart family has turned out to be not so great.

I'm so glad AHL time helped Luke Adam, Nathan Gerbe, Mark Mancari, Cory Conacher.
All AHL greats that came through the system.

Mid thought would mean there was thought to begin with
- sbroads24

Solid B scorcher.

Ullmark called up and is practicing with Johnson.
- Shadman306

Old news.. Lehner maintenance day

team needs 2 defenseman i think if McCabe-Antipin is your 3rd pair you have a good group
- robz228

No problem, just win the lottery
Dahlen- Risto
Scandella-Guhle
McCabe-Antipin
Bogosian

Or, maybe, he just is not as good as we thought. The entire Reinhart family has turned out to be not so great.

I'm so glad AHL time helped Luke Adam, Nathan Gerbe, Mark Mancari, Cory Conacher.
All AHL greats that came through the system.
- ImThatGuy

That's the other thing.

He's been groomed to be an NHL'er since a very young age. He had the smarts, and hockey IQ down, which is what usually holds young players back for a few years.

The fact is Reinhart is a very limited player

Also watching on the iMac allows me to have half the screen the game and the other hockeybuzz. That's a staple as we all need each others support to get through this.

Usually get to see cabin be sarcastic, kaiser be cryptic, at least two we need to sign Kane vs trade him arguments, Chilliard drop something in his toilet, graced by Gerbe (only if they're losing ) , Beady lose his poop, homie say special teams don't matter, and everyone say Goalie X sucks.

All in all, pretty good time.
- gcomella34

I'm not cryptic - I'm careless and carefree.

if they can turn kane into tanev...
- Sabresfan-365

Bogo part deux. Tanev can't play a whole season

- jcragcrumple

For accurately identifying half of the equation of establishing a solid franchise, yeah you're absolutely right.

And acquiring talent is harder than developing a winning culture, I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

But you need both, the culture of an organization shows when adversity hits. Teams with good culture and talent win their way out of it. Teams with good culture and no talent, stay in it and handle it well without turning on each other. Teams with talent and no culture tend to self destruct in it.