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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 1 @ 12:15 PM ET
Looking for positives going into this next game, and I came up with the fact that Boston aren't rolling a line of Connor-Barzal-Boeser/Konecny.
- Feanor



I saw Craig Buttons mock from that season and he had Konecny 14 and Barzal 15. DeBrusk seems like a solid player but it is crazy they passed on Barzal 3 times.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 1 @ 12:21 PM ET
Agree 100%

Past Flyers star forwards like Clarke, Barber, Propp, Brindamour, Roenick, Gagne, Forsberg etc.. all played their asses off in all 3 zones. And even guys who sometimes lapsed on D like a Rick Macleish or Giroux, still were at least solid defensively and they would always turn it up in a big game situation. Jake needs to be better with his combo of speed, size and strength there is absolutely no excuse for him to be such a poor defensive player.

As far as I'm concerned its laziness and it shows a lack of commitment to winning. I really wish the next time he dogs it on D, the coach will have the balls to staple his ass to the bench for at least a period or so.

- BiggE


So many opportunities to make an example of jake and sit him for so many defensive lapses. It's too late with this coach, he's let it go on.

As a coach in developmental seasons everyone needs to be held accountable for their effort on their ice. Young players are held accountable for their mistakes, that's all that happens around here.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 1 @ 12:31 PM ET
The best player Hexy has added to the roster over the bulk of his tenure has been Michael Del Zotto. 4 off seasons. It's no wonder they are where they're at.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 1 @ 12:32 PM ET
[Coach Ian Laperriere is] also the "rehab/ healthy scratch" skating overseer; a dungeon-master of sorts but one players don't mind because they like him so much.
- bmeltzer



I figured you were an old-school gamer, Bill. Which was your game: Holmes D&D, Moldvay/Cook B/X D&D, Advanced D&D, or White Box original D&D?

If ever I run into Lappy, I am calling him a dungeon master!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 1 @ 12:39 PM ET
Last time the Flyers had a 10 game losing streak they made the playoffs

They got 2 out of 20 points during the losing streak

- YuenglingJagr



Made the ECF, too.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Dec 1 @ 12:43 PM ET
Yup, pretty much. JFC, all he has to do is watch the way his current center plays if he needs a "how to" example.
- BiggE

We need Jagr back, just to show him how to protect the puck, once more.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
We need Jagr back, just to show him how to protect the puck, once more.


- Flyskippy

This makes me feel all tingly inside
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
Sidney Crosby is a perfect example. World class offensive player who didn't have to do anything but keep on scoring to be considered the best player in the league. He was criticized for his faceoff ability. Became a top faceoff guy. Has worked to become a strong defensive forward.
- MJL


Kessel is a perfect example of a player who was run out of town and sold for nickels on the dollar in part because he supposedly didn't care about playing defense.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:47 PM ET
The best player Hexy has added to the roster over the bulk of his tenure has been Michael Del Zotto. 4 off seasons. It's no wonder they are where they're at.
- Just5


I'd say it was Gudas, not MDZ, if we're ignoring drafted players like Provorov.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
Kessel is a perfect example of a player who was run out of town and sold for nickels on the dollar in part because he supposedly didn't care about playing defense.
- Feanor


Now, Phil is everyone's favorite fat, goofy uncle.

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
Now, Phil is everyone's favorite fat, goofy uncle.


- johndewar


MY EYES!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'd say it was Gudas, not MDZ, if we're ignoring drafted players like Provorov.
- Feanor

It's Filppula....he caused Coots to be more comfortable as the 3C, where he belongs
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:10 PM ET
It's Filppula....he caused Coots to be more comfortable as the 3C, where he belongs
- YuenglingJagr


Sean Christopher Charles Couturier.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:20 PM ET
It's Filppula....he caused Coots to be more comfortable as the 3C, where he belongs
- YuenglingJagr

Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Dec 1 @ 2:28 PM ET
Did we trade Weise for McDavid yet?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Did we trade Weise for McDavid yet?
- Buzzo


No, Edmonton refused throw in a 6th.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
No, Edmonton refused throw in a 6th.
- jmatchett383

More egg on Chiarelli's face
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 1 @ 2:42 PM ET
That's not how you spell "everything is litrilly terrible"
- BiggE

Thank you for that
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
More egg on Chiarelli's face
- YuenglingJagr



Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:44 PM ET
Riding the wave of positive, at least Myers didn't get a concussion. That would've been pretty much if it was.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 2:56 PM ET
You're conflating improvement with becoming top players. There is a whole lot of room between the two for young players. There is tons of room for improvement with this team. We'll have to see what happens but I don't know how you can say that there won't be much of an improvement this season. There better be or some changes need to be made.
- MJL

This post confused me a bit from someone who feels that the coach really has no influence on players cause they make a lot of money and should self improve/motivate themselves.
So is the coach now responsible for fulfilling the "tons of improvement" and if not look at changes?
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
Last time the Flyers had a 10 game losing streak they made the playoffs

They got 2 out of 20 points during the losing streak

- YuenglingJagr
what year? curious to know team makeup?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
This post confused me a bit from someone who feels that the coach really has no influence on players cause they make a lot of money and should self improve/motivate themselves.
So is the coach now responsible for fulfilling the "tons of improvement" and if not look at changes?

- Konalover

Oooohhhh now ya done it!!
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yup, pretty much. JFC, all he has to do is watch the way his current center plays if he needs a "how to" example.
- BiggE

Or is Coots an enabler for laziness in d zone?
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
It always annoys me when a player with top skill and talent can't (or won't) play defense.

IMO opinion they are the ones who should be the best defensive players simply because they are better than everyone else. Where is the pride?

I know it is a different sport, but Michael Jordan was the best offensive AND defensive player in the league for how many years? He should be the example for players in EVERY sport where you play both ways.

Pavel Datyuk, Zetterberg, Bergeron?

Jake has the skating ability, speed, size, and skill to be a tremendous defensive player. And what maddens me more is there have been times where he was.

- MBFlyerfan
Well said!!!
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