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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:16 PM ET
-MJL'd
- Lip_Out

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
I agree with regards to the outcome of that game. I was looking at in a broader overall sense.
- MJL

Do you believe in conspiracy's?
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Dec 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
KEENAN TO THE FLYERS!!!

arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:20 PM ET
Sam Carchidi:

#Flyers GM Ron Hextall is on the Western Canada trip, which MAY be critical for Dave Hakstol’s future.

Let’s hope boys, let’s hope.
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Dec 3 @ 3:21 PM ET
Because it's irrelevant. Only difference is the score is now 3-1. With the way they were playing you couldn't even sell me a "momentum swing " argument.
- Pelle31Forever


It's not irrelevant if you're a fan of watching exciting hockey, first and foremost. If that call is the standard, and it seems like it is based on recent precedence, I would say it is bad for the game.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:27 PM ET
Sam Carchidi:

#Flyers GM Ron Hextall is on the Western Canada trip, which MAY be critical for Dave Hakstol’s future.

Let’s hope boys, let’s hope.

- arichardson22

Beat you last time, I think the boys could help you out again.
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Dec 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
Sam Carchidi:

#Flyers GM Ron Hextall is on the Western Canada trip, which MAY be critical for Dave Hakstol’s future.

Let’s hope boys, let’s hope.

- arichardson22


Dont think Flyers problem are down to Hakstol except if it was him who recommended
Elliott,Weise and Lehtera
Also in my view they are already out of PP picture alone on the numbers in Metro
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
Morgan Frost has two apples so far, it's the second period.

MJL is my son but Morgan Frost is my boy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
It's not irrelevant if you're a fan of watching exciting hockey, first and foremost. If that call is the standard, and it seems like it is based on recent precedence, I would say it is bad for the game.
- The_Journeyman



Absolutely. How many goals have been scored where there is minor contact with the goalie in the crease? Now all of those are going to be challenged and overturned, even if the contact had zero to do with the goal being scored? Not in the spirit of the game in my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
-MJL'd
- Lip_Out


Reduced.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:30 PM ET
Morgan Frost has two apples so far, it's the second period.

MJL is my son but Morgan Frost is my boy.

- Lip_Out

The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Dec 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Absolutely. How many goals have been scored where there is minor contact with the goalie in the crease? Now all of those are going to be challenged and overturned, even if the contact had zero to do with the goal being scored? Not in the spirit of the game in my opinion.
- MJL


It is concerning how much officiating seems to be focused now on the letter of the rule instead of the intent of the rule. Disallowed goals is the tip of the iceberg. Offsides, pucks over the glass, stick infractions, illegal contact, etc. Referees are judges, and should be expected to make judgement calls based on the rules and the betterment of the game.

In the past, when referees were expected to make judgement calls when applying the rules, even when I disagreed with the call it more often than not added excitement to the game. Now it is boring and frustrating.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
It is concerning how much officiating seems to be focused now on the letter of the rule instead of the intent of the rule. Disallowed goals is the tip of the iceberg. Offsides, pucks over the glass, stick infractions, illegal contact, etc. Referees are judges, and should be expected to make judgement calls based on the rules and the betterment of the game.

In the past, when referees were expected to make judgement calls when applying the rules, even when I disagreed with the call it more often than not added excitement to the game. Now it is boring and frustrating.

- The_Journeyman


I really think the NHL needs to look at some of these rules. The puck over the glass rule is meant to penalize a team for intentionally shooting the puck out of play to avoid pressure. So many times a player doesn't even have possession of the puck but just chips at it or swats at the puck in the air and it goes out of play. Or in the case where Raffl was trying to clear the puck down the ice by spinning around and firing it. If the puck sails over the glass outside of the defensive zone or in those other cases when the player doesn't have clear possession, it shouldn't be a penalty.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
I agree with regards to the outcome of that game. I was looking at in a broader overall sense.
- MJL


In regards to the call and the rule, I'm with you 100%. If that's goalie interference, I want to see that minimal contact called every time from now on.
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Dec 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
I really think the NHL needs to look at some of these rules. The puck over the glass rule is meant to penalize a team for intentionally shooting the puck out of play to avoid pressure. So many times a player doesn't even have possession of the puck but just chips at it or swats at the puck in the air and it goes out of play. Or in the case where Raffl was trying to clear the puck down the ice by spinning around and firing it. If the puck sails over the glass outside of the defensive zone or in those other cases when the player doesn't have clear possession, it shouldn't be a penalty.
- MJL


Exactly.
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Dec 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
In regards to the call and the rule, I'm with you 100%. If that's goalie interference, I want to see that minimal contact called every time from now on.
- Pelle31Forever


I understand the sentiment, but I don't want it to be called that way at all. Ever.
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
I really think the NHL needs to look at some of these rules. The puck over the glass rule is meant to penalize a team for intentionally shooting the puck out of play to avoid pressure. So many times a player doesn't even have possession of the puck but just chips at it or swats at the puck in the air and it goes out of play. Or in the case where Raffl was trying to clear the puck down the ice by spinning around and firing it. If the puck sails over the glass outside of the defensive zone or in those other cases when the player doesn't have clear possession, it shouldn't be a penalty.
- MJL

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Sam Carchidi:

#Flyers GM Ron Hextall is on the Western Canada trip, which MAY be critical for Dave Hakstol’s future.

Let’s hope boys, let’s hope.

- arichardson22

He just wants to welcome Dustin Brown to the Flyers himself.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
I understand the sentiment, but I don't want it to be called that way at all. Ever.
- The_Journeyman


Unfortunately those refs opened that can of worms. We scream for consistency all the time. You can bet your bottom dollar a player's elbow will nip a goalie's glove over the course of this season. Will they make the call? We'll see.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
[quote=Lip_Out]
I like this.
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Dec 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
Unfortunately those refs opened that can of worms. We scream for consistency all the time. You can bet your bottom dollar a player's elbow will nip a goalie's glove over the course of this season. Will they make the call? We'll see.
- Pelle31Forever


I hope it's one of those things that they never admit to changing but just don't call it that way anymore. Just like the toe in the crease rule in 1999.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
[quote=Giroux_Is_God]
Awesomeness, pure awesomeness
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
In regards to the call and the rule, I'm with you 100%. If that's goalie interference, I want to see that minimal contact called every time from now on.
- Pelle31Forever


How much does anyone want to bet that there will be other challenged goals where the same kind of meaningless contact will be made with a goalie and the goal will be allowed to stand?
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
How much does anyone want to bet that there will be other challenged goals where the same kind of meaningless contact will be made with a goalie and the goal will be allowed to stand?
- MJL

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 3 @ 4:07 PM ET
Sam Carchidi:

#Flyers GM Ron Hextall is on the Western Canada trip, which MAY be critical for Dave Hakstol’s future.

Let’s hope boys, let’s hope.

- arichardson22


Is it even irregular for the GM to join the team on multi game road trips?
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