They have this year to improve or hasktol is gone. If we miss the playoffs this year and next I think hextall will be gone. You might get an extra year for him.. you can't go 5 years with crap results and keep your job especially not in this town
- Tfaehner

Hextall sold this management on a 5 year build he'll get two seasons after this one.

I can't speak for the team but in my opinion I have to see significant progress the rest of the season or I would make a coaching change. Hextall isn't going anywhere in my opinion. I see him being the teams GM for the next decade.
- MJL

And if his next coach doesn't work out ? If his big contracts to guys like Jake gost don't pan out ? Of the prospects don't work out ? Than what ? I think he has 5 years. If there's not significant progress I think he's out. And I can promise you fans won't buy seats from consistent losers.

And if his next coach doesn't work out ? If his big contracts to guys like Jake gost don't pan out ? Of the prospects don't work out ? Than what ? I think he has 5 years. If there's not significant progress I think he's out. And I can promise you fans won't buy seats from consistent losers.
- Tfaehner

The Flyers fans are always around. Did you disagree with giving Voracek his contract? Gostibehere his?

You CAN"T just build an entire team thru your draft picks. Its an asinine plan. You need to draft, bring up your prospects when ready and develop them, as well as finding the right pieces thru trades and FA signings to mix in with the up and coming players. Not bring in the Weise's and Lehtera's of the world and plug in Amacs and Mannings.

This team when you watch them on the ice have ZERO idea of what the (frank) they are doing out there. The breakdowns in our end are horrific, the simple passes are a struggle, but a big noticeable problem is offensively everyone looks to be doing their own thing and have no clue how to use each other out there.

Hextall sold this management on a 5 year build he'll get two seasons after this one.
- dragonoffrost

I think a lot depends on that 5 years. I think he will get 4 IF his next coach also doesn't work out and there is no progress to being a playoff team. Why would we let him have a 5th year if he can't hire a coaching staff or do anything other than draft well (which i attribute more to Pryor)

You CAN"T just build an entire team thru your draft picks. Its an asinine plan. You need to draft, bring up your prospects when ready and develop them, as well as finding the right pieces thru trades and FA signings to mix in with the up and coming players. Not bring in the Weise's and Lehtera's of the world and plug in Amacs and Mannings.

This team when you watch them on the ice have ZERO idea of what the (frank) they are doing out there. The breakdowns in our end are horrific, the simple passes are a struggle, but a big noticeable problem is offensively everyone looks to be doing their own thing and have no clue how to use each other out there.
- Buzzo

They don't plan on building the entire team through the draft. It will be the main method of team building. Once they get to the point where they're moving into contender status and see how the prospects develop, then that's when Hextall is likely to use a surplus at one position to trade to improve a weakness or use free agency in a bigger deal to fill a hole when he feels the team is in a position to go for it.

They don't plan on building the entire team through the draft. It will be the main method of team building. Once they get to the point where they're moving into contender status and see how the prospects develop, then that's when Hextall is likely to use a surplus at one position to trade to improve a weakness or use free agency in a bigger deal to fill a hole when he feels the team is in a position to go for it.
- MJL

Basically the Kings method. The problem I don't like with that is just how much of their success can be attributed to Quick playing absolutely out of his mind and also having a Jeff Carter in the prime of his career basically fall into their laps.

They don't plan on building the entire team through the draft. It will be the main method of team building. Once they get to the point where they're moving into contender status and see how the prospects develop, then that's when Hextall is likely to use a surplus at one position to trade to improve a weakness or use free agency in a bigger deal to fill a hole when he feels the team is in a position to go for it.
- MJL

And here is the kicker none of the plugs that people moan about daily will be here when he's ready for that phase.

The Flyers fans are always around. Did you disagree with giving Voracek his contract? Gostibehere his?
- MJL

Yes on both. I've never been a huge fan of jake. I've gone back and forth with plenty of this board about him. I was team bridge contract for gost. I like him but didn't think he earned a big contract.

The team is losing money every passing week. If this doesn't get righted they will continue to. We aren't talking about the old die hard generations of hockey the new generation my generation first doesn't even like hockey that much and second won't stand for a losing team. I love hockey but I don't have many friends who do.

I also look at this team and think how do we develop our guys ? Our coaches stink and our veterans are too concerned with their own play and playing time to help the rookies. As they should be because every veteran outside coots has made a long list of problems. Look at how we developed wentz. Surrounded him with qb gurus who worked with him on everything. 3 ex qbs. They also brought in quality veteran back ups. They taught him how to use his eyes a hard count etc. Kids a stud now. Whose developing our guys like that ? Currently nobody.

Basically the Kings method. The problem I don't like with that is just how much of their success can be attributed to Quick playing absolutely out of his mind and also having a Jeff Carter in the prime of his career basically fall into their laps.
- hereticpride

Hart or Sandstrom is Hextall's Quick. At least that's his plan

And here is the kicker none of the plugs that people moan about daily will be here when he's ready for that phase.
- dragonoffrost

Exactly which is why I don't see a reason to get all worked up about it. I'm as frustrated as anyone with the current team. They flat out stink. I had to fight from falling asleep at one point. What I keep focused on is the future and while there is plenty I can criticize for right now, I know that they have a strong plan for the future.

Hart or Sandstrom is Hextall's Quick. At least that's his plan
- dragonoffrost

Hart has the potential imo to be way better than quick. I said it.

Feel free to show me where Hextall when asked about the future of the team and what his team building approach is discussed how he would handle a ten game losing streak. He has held true to his philosophy and plan. Despite how the team is currently playing it is still the right approach and one that he should not abandon due to how the team is currently playing. Hextall also stated that if he can he will improve the team now if he can do so without giving up the future.
- MJL

How could I show you ? “Pretty sure he DIDNT say”. The rest is your simple opinion.

Hart has the potential imo to be way better than quick. I said it.
- Tfaehner

Which means 2 years

Basically the Kings method. The problem I don't like with that is just how much of their success can be attributed to Quick playing absolutely out of his mind and also having a Jeff Carter in the prime of his career basically fall into their laps.
- hereticpride

Every team that wins a Cup has to have players that step up. Didn't the Flyers just have Nolan Patrick fall into their lap? Remember how excited everyone was when that happened? A 10 game losing streak ends that? Remember how they were going to easily replace Schenn's scoring? Now we see that isn't true right now! That might change in the future though. Frustration is understandable but can't lose sight of the big picture. That's my viewpoint.

Which means 2 years
- dragonoffrost

I don't see him in the Nhl until 2021. Sandstrom likely sooner.

You CAN"T just build an entire team thru your draft picks. Its an asinine plan. You need to draft, bring up your prospects when ready and develop them, as well as finding the right pieces thru trades and FA signings to mix in with the up and coming players. Not bring in the Weise's and Lehtera's of the world and plug in Amacs and Mannings.

This team when you watch them on the ice have ZERO idea of what the (frank) they are doing out there. The breakdowns in our end are horrific, the simple passes are a struggle, but a big noticeable problem is offensively everyone looks to be doing their own thing and have no clue how to use each other out there.
- Buzzo

The most impactful player hextall has brought has been Mdz. Over 4 offseasons. Some say gudas but you lost a coburn in the deal.

The most net positive move has been adding mdz. I should’ve saw this coming

I still agree with it haha. F it if your going to suck suck it hard for the draft

Yes on both. I've never been a huge fan of jake. I've gone back and forth with plenty of this board about him. I was team bridge contract for gost. I like him but didn't think he earned a big contract.

The team is losing money every passing week. If this doesn't get righted they will continue to. We aren't talking about the old die hard generations of hockey the new generation my generation first doesn't even like hockey that much and second won't stand for a losing team. I love hockey but I don't have many friends who do.

I also look at this team and think how do we develop our guys ? Our coaches stink and our veterans are too concerned with their own play and playing time to help the rookies. As they should be because every veteran outside coots has made a long list of problems. Look at how we developed wentz. Surrounded him with qb gurus who worked with him on everything. 3 ex qbs. They also brought in quality veteran back ups. They taught him how to use his eyes a hard count etc. Kids a stud now. Whose developing our guys like that ? Currently nobody.
- Tfaehner

Wentz was a stud when they drafted him. That's football.

It takes time to develop most young NHL defenseman. In my opinion, Sanheim is a future stud. Provorov is already a stud. Hagg is a solid player who will only get better. Konecny is still only 20. Patrick is 20, in his first NHL season and is still getting back from his injuries that set him back. It takes time.

How could I show you ? “Pretty sure he DIDNT say”. The rest is your simple opinion.
- landros 2

You made that comment, I just called you on it. We're all just giving our simple opinions. My opinion is based on Hextall's repeated comments on what his approach is.

Yes on both. I've never been a huge fan of jake. I've gone back and forth with plenty of this board about him. I was team bridge contract for gost. I like him but didn't think he earned a big contract.

The team is losing money every passing week. If this doesn't get righted they will continue to. We aren't talking about the old die hard generations of hockey the new generation my generation first doesn't even like hockey that much and second won't stand for a losing team. I love hockey but I don't have many friends who do.

I also look at this team and think how do we develop our guys ? Our coaches stink and our veterans are too concerned with their own play and playing time to help the rookies. As they should be because every veteran outside coots has made a long list of problems. Look at how we developed wentz. Surrounded him with qb gurus who worked with him on everything. 3 ex qbs. They also brought in quality veteran back ups. They taught him how to use his eyes a hard count etc. Kids a stud now. Whose developing our guys like that ? Currently nobody.
- Tfaehner

At this point everything coaching is on the table. From the phantoms on up. I’m skeptical.

You made that ridiculous comment, I just called you on it. We're all just giving our simple opinions.
- MJL

Called me on it? You really are out in left field. You continue to interpret Hextall and Hakstol comments that they don’t say....but in your world it’s what they mean. I gave my “opinion” about Hex and Hacks future...disagree ...I could care less. I have seen enough failures and bad judgements to form my opinion.

Called me on it? You really are out in left field. You continue to interpret Hextall and Hakstol comments that they don’t say....but in your world it’s what they mean. I gave my “opinion” about Hex and Hacks future...disagree ...I could care less. I have seen enough failures and bad judgements to form my opinion.
- landros 2

What Hextall has repeatedly said about his approach to team building is public record. Your claims that I'm interpreting what isn't said is not only false but again ridiculous. I'm thankful that Hextall appears to be far more level headed than most fans are. Not that here is anything wrong with fans getting emotional because that is normal but it clouds judgement.

Real boost of confidence for Konecny too I bet. One of the best forwards on the team this game , well time to ride the bench for a period. That is a clueless move by Hakstol.
- FreshFlyer

Would you rather have him play and lets say, be a small difference in a meaningless game or rather be instructed to develop good habits for the future when we are counting on him to carry a larger share of the load? What is more important?

This tweet bares repeating again. They need to do something.

Adam Gretz
@AGretz
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4h
It's been nearly a calendar year since the Flyers' 10-game winning streak ended.

This is their 76th game since then.

They have won only 28 of them.

That is ... bad.

What Hextall has repeatedly said about his approach to team building is public record. Your claims that I'm interpreting what isn't said is not only false but again ridiculous. I'm thankful that Hextall appears to be far more level headed than most fans are. Not that here is anything wrong with fans getting emotional because that is normal but it clouds judgement.
- MJL

I’d prefer if he was a little less level headed and didn’t ice one of the most embarrassing Flyer teams in franchise history. That’s just me. Continue to be his chief apologist all you want, but the team he’s responsible for blows. No emotion ...just facts.