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robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
Definitely recommend watching Icarus on netflix, banning russia a no brainer
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 5 @ 1:59 PM ET
Did ERod earn it? Or did ROR & Sam lose it?

or BOTH?!

- feetontheair22


The latter methinks. ERod did well in his few games down on the farm, but I do think this is more of a message for RoR/Samson.
StaziakAttack
Location: Blasdell, NY
Joined: 02.04.2014

Dec 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
https://t.co/JJjvc1ce6Z

Good piece on CJ Smith in Rochester...

The one thing that I liked was what he said at the end..."looking at Pittsburgh pretty much every guy played in the AHL at some point in their career"

Wait a minute, didn't I say that like 3-4 days ago??

- Stripes77


CJ is wrong about Pittsburgh. Pens have 4 skaters that played a full season or more in SWB, Kuhnackl, Rownwy, Sheary and Dumolin (spelling). Sabres have the same - Gergenson, Larsson, Pomminville and E Rod. AHL development is highly overrated. If a draft pick has to play in the "A" for more than full season there is a very low chance he will be a difference maker in the NHL.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
He has issues. The breakaways are infuriating and usually I say if there's a breakaway, it was someone else's fault before the goaltender's. At the same point, I don't see him being here long term, yet I would wager once he leaves if he went to a playoff team he would put up starting caliber numbers. He has put up decent numbers on tire fire teams, as you said in different words, the better team, the better the numbers.

You may be right about moving on, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has a lot more success on the team he goes to if they're a playoff caliber squad.

- RhinoFan


I think he’s a starting caliber goalie that will get beat by a better goalie in the playoffs
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account
@pham1717
Lines. 9 15 29. 20 71 21. 67 90 24. 17 22 23

ROR is a third liner and Sam a 4th

- GilPerreault11



ROR reminds me of a guy who appreciates a participation trophy

I want to like Sam, but my eyes tell me he wants out

I like these moves, if anyone gives a sh I t
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
CJ is wrong about Pittsburgh. Pens have 4 skaters that played a full season or more in SWB, Kuhnackl, Rownwy, Sheary and Dumolin (spelling). Sabres have the same - Gergenson, Larsson, Pomminville and E Rod. AHL development is highly overrated. If a draft pick has to play in the "A" for more than full season there is a very low chance he will be a difference maker in the NHL.
- StaziakAttack



Soooo you're telling me there's a chance?
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
CJ is wrong about Pittsburgh. Pens have 4 skaters that played a full season or more in SWB, Kuhnackl, Rownwy, Sheary and Dumolin (spelling). Sabres have the same - Gergenson, Larsson, Pomminville and E Rod. AHL development is highly overrated. If a draft pick has to play in the "A" for more than full season there is a very low chance he will be a difference maker in the NHL.
- StaziakAttack



This is from last year

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
This is from last year


- adambuffalo



Thank you...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
This is from last year


- adambuffalo



This chart confuses me
How do teams have 27 guys on the roster opening night?
U aren’t allowed to have that many

And what counts as “AHL development” anyways?
Does it have to be a full season, or is it just some time spent in the AHL?
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
And this is from last year's finals

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ons/teams/0000331998.html

hasek was 10 games over .500 with this roster


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:22 PM ET
This is from last year


- adambuffalo


Tampa, St Louis, San Jose, NyR, Washington & Chicago...
all in the bottom10

Yet over the last 5years or so they’re among the top10 teams on a yearly basis

Idk what this chart is actually saying?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Dec 5 @ 2:24 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000331998.html

hasek was 10 games over .500 with this roster

- homiedclown


Why doesn't GMJB just find and sign a goalie like Hasek, I don't get it
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
Tampa, St Louis, San Jose, NyR, Washington & Chicago...
all in the bottom10

Yet over the last 5years or so they’re among the top10 teams on a yearly basis

Idk what this chart is actually saying?

- jdfitz77



Basically saying the AHL is important to development but not the absolute.

Some teams like Tampa has guys who played overseas and made the jump to the NHL.

Some teams have the Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, Crosby etc that don't spend time in the AHL.

But almost every player that isn't a perennial All-Star spends time in the AHL
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000331998.html

hasek was 10 games over .500 with this roster

- homiedclown


That's why I argue save% is the most overrated stat. GAA is the truer stat. Can you keep the f uck in puck out of the net.

This team was much worse than our current team BTW, yet Hasek carried them
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
ROR reminds me of a guy who appreciates a participation trophy

I want to like Sam, but my eyes tell me he wants out

I like these moves, if anyone gives a sh I t

- washedup20


Jochfr does, obviously, as he had his pooptnig pants on already last night.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
Basically saying the AHL is important to development but not the absolute.

Some teams like Tampa has guys who played overseas and made the jump to the NHL.

Some teams have the Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, Crosby etc that don't spend time in the AHL.

But almost every player that isn't a perennial All-Star spends time in the AHL

- Stripes77


So then what’s the argument here is what I’m getting at?

I thought everything u just said was common knowledge
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
That's why I argue save% is the most overrated stat. GAA is the truer stat. Can you keep the f uck in puck out of the net.

This team was much worse than our current team BTW, yet Hasek carried them

- lulags

that team was satan and peca up front and a bunch of bums

surely eichel, ror, kane, okposo, reinhart are better than derek plants and brian holzinger


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
That's why I argue save% is the most overrated stat. GAA is the truer stat. Can you keep the f uck in puck out of the net.

This team was much worse than our current team BTW, yet Hasek carried them

- lulags



100% false

GAA is more of a team indicator than an individual stat

GAA is like a +/- stat for a player
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
Why doesn't GMJB just find and sign a goalie like Hasek, I don't get it
- washedup20



look at the habs record with price vs w/o



the right goalie makes a difference


sad thing is it's hard to find that goalie


we all should be able to agree lehner is not that guy though
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
So then what’s the argument here is what I’m getting at?

I thought everything u just said was common knowledge

- jdfitz77



Nope there was an argument a few days ago with another poster who said that playing in the AHL or winning in the AHL doesn't matter.

When clearly teams feel that's the best place for a player to develop.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 5 @ 2:30 PM ET
that team was satan and peca up front and a bunch of bums

surely eichel, ror, kane, okposo, reinhart are better than derek plants and brian holzinger

- homiedclown



However that team is scoring more than the Eichel, Kane, ROR, Okposo, Reinhart (who is playing worse than Derek Plante)
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
100% false

GAA is more of a team indicator than an individual stat

GAA is like a +/- stat for a player

- Stripes77

dom had one blah year here, 95-96


2.83 GAA vs the usual 1.87 to 2.27 gaa


yet his save % only dipped from normal .930 to .920


adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Dec 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
that team was satan and peca up front and a bunch of bums

surely eichel, ror, kane, okposo, reinhart are better than derek plants and brian holzinger

- homiedclown



That team had Ray, May, Barnaby and Bougner too. It was a different era. Although I wouldn't mind having more toughness on the current team.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Dec 5 @ 2:33 PM ET
Nope there was an argument a few days ago with another poster who said that playing in the AHL or winning in the AHL doesn't matter.

When clearly teams feel that's the best place for a player to develop.

- Stripes77


Correction. It has no direct impact to how good a player is in the NHL.

players don't "get good" by playing in the AHL.
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