Yea I agree. Call it what you will but Botteril clearly wanted to focus on winning in Rochester first. That was his gameplan. You need to develope a winning culture at that level and create competition for roster spots on the big club. Im 100% behind this plan.
- MCGUIZZY

I was 50/50 but it worked for him so I'll buy in

nothing specific, just that change is coming...when the little (jail) bird is done serving his time, i'm sure he'll offer this thread more...

however, that's two people who've mentioned ror...i'm inclined to believe that buffalo39 came on here, he'd probably tell us he's hearing the same thing
- Michael Pachla

I forgot how fantastic chiquorin has been for this franchise.

nothing specific, just that change is coming...when the little (jail) bird is done serving his time, i'm sure he'll offer this thread more...

however, that's two people who've mentioned ror...i'm inclined to believe that buffalo39 came on here, he'd probably tell us he's hearing the same thing
- Michael Pachla

Position wise it doesn't make sense but current production and salary wise it does, as does his potential return. Just that if he gets dealt center skill wise looks meek.

Im not sure we should be getting too excited. Deals of this magnitude take time and more often than not fall apart.
- Sabresfan-365

you are correct...we'll see

That's a dangerous assumption based on a heavy amount of conjecture.

There's zero evidence that there are sides. And if you're trading ror, it's certainly not because those two don't see eye to eye.
- TheSabresTaco

Maybe I just like ROR more than most but I literally don't see any other explanation for wanting to move him right now. (key word being now)

Losing Kane and O'Reilly this year would be horrible. I get that we're bad now, but there's no argument that makes sense that we'll be better without them. We are barreling toward a 10 year rebuild. God help us
- jcragcrumple

Sure but you arent "losing" them for nothing.

Maybe I just like ROR more than most but I literally don't see any other explanation for wanting to move him right now. (key word being now)
- Sabresfan-365

I don't see an argument other than salary. He s a nice second line center. We will be terrible for years without him. If they want to clear cap, use assets to move Moulson, Bogo and Okposo and let Gorges walk. Boom I just cleared 20 million dollars

Maybe I just like ROR more than most but I literally don't see any other explanation for wanting to move him right now. (key word being now)
- Sabresfan-365

It's a rumor I haven't seen anywhere except here. Sure it's possible he's moved, but if you're trading him, you better be getting a boat load back. I mean, that's a big league statement and would be a seismic shift to that room. He still has high value, teams aren't stupid. We'll see I guess.

Losing Kane and O'Reilly this year would be horrible. I get that we're bad now, but there's no argument that makes sense that we'll be better without them. We are barreling toward a 10 year rebuild. God help us
- jcragcrumple

It's a rumor I haven't seen anywhere except here. Sure it's possible he's moved, but if you're trading him, you better be getting a boat load back. I mean, that's a big league statement and would be a seismic shift to that room. He still has high value, teams aren't stupid. We'll see I guess.
- TheSabresTaco

oh my dude... let me tell you a little story about a man named peter chiarelli

Position wise it doesn't make sense but current production and salary wise it does, as does his potential return. Just that if he gets dealt center skill wise looks meek.
- GilPerreault11

botts is a capologist and these contracts have got to be eating away at him, especially with the (non) results he's seen thus far...he won't be able to put a real stamp on the sabres while carrying those big-ass salaries

I think he wanted to help the organization more than impatient fans. If thats what keeping them in the AHL and getting a high draft pick does for us I can stomach it
- Sabresfan-365

I’m not discounting that
I actually agree with it

A lot of ppl were expecting Guhle to be in the top4 this season & I was saying he should at least start in Rochester

Similarly,
I’ve said I think Mittelstadt will likely play in Rochester as well

But, while I agree that’s a good way to go...
if the Leafs & Devils did that then they’d have missed the playoffs

So both ways can work

Just don’t punish the LEGIT players that are here playing on a team that was put together to “get a high pick this year”

You spelled Noah Hanifin wrong.
- TheSabresTaco

Hanifin leads all NHL defensemen in even strength points per 60.

So, no.

I don't see an argument other than salary. He s a nice second line center. We will be terrible for years without him. If they want to clear cap, use assets to move Moulson, Bogo and Okposo and let Gorges walk. Boom I just cleared 20 million dollars
- jcragcrumple

jcrag for GM. I had no idea it was that easy. I'm sending in my application today.

Maybe I just like ROR more than most but I literally don't see any other explanation for wanting to move him right now. (key word being now)
- Sabresfan-365

The explanation may be due to something behind closed doors. Maybe he wants out. I always got the feeling he wanted to be captain here. Maybe a power struggle?

Who knows but if hes moved im assuming we bring back a guy that fits the uptempo style a little more.

Reinhart and a pick for Faulk
- Sabresfan-365

Probably pass. Not sure the pick moves the needle much at this point.

Hanifin leads all NHL defensemen in even strength points per 60.

So, no.
- BINGO!

So you spell his name wrong and recant the offer? Good on ya bruh

We don't need depth, we need NHL Caliber players, Wilson is not one of them.
- hehateme

Yeah he just played on a line with Malkin and Kessel last year and did well to compliment them.

I don't see an argument other than salary. He s a nice second line center. We will be terrible for years without him. If they want to clear cap, use assets to move Moulson, Bogo and Okposo and let Gorges walk. Boom I just cleared 20 million dollars
- jcragcrumple

Even then, the obvious candidates are your dead weight guys. The ones where you don't care what comes back as long as all the salary leaves. Not really the case here.

It may not be a split locker room but I think it's about more than just on ice factors if that makes sense.

I don't see an argument other than salary. He s a nice second line center. We will be terrible for years without him. If they want to clear cap, use assets to move Moulson, Bogo and Okposo and let Gorges walk. Boom I just cleared 20 million dollars
- jcragcrumple

This team is terrible on D. I guess I like Bogo a bit more than most and don't put him in the same category as Moulson, Georges or right now Okposo due to position and skills.

Probably pass. Not sure the pick moves the needle much at this point.
- BINGO!

Reinhart+d-man for Faulk+forward?

This team is terrible on D. I guess I like Bogo a bit more than most and don't put him in the same category as Moulson, Georges or right now Okposo due to position and skills.
- GilPerreault11

I hate him and even i'd put him ahead of the first two.

The explanation may be due to something behind closed doors. Maybe he wants out. I always got the feeling he wanted to be captain here. Maybe a power struggle?

Who knows but if hes moved im assuming we bring back a guy that fits the uptempo style a little more.
- MCGUIZZY

I always figured this too, it was half the reason he wanted out of Colorado.

Reinhart+d-man for Faulk+forward?
- Sabresfan-365

Faulk and Phil Di Giuseppe for Reinhart and... Justin Falk? (because names)

jcrag for GM. I had no idea it was that easy. I'm sending in my application today.
- TheSabresTaco

I'm not saying it's easy, but it's doable. I just don't get the salary cap argument at all, anyway. It's not like they're going to run out of room next year.