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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Dec 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
I don't see them trading a forward mid-season. Maybe they'd move Pulock, but there is a massive drop-off from Nelson to Quine/Prince/whatever other godforsaken trash-bucket fills that spot.

Somehow, I don't see a long-term solution being addressed during this season. Too much uncertainty surrounding Tavares.

- eichiefs9

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
shane prince
- Upstate_isles




My bad. Memory is no good.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 6 @ 5:36 PM ET
I don't necessarily believe Gudbranson is the type of player that would fix our issues, but I do think he's an upgrade over everyone not named Leddy, Boychuk, or de Haan. Pulock's close, but Gudbranson would get the edge because of experience.

I still would prefer to see them go big and go after Ekman-Larsson, if Chayka makes him available.

- eichiefs9



He would be the prize.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Dec 6 @ 5:47 PM ET
He would be the prize.
- nyisles7

Beau, Pulock and BOTH first round picks......
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 5:56 PM ET
A team that covets CDH as a top pair d may trade for him and try to sign him before next July else this d will probably stand as it is. They have four months and a lot of games to play and improve their d play which is what every other team is doing. BUF is the team right now that is in reshape the team mode. Even ARI looks stand pat with the moves they made last June.

BTW Lee also played in the USHL for Jon Cooper.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
A team that covets CDH as a top pair d may trade for him and try to sign him before next July else this d will probably stand as it is. They have four months and a lot of games to play and improve their d play which is what every other team is doing. BUF is the team right now that is in reshape the team mode. Even ARI looks stand pat with the moves they made last June.

BTW Lee also played in the USHL for Jon Cooper.

- Fan101

A ton of these guys played in the ushl like top players
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 6 @ 6:43 PM ET
Beau, Pulock and BOTH first round picks......
- JohnScammo




Is OEL that good?
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
I don't think OEL buys you a cup. A trade like that can have a reverse effect like too much pressure to win, loss of depth etc. The team they have now can get you a top po seed and get to the second or third rd, after that its a crap shoot.

Tanner Fritz looks like another depth forward but good to see some depth coming from within the org.

Last night looked like they came within three minutes of making it out of the second period tied. Playing second of back to back would have made the third period a challenge but they could have gotten a point.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 6 @ 7:15 PM ET


Is OEL that good?

- ses111

Legit #1 d you have karrelson, doughty, Sutter, weber, faulk, keith, Hedman, pickle man, pieterangelo, letang, ellis, weber, josi, burns OEL and some others but he's a top guy

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
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Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Legit #1 d you have karrelson, doughty, Sutter, weber, faulk, keith, Hedman, pickle man, pieterangelo, letang, ellis, weber, josi, burns OEL and some others but he's a top guy
- Upstate_isles


Which is why the price would be high and the reason why ARI would keep him. Teams don't give away their top players.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Dec 6 @ 7:36 PM ET


Is OEL that good?

- ses111

I think so. He immediately moves into the top pairing, bumping Boychuk back with DeHaan.

After more than a decade of rebuilding, it's finally time for the Isles to adopt the win-now mentality. JT is in his prime, and may not even be here after this season. The alternative is to take the cautious approach, and hope for better things next season. I say go for it now.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Dec 6 @ 7:38 PM ET
Which is why the price would be high and the reason why ARI would keep him. Teams don't give away their top players.
- Fan101

Exactly. You need to make Arizona an offer that gets their attention. Two 1st rounders in a deep draft plus two solid prospects ought to do that.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:08 PM ET
I think so. He immediately moves into the top pairing, bumping Boychuk back with DeHaan.

After more than a decade of rebuilding, it's finally time for the Isles to adopt the win-now mentality. JT is in his prime, and may not even be here after this season. The alternative is to take the cautious approach, and hope for better things next season. I say go for it now.

- JohnScammo

We should all know what's going to happen at this point. Nothing. With that said I agree with you he needs to try and improve the team at this point if he wants to sign Tavares. He'll blame the arena and whatever excuse he can come up with but the bottom line is if this team doesn't have a year better than when Tavares started he's gone IMO.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Dec 6 @ 8:30 PM ET
I think so. He immediately moves into the top pairing, bumping Boychuk back with DeHaan.

After more than a decade of rebuilding, it's finally time for the Isles to adopt the win-now mentality. JT is in his prime, and may not even be here after this season. The alternative is to take the cautious approach, and hope for better things next season. I say go for it now.

- JohnScammo


Agreed JS this is what Snow should do, however as Cpt pointed out you have to question whether this is what we will get.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Dec 6 @ 8:43 PM ET
I think so. He immediately moves into the top pairing, bumping Boychuk back with DeHaan.

After more than a decade of rebuilding, it's finally time for the Isles to adopt the win-now mentality. JT is in his prime, and may not even be here after this season. The alternative is to take the cautious approach, and hope for better things next season. I say go for it now.

- JohnScammo


I think OEL needs to be signed if Isles are giving up 4 pieces.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:44 PM ET
Berube was just put net for the Hawks. Watch him shut the Caps down for the rest of the game.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:51 PM ET
I think OEL needs to be signed if Isles are giving up 4 pieces.
- ses111

Of course it'd be a sign and trade without a doubt.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:53 PM ET
Agreed JS this is what Snow should do, however as Cpt pointed out you have to question whether this is what we will get.
- nyisles7

Idk maybe this team can figure it out? I have my doubts but adding a defenseman and or a goaltender if these guys don't get their poop together wouldn't hurt and will send the right message. I've said that in the past, "send the right message." and Snow never has
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
Berube was just put net for the Hawks. Watch him shut the Caps down for the rest of the game.


- JimmyP

God speed blackhawks.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
Which is why the price would be high and the reason why ARI would keep him. Teams don't give away their top players.
- Fan101

They move them when they are not going to resign and they know it
ziggy_skalica
Joined: 07.11.2009

Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM ET
Berube was just put net for the Hawks. Watch him shut the Caps down for the rest of the game.


- JimmyP


He did only face 1 shot since coming in so there is a good chance of that happening
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
He did only face 1 shot since coming in so there is a good chance of that happening
- ziggy_skalica


If the Isles could play like that then they'd have at least 6 more wins.
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Dec 6 @ 10:11 PM ET
They move them when they are not going to resign and they know it
- Upstate_isles


But if you don't have the cap space to sign him for top pair money it becomes moot.
You want him here for a few years which is what they did already with Boychuk and Leddy.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Dec 6 @ 10:34 PM ET
But if you don't have the cap space to sign him for top pair money it becomes moot.
You want him here for a few years which is what they did already with Boychuk and Leddy.

- Fan101

He is better tban borh of them and if this is your window take it. They can score a ton of they can at d they have a shot and he can shut down a top guy in playoffs. Ladd and boychuk aren't getting younger. You get him for this year and next and have guys and picks on the system to step in
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