How so?
- jdfitz77

if ror was half the leader on the ice, that he is inside his head

reinhart would be a much better player

so would 8 or 9 other guys and this team would be on pace for 90 points instead of 60

I'd listen to offers on everyone with the big club
- homiedclown

Listening to offers is one thing
If it’s the right return, I’d trade anyone

I just don’t wanna trade good players for spare parts
That doesn’t make sense to me

So Eichel generating 99% of the primary assists and goals when he's on the ice means nothing? Good grief, you're picking on the good players.

Here's a list of real problems

Beaulieu
Antipin
Larsson
Girgensons
Moulson
Pominville playing in the top 6
Pouliot playing in the top 6
Bogos salary
Nolan
- jcragcrumple

if ror and eichel were these great players, we would be knocking on the door for playoffs in year 3


jack is half the player mathews is

ror right now is a 3rd line center paid to be a fringe number 1 center



why does ror show more heart and emotion for team canada than the team that plays him 7.5 mil per?

Listening to offers is one thing
If it’s the right return, I’d trade anyone

I just don’t wanna trade good players for spare parts
That doesn’t make sense to me
- jdfitz77

we are on pace for 60 points


not sure any player not named eichel or kane are good

if ror was half the leader on the ice, that he is inside his head

reinhart would be a much better player

so would 8 or 9 other guys and this team would be on pace for 90 points instead of 60
- homiedclown

Idk about all that
Sounds like you’re absolving Reinhart & others
If u really need to be “led” that badly at this level...
I don’t think that player is gonna be successful regardless

Imagine if we finished in 29th and picked 3rd the past few years.... ROR would be our 1st line center.

See the problem now? Our 1st line center is looking around at everyone else, expecting them to "do something" but then thinks he's the leader.... All while having more talent on his worst night than ROR has on his best night.

Meanwhile, our 2nd line center thinks he's a 1st line center, usually starts the game against the other team's top line, looks to himself to will the team into wins and can't, places blame on himself constantly and then thinks he's the leader... all the while not being that skilled or talented and in his best seasons is a 50-point player.

Can someone tell me why Derek Roy was so hated? The guy scored at just under a .ppg clip for the better part of 3 or 4 years, always back-checked and was our most consistent player not named Pominville until that quad injury.

The best center to play for the Buffalo Sabres in the past 10 years: Derek Roy.

Eichel and ROR aren't even close to Derek Roy production. Everyone's favorite whipping boy, Derek Roy had effort and stats that put both ROR and Eichel to shame right now.

if ror and eichel were these great players, we would be knocking on the door for playoffs in year 3


jack is half the player mathews is

ror right now is a 3rd line center paid to be a fringe number 1 center


why does ror show more heart and emotion for team canada than the team that plays him 7.5 mil per?
- homiedclown

So how do u feel about McDavid & Draisatil then?

How great is OEL if Arizona keeps being mediocre?

It’s a TEAM man
I just don’t see how your logic here makes sense

My unnecessary opinion:

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- thatsapickle

Really? That’s it?

Imagine if we finished in 29th and picked 3rd the past few years.... ROR would be our 1st line center.

See the problem now? Our 1st line center is looking around at everyone else, expecting them to "do something" but then thinks he's the leader.... All while having more talent on his worst night than ROR has on his best night.

Meanwhile, our 2nd line center thinks he's a 1st line center, usually starts the game against the other team's top line, looks to himself to will the team into wins and can't, places blame on himself constantly and then thinks he's the leader... all the while not being that skilled or talented and in his best seasons is a 50-point player.

Can someone tell me why Derek Roy was so hated? The guy scored at just under a .ppg clip for the better part of 3 or 4 years, always back-checked and was our most consistent player not named Pominville until that quad injury.

The best center to play for the Buffalo Sabres in the past 10 years: Derek Roy.

Eichel and ROR aren't even close to Derek Roy production. Everyone's favorite whipping boy, Derek Roy had effort and stats that put both ROR and Eichel to shame right now.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I liked Derek Roy for the record

if ror and eichel were these great players, we would be knocking on the door for playoffs in year 3


jack is half the player mathews is

ror right now is a 3rd line center paid to be a fringe number 1 center


why does ror show more heart and emotion for team canada than the team that plays him 7.5 mil per?
- homiedclown

Wow you're pretty down on Eichel. The way I see it, Kane is the only bona fide top 6 winger right now. Reinhart hasn't proven he is. Pouliot and Pominville definitely aren't. Okposo is fringe.

Step back from the ledge with Eichel. He s producing all the points for his line

So how do u feel about McDavid & Draisatil then?

How great is OEL if Arizona keeps being mediocre?

It’s a TEAM man
I just don’t see how your logic here makes sense
- jdfitz77

oh you mean those guys who played in the Stanley Cup Playoffs last season and lost 4-3 in the second round and would have absolutely beaten Nashville and gone on to the Stanley Cup finals?

Also, Arizona is not mediocre. They are the worst managed team in professional sports history. How OEL manages to not suck is a miracle in and of itself.

I liked Derek Roy for the record
- MCGUIZZY

me too

Roysie my boysie

So how do u feel about McDavid & Draisatil then?

How great is OEL if Arizona keeps being mediocre?

It’s a TEAM man
I just don’t see how your logic here makes sense
- jdfitz77

the team is getting outworked

out shot 2:1


who is leading the top 2 lines getting outworked 38 minutes a night?

me too

Roysie my boysie
- BeadyEyedDouche

Just saw him a few weeks back. He looks great

Wow you're pretty down on Eichel. The way I see it, Kane is the only bona fide top 6 winger right now. Reinhart hasn't proven he is. Pouliot and Pominville definitely aren't. Okposo is fringe.

Step back from the ledge with Eichel. He s producing all the points for his line
- jcragcrumple

if the eichel line was outworking the other teams line I would agree


it's not the case

I liked Derek Roy for the record
- MCGUIZZY

whatever line roy was on, they did not get out shot 2:1

So Eichel generating 99% of the primary assists and goals when he's on the ice means nothing? Good grief, you're picking on the good players.

Here's a list of real problems

Beaulieu
Antipin
Larsson
Girgensons
Moulson
Pominville playing in the top 6
Pouliot playing in the top 6
Bogos salary
Nolan
- jcragcrumple

This seems mostly accurate
For me...
I think it’s more having our players in the proper role
Like how u say Pommer & Pouliot shouldn’t be on line2
Lots of guys would be fine if they weren’t playing above their talent level

if the eichel line was outworking the other teams line I would agree


it's not the case
- homiedclown

It's a 5 man unit. You can't absolve his wingers and D men while dismissing him so easily

Just saw him a few weeks back. He looks great
- MCGUIZZY

Vanek-Roy-Afinogenov is my favorite Sabres line of all-time

oh you mean those guys who played in the Stanley Cup Playoffs last season and lost 4-3 in the second round and would have absolutely beaten Nashville and gone on to the Stanley Cup finals?

Also, Arizona is not mediocre. They are the worst managed team in professional sports history. How OEL manages to not suck is a miracle in and of itself.
- BeadyEyedDouche

No

It's a 5 man unit. You can't absolve his wingers and D men while dismissing him so easily
- jcragcrumple

you also shouldn't give him a pass

all I am saying, ror and eichel are not playing at the level they need to play at for this team to be good, let alone .500

Vanek-Roy-Afinogenov is my favorite Sabres line of all-time
- BeadyEyedDouche

So dope


Back when Van had the flow

This seems mostly accurate
For me...
I think it’s more having our players in the proper role
Like how u say Pommer & Pouliot shouldn’t be on line2
Lots of guys would be fine if they weren’t playing above their talent level
- jdfitz77

that logic is saying the 5th-7th d men and bottom 5 guys up front is the reason we suck


that's not the case as all 4 lines are getting out shot and most importantly outworked

oh you mean those guys who played in the Stanley Cup Playoffs last season and lost 4-3 in the second round and would have absolutely beaten Nashville and gone on to the Stanley Cup finals?

Also, Arizona is not mediocre. They are the worst managed team in professional sports history. How OEL manages to not suck is a miracle in and of itself.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Edmonton being good last year & not this year is EXACTLY my point though!

What’s more accurate...
Placing all the praise and blame on those 2?
OR
Realizing that their TEAM just isn’t as good this year?

Holding a good player(s) responsible for the entire Team SUCCESS/FAILURE makes zero sense

So dope


Back when Van had the flow
- MCGUIZZY

only thing close to it was a line they only had for a few weeks

max, kozlov, timmy


then kozlov caught a skate to the leg I think