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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM ET
I do my own laundry . The stuff she has i don't know how to fold . I mean HTF do you fold a string ?
- cabin



With you tongue of course....
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 8:04 PM ET
10 games isn't enough. You need at least half a season to let the kid get adjusted. Up for 3 games down for 3 months, or up for 10 games but only playing 8 minutes a night is not going to get it done.

It's like playing John Scott on Grigorenko's wing. WTF are you trying to accomplish?

- Wetbandit1



Yeah I agree, it just seems like in this day and age, it's rare to get a shot with a line every shift for 3 games, let alone 10. I'm still very intrigued by Baptiste, and I'd like him to get a good, long look with Eichel. Especially when considering they've had highlight reel success before
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 13 @ 8:08 PM ET
Talk smack when your team wins the cup in a league with more than 6 teams

You're vilifying Kessel who was arguably the best player on the 2016 penguins

- jcragcrumple

This has nothing to do with the Laffs. Nor should my views count for more if the Laffs won a cup
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 8:11 PM ET
This has nothing to do with the Laffs. Nor should my views count for more if the Laffs won a cup
- walshyleafsfan


You have nothing meaningful to say about Kessel or Eichel. 4/10 troll
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:12 PM ET
was posted in the past . very few skaters use that technique . Very few learn it and are able to use it . Does seem effortless .
- cabin


That's what I thought. I don't know why, but I want to say it was Beady who posted it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:13 PM ET
It would be a Botts move, IMO, from what we have seen so far. He likes his vets and Spezza isn't exactly Molson.

His experience would do wonders for the locker room, I think.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Jbotts likes cheap plug in free agents

Poiloiit
Tennyson
Griffin

cheap players nhl veterans

Nolan (waivers)
Wilson
Scandella (reasonable)


And

Friends that he played with (pommer )
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 8:16 PM ET
Jbotts likes cheap plug in free agents

Poiloiit
Tennyson
Griffin

cheap players nhl veterans

Nolan (waivers)
Wilson
Scandella (reasonable)


And

Friends that he played with (pommer )

- Boss34



I think he likes Pommer, but he took that salary to acquire Scandella. Just my opinion
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:18 PM ET
Talk smack when your team wins the cup in a league with more than 6 teams

You're vilifying Kessel who was absolutely the best player on the 2009-2014 Leafs

- jcragcrumple



FIFY
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:19 PM ET
I think he likes Pommer, but he took that salary to acquire Scandella. Just my opinion
- jcragcrumple

Definitely.

Scandella is a slightly overpaid #4, but pretty reliable and more durable than Bogo.

Risto is a good #3.

We gotta figure out the 1/2 combo.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:20 PM ET
I think he likes Pommer, but he took that salary to acquire Scandella. Just my opinion
- jcragcrumple


Definitely, pommer is great guy. True pro. I'm happy to have him back. Alway a favorite of mine.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:29 PM ET
Definitely.

Scandella is a slightly overpaid #4, but pretty reliable and more durable than Bogo.

Risto is a good #3.

We gotta figure out the 1/2 combo.

- sbroads24


55 is starting to look like a strong #2, playing with tons of jam.

Bogo played a strong game last night.

Kane scored

Can’t find anything to b!tch about? You mad Bro!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 13 @ 8:31 PM ET
I'd be surprised if he get's more than a 1 year at this pace.

He's on pace for 25-27 points. You don't hand out 3.3 mil for that

- sbroads24


I think that's on the high side. People saying $4M are on crack. But I also don't think he gets much lower than $3M. His first 2 years were far too good to get that little(sub $2.5M). Since everyone outside of Kane and Eichel are woefully underperforming it's tough to tell the cause.

If he does get significantly less, like $2M-$2.5M it could be a one year show me and hopefully the team is better and everyone's numbers go up.

But I see the Sabres trying to get him for 3 years at a lower than market value to try and save some money. Based mostly on the first 2 years, regardless of Jack's contribution. Lots of guys get paid because they're the beneficiary of a great player. He also scored at a 39 point pace without Jack even on the ice last year. Not great, but it's not like he went and scored 3 points in the first 21 games.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
I think that's on the high side. People saying $4M are on crack. But I also don't think he gets much lower than $3M. His first 2 years were far too good to get that little(sub $2.5M). Since everyone outside of Kane and Eichel are woefully underperforming it's tough to tell the cause.

If he does get significantly less, like $2M-$2.5M it could be a one year show me and hopefully the team is better and everyone's numbers go up.

But I see the Sabres trying to get him for 3 years at a lower than market value to try and save some money. Based mostly on the first 2 years, regardless of Jack's contribution. Lots of guys get paid because they're the beneficiary of a great player. He also scored at a 39 point pace without Jack even on the ice last year. Not great, but it's not like he went and scored 3 points in the first 21 games.

- Wetbandit1


Silent Sam is negotiating from a bad spot. He is a restricted free agent . He can sit out, demand a Trade or sign.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 8:41 PM ET
Yeah, he stands behind the bench every night.

Edit: I can't read I guess, Housley was 3rd in Winnipeg, but he did have 2 5th place finishes here.

- Wetbandit1



you're not ready

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
I own this on dvd
It’s not good
Hahaha!

- jdfitz77

it's beyond bad
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
Kessel had 66 points in 152 games his first two years at 19 and 20.

Eichel had 113 points in 142 games at the same age.

They aren't fair comparisons. Eichel will be better

Risto and Phaneuf are pretty comparable

- sbroads24



Guys develop at different rates
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 13 @ 8:45 PM ET
Just landed in Vancouver (for work) and rode the train from the airport to the downtown area. Coincidentally, I ran into John Van Boxmeer. I noticed his Sabres travelling bag with the name "Van Boxmeer" on it. I think he was startled when I said "hey John, how are you doing"? As most on here would know, Van Boxmeer is the Sabres west coast pro-scout. He lives in L.A. and is responsible for all pro scouting from Denver westwards.

Anyway, I walked and chatted with him for 15 minutes. Below are some of the key takeaways

- He is in Vancouver scouting the Canucks/Preds tonight.
- he just spent 4 days in San Jose scouting the Sharks. Prior to that, he was in Anaheim for a few days. He is off to Edmonton tomorrow to scout the Oilers/Preds game.
- I asked him about when they were going to trade Kane. He just laughed but he said there definitely is a lot of interest in him.
- I asked him what's going on with Reinhart. He said two things - "skating and heart".
- He thinks the last couple of games they might have turned the corner a bit. He insinuated (didn't say names) that some of the young guys on the team might feel a wee bit entitled. He said particularly the non elite guys who are playing in the NHL have to bring it absolutely every shift.
- we talked about Jack's unorthodox stride. He said because his stride is so long, it can be very deceptive.
- I asked him what Jason Botterill was like. He said very smart and very organized. He said there is a "night and day difference" between Botterill and the previous GM. I'll take that as a positive towards Botts and a negative towards Murray.

He was a really nice guy. We are staying in the same hotel so we might meet up for a beer after the game in the hotel bar. However, if he reads this board, he might take a pass.

My first "insider" contribution. Nothing like Homie or 89' but at least it wasn't the hot dog vendor.

- SabreWest

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
I think that's on the high side. People saying $4M are on crack. But I also don't think he gets much lower than $3M. His first 2 years were far too good to get that little(sub $2.5M). Since everyone outside of Kane and Eichel are woefully underperforming it's tough to tell the cause.

If he does get significantly less, like $2M-$2.5M it could be a one year show me and hopefully the team is better and everyone's numbers go up.

But I see the Sabres trying to get him for 3 years at a lower than market value to try and save some money. Based mostly on the first 2 years, regardless of Jack's contribution. Lots of guys get paid because they're the beneficiary of a great player. He also scored at a 39 point pace without Jack even on the ice last year. Not great, but it's not like he went and scored 3 points in the first 21 games.

- Wetbandit1

I think that's why they eventually agree on 1 year, or he ends up traded.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
Guys develop at different rates
- jdfitz77

Of course.

Kessel is great, but Eichel IMO is better and will be better long term
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
10 games isn't enough. You need at least half a season to let the kid get adjusted. Up for 3 games down for 3 months, or up for 10 games but only playing 8 minutes a night is not going to get it done.

It's like playing John Scott on Grigorenko's wing. WTF are you trying to accomplish?

- Wetbandit1


Totally agree
Bailey, Baptiste & Rodrigues all seem ready to get a real shot
Probably Fasching & Smith too
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Dec 13 @ 8:59 PM ET
With you tongue of course....
- gordong


You freaky old man hahaha

Made my day again
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 13 @ 9:01 PM ET
I think that's why they eventually agree on 1 year, or he ends up traded.
- sbroads24



I'd love to see Sam bet on himself for 1 year, I think it more likely he settles for 3x3.5 per
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Dec 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
Jack 100 will be the" player" when we build the right core

I think the goal will be all speed going forward
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 13 @ 9:03 PM ET
Jbotts likes cheap plug in free agents

Poiloiit
Tennyson
Griffin

cheap players nhl veterans

Nolan (waivers)
Wilson
Scandella (reasonable)


And

Friends that he played with (pommer )

- Boss34



Way too soon to try & decipher J Botts

For example...
does he like cheap plug ins like Griffith & Tennyson?
Or did he just sign them to keep the kids in Rochester?

I’m sure hoping it’s not bc he thought Tenny & Griff would actually be productive players for us
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Dec 13 @ 9:03 PM ET
I'd love to see Sam bet on himself for 1 year, I think it more likely he settles for 3x3.5 per
- jcragcrumple


The question is why does he deserve 3.5 million?

I would give him 1.2 million Max that's how much he's deserving

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