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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:10 PM ET




Good luck with that for Kane

- NewYorkNuck


he's going to max out his UFA status, and why wouldn't he really.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
he's going to max out his UFA status, and why wouldn't he really.
- neem55

Which should leave Vancouver out of it.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
Which should leave Vancouver out of it.
- Marwood


Thank you
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
Which should leave Vancouver out of it.
- Marwood

Jim Benning
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:29 PM ET
Which should leave Vancouver out of it.
- Marwood

I wish that were true. LE got the highest bid from Vancouver I bet. Same with Miller. Sedin money has to go somewhere and I wouldn't be that surprised.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
I wish that were true. LE got the highest bid from Vancouver I bet. Same with Miller. Sedin money has to go somewhere and I wouldn't be that surprised.
- neem55

Bad contracts for higher picks.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 1:30 PM ET
I wish that were true. LE got the highest bid from Vancouver I bet. Same with Miller. Sedin money has to go somewhere and I wouldn't be that surprised.
- neem55

Karlsson.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:32 PM ET
Jim Benning
- LeftCoaster


>>>Trade Gudbranson to the highest bidder, accept the loss and move on.

>>>Sign Kane to a fair UFA deal that won't handcuff the team again (if that's possible). If not move on.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:33 PM ET
Karlsson.
- LordHumungous

Karlsson is next year UFA not this year
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:36 PM ET
Karlsson is next year UFA not this year
- neem55


So's Edler
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:39 PM ET
Karlsson is next year UFA not this year
- neem55


Who cares. He can't even fight.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
Who cares. He can't even fight.
- Nucker101


No need for that in hockey.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
Protect the kids from what? How are they supposed grow if not to overcome adversity. I bet you have a participation ribbon framed on your desk.
- 1970vintage

No, I would have smashed Hartnell in the face. I don't think Boeser should be in charge of scoring goals and protecting the Sedin's
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
The team as it stands today doesn't have the desire/ability to stand up for themselves.

Very embarrassing.

- VanHockeyGuy

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:44 PM ET
No need for that in hockey.
- VanHockeyGuy


it's getting to that point, already at an all-time low so far this season..




I'm all for team toughness, but there's bigger problems that need to be addressed first.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
Quick question here...if Vanek has the second most PP goals since Ovechkin joined the league why is he not on PP1?
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
it's getting to that point, already at an all-time low so far this season..




I'm all for team toughness, but there's bigger problems that need to be addressed first.

- Nucker101


This season so far it's 17.36%, that's still quite a bit. On a rebuilding team shouldn't the young players know someone has their back when things get rough?

Teams are going to have a heyday with Elias Pettersson What happens then?

Cry to the refs?

PS nice chart ya geek
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Quick question here...if Vanek has the second most PP goals since Ovechkin joined the league why is he not on PP1?
- LordHumungous


Good question. He and Boeser have the best shots on the team, with Bo out I'd like to see him out there.

The 2nd unit was completely garbage last night, they couldn't even get into the zone
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Who cares. He can't even fight.
- Nucker101


It kind of reminds me of my favorite southpark episode featuring Randy Marsh vs. Batdad. Unnecessary, but somehow part of the culture.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
For those of you that didn't expect games like this have over evaluated this talent starved team.
I am sure most realize this team lacks in every single department from skill to defensive ability to team toughness.
We are still 3 years away get over it.

Mr. Benning
Please don't sign any highpriced help. Stick with the drafting of talent for this team.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 14 @ 1:56 PM ET
Woooooo-weeeee. June yet?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
How do you know that? Because Stercher didn’t drop his gloves when he got a little face wash? Would that have made you feel better? The team isn’t very good to begin with, and has several players out of the lineup. This conversation just proves that people here actually thought they had a chance, if only they were tougher, they could win the big one.
- 1970vintage[/
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feeling ok?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
This season so far it's 17.36%, that's still quite a bit. On a rebuilding team shouldn't the young players know someone has their back when things get rough?

Teams are going to have a heyday with Elias Pettersson What happens then?

Cry to the refs? PS nice chart ya geek

- VanHockeyGuy


Sure, but priority wise, I want management focussing on building up a strong future core. Build a culture, starting in the AHL, rookie camps, training camps, where team toughness is emphasized.

You don't have to have a team with 3-4 guys who are in charge of protecting the other 16-17 guys, you need a team mentality. There's more scrums/agitating(like Hartnell/Subban) than there is actual head hunting and fighting these days.

Notice how the Preds didn't drop any gloves or really challenge anyone to a fight, but the message was sent loud and clear to the Canucks.

I'd rather build an actual culture with the next core instead of overpaying in trades/ufa for outside help.

That can be done when the team is ready to compete in the playoffs again.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
i wouldn't trade for "toughness" right now. chances are that the cost will be higher than the team can afford during the season.

nor would i try to draft for anything other than bpa at the top of the draft.

unless an affordable trade presents itself (unlikely) i would add toughness through lower/mid-range ufa's in the summer. i would not sign kane(!!).

getting a tougher team should be a longer range goal, not a reaction to a 7-1 loss.

- RealityChecker

Toughness can be had for free on the waiver wire
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Dec 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Sure, but priority wise, I want management focussing on building up a strong future core. Build a culture, starting in the AHL, rookie camps, training camps, where team toughness is emphasized.

You don't have to have a team with 3-4 guys who are in charge of protecting the other 16-17 guys, you need a team mentality. There's more scrums/agitating(like Hartnell/Subban) than there is actual head hunting and fighting these days.

Notice how the Preds didn't drop any gloves or really challenge anyone to a fight, but the message was sent loud and clear to the Canucks.

I'd rather build an actual culture with the next core instead of overpaying in trades/ufa for outside help.

That can be done when the team is ready to compete in the playoffs again.

- Nucker101

The team sucks so why not add a bit of grit via the waiver wire? Our toughest player is Guance Let the rookies focus on scoring goals and not the post whistle scrums
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