I agree. But then "whipping boy" might also be seen as guys getting the most attention and coaching from the staff. I personally want the coaching staff to focus on working with the kids, could care less whether the 27 and overs are playing Green's system well personally.
- neem55

The discussion here, on the radio, and in social media is a lot of misdirection.

The discussion here is which 800 k fringe prospect deserves to play the one that can't score or the one that cant play D. As long as we are focusing on this we are not discussing the real issue .

Daniel Hank Loui Gagner Sutter Granlund 28.5 million 24 goals combined after 31 games.

That is completley irrelevant. We also still have Rathbone not that it matters.
- CanuckDon

It is very relevant. Why are you trading your top 6 forward then? Rathbone may never play a NHL game in his life. Goldobin was suppose to be the main part of the trade.

Your going to love this article today then....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...wins-bounce-back-offence/

Oh boy what a concept...
- Nuck4U

While the Sedin "resurgence" (same points trajectory, more chances, fewer minutes) might be sustainable for a while, I personally find these stats way more exciting:

Brock Boeser -- 28 points in 28 games in the big league as a rookie
Elias Petterson -- 35 points in 26 games in the SHL, 7 points in 9 games in CL
Jonathan Dahlén -- 22 points in 19 games in Allsvenskan

Bonus: 6 prospects in the WJC, which I'm looking forward to watching!

Lind - Tavares - Boeser
Pettersson - Horvat - Dahlen
Goldobin - Gaudette - Gadjovich
Lockwood - Sutter - Eriksson

Juolevi - Karlsson
Tryamkin - Tanev
Gudbranson - Pouliot

Demko
Dipietro


Imagine this lineup in 2-3 years
- Nucker101

You forgot Rasmus Dahlin......

You forgot Rasmus Dahlin......
- vancity787

It was tempting but I was trying to keep it realistic.

It was tempting but I was trying to keep it realistic.
- Nucker101

Jeff Patterson had a good take on this. Try to listen to his podcast.

Readers digest version : Canucks have only held 2 practices since Goldobin has arrived and he is not sure Green was there for either practice.Nothing stood out about Goldobin at the practices good or bad. JPat even suggested that Green may hate practice even more that Torts did.

JPat never called Bull Crap but he did seem very surprised at Greens statement that he doesn't practice hard.
- VANTEL

I always have noticed Patterson has put a concentrated effort at presenting an opinion that is contrary just so he can say it is own. Green has coaches running practices. He relies on them one way or another. He'll turn to them for their assessment and I'm sure their observations will look much different than Patterson's.

Patterson really is a bonehead in my opinion. He hitches his wagon to every un-talked about player in the system and try really hard to make a controversy out of it often failing with a whimper.

How is floating and not paying attention to details & being inconsistent, not similar?
To me they are at par.
Perhaps I don't have the superior intellect that you demonstrate? For that I offer my humble apologies.
- Marwood

If you add in not paying attention to details then it can be interpreted as part of floating where lack of effort is the basis. But there is a distinction that was made that isn't about intellect, as you have it, but application and experience perhaps.

Like when you read a post if you focus on one line or a few words and not apply the connecting sentences then the theme or premise may come out differently to you. See how that works when applied to focus. Its not singularly defined to paying attention to some detail. That can lose the meaning of what was made.

So in reference to Goldy it is the grasping of how, when and where to implement a detail or make a move. Doing that consistently leads to performance excellence. This is where instinct and skill is challenged to expand beyond effort.

Thus, focusing in learning that discipline is more then paying attention to details but applying all of the concepts at the right time.

Your going to love this article today then....

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...wins-bounce-back-offence/

Oh boy what a concept...
- Nuck4U

Take the name out of the equation . They are on pace this year for 40 pts. Next year with the additional players their TOI would be reduced again. So figure on 35 points each. THat is third line productivity.

Pay them as third liners and give them third line minutes , let Bo and Brock take leadership and introduce EP and Gaudette.

Paying 5 mil each is stupid but if you are looking at 3.5 mil each then I would put my personal thoughts aside.

I always have noticed Patterson has put a concentrated effort at presenting an opinion that is contrary just so he can say it is own. Green has coaches running practices. He relies on them one way or another. He'll turn to them for their assessment and I'm sure their observations will look much different than Patterson's.

Patterson really is a bonehead in my opinion. He hitches his wagon to every un-talked about player in the system and try really hard to make a controversy out of it often failing with a whimper.
- boonerbuck

If Green isn't at practices then how does he stop practicing to yelling at them to stop lollygagging?

I always have noticed Patterson has put a concentrated effort at presenting an opinion that is contrary just so he can say it is own. Green has coaches running practices. He relies on them one way or another. He'll turn to them for their assessment and I'm sure their observations will look much different than Patterson's.

Patterson really is a bonehead in my opinion. He hitches his wagon to every un-talked about player in the system and try really hard to make a controversy out of it often failing with a whimper.
- boonerbuck

I have gotten into it with him on a few occasions talking about his obscure stats. I told him one night he will be reporting how many time a guy farts on the plane

Take the name out of the equation . They are on pace this year for 40 pts. Next year with the additional players their TOI would be reduced again. So figure on 35 points each. THat is third line productivity.

Pay them as third liners and give them third line minutes , let Bo and Brock take leadership and introduce EP and Gaudette.

Paying 5 mil each is stupid but if you are looking at 3.5 mil each then I would put my personal thoughts aside.
- VANTEL

WTF man. You flip flopping again?

WTF man. You flip flopping again?
- manvanfan

I guess to dumb asses it would seem that way. I am saying I don't want that to happen but when they do I am not going to rant.

I guess to dumb asses it would seem that way. I am saying I don't want that to happen but when they do I am not going to rant.
- VANTEL

Carol's blog is going to lose a page or two then. Think of Carol.

I agree. The main upcoming core are fun to watch. The old part of the team well , you know
- VANTEL

GAUNCE!

It was tempting but I was trying to keep it realistic.
- Nucker101

If Green isn't at practices then how does he stop practicing to yelling at them to stop lollygagging?
- manvanfan

Assistant coaches have it pre-recorded

GAUNCE!
- Bettmanhatesus

He's got us all on the edge of our seats thinking maybe this time he's going to score. He's just building the suspense.

While the Sedin "resurgence" (same points trajectory, more chances, fewer minutes) might be sustainable for a while, I personally find these stats way more exciting:

Brock Boeser -- 28 points in 28 games in the big league as a rookie
Elias Petterson -- 35 points in 26 games in the SHL, 7 points in 9 games in CL
Jonathan Dahlén -- 22 points in 19 games in Allsvenskan

Bonus: 6 prospects in the WJC, which I'm looking forward to watching!
- SlightlyOffside

Totally agree...and prefer some of them to earn their way on to Canucks if the roster spots are realistically open.

Carol's blog is going to lose a page or two then. Think of Carol.
- manvanfan

I have never once in my life said I want the Sedins to sign. Accepting things that I can not change is a whole lot different than wanting

I have never once in my life said I want the Sedins to sign. Accepting things that I can not change is a whole lot different than wanting
- VANTEL

They haven't signed yet, nor have they talked about signing.

Totally agree...and prefer some of them to earn their way on to Canucks if the roster spots are realistically open.
- Nuck4U

Free Agency

If you add in not paying attention to details then it can be interpreted as part of floating where lack of effort is the basis. But there is a distinction that was made that isn't about intellect, as you have it, but application and experience perhaps.

Like when you read a post if you focus on one line or a few words and not apply the connecting sentences then the theme or premise may come out differently to you. See how that works when applied to focus. Its not singularly defined to paying attention to some detail. That can lose the meaning of what was made.

So in reference to Goldy it is the grasping of how, when and where to implement a detail or make a move. Doing that consistently leads to performance excellence. This is where instinct and skill is challenged to expand beyond effort. So focusing in learning that discipline is more then paying attention to details but applying all of the concepts at the right time.
- Nuck4U

Assistant coaches have it pre-recorded
- Retinalz

NB and NB just don't have it in them?

If Green isn't at practices then how does he stop practicing to yelling at them to stop lollygagging?
- manvanfan

Magic I guess? Ask Patterson.

I'm making the point that one way or the other, Green will listen to his coaches over Patterson? Right?