To Nashville

Price vs Rinne and Ekholm.


The money works, Price is 5 years younger. Rinne gives Montreal 2 years to prepare Lindgren


With Price, Nashville will win one or two cup in the next 3-4 years...

y tho
- BINGO!

Probably only team with capspace n enough defenseman n def prospects to get it done at a reasonable deal. No one wants dat contract with his injuries n potential decline. Injuries are doing damage to dat contract but he gonna decline in a couple years anyway. There not dat far away from being a contender I’d say a #1 center insert Tavares. I wouldn’t go for price but I wanted to put up a realistic trade deal

Carolina would still have a good group after da trade unlike other teams trading away a defenseman or center which Montreal asking for but da Habs will not go for it GM a idiot n will b asking to much

You're absolutely, 100% wrong...it's all about success in the playoffs and "what have you done for me lately" in this league. Let's not forget StaBo recently dealt Panarin for Saad...cause he felt it would lead to deeper playoff runs.

Any GM worth his weight will ALWAYS improve at EVERY position given the opportunity.

Crawford has proven capable when the team was stacked, but now that Chicago has holes it's painfully obvious that he cannot carry this team. Price has proven time and again that he's able to put a team on his back, which might be just what we need right now.

People need to stop using the tired, "but he won a Cup 3 years ago" argument to justify not improving the roster, lol.

Price > Crawford. Period.

If you truly believe otherwise, please stop responding cause you're wasting my time...
- Hawks18

You're absolutely, 100% wrong...it's all about success in the playoffs and "what have you done for me lately" in this league. Let's not forget StaBo recently dealt Panarin for Saad...cause he felt it would lead to deeper playoff runs.

Any GM worth his weight will ALWAYS improve at EVERY position given the opportunity.

Crawford has proven capable when the team was stacked, but now that Chicago has holes it's painfully obvious that he cannot carry this team. Price has proven time and again that he's able to put a team on his back, which might be just what we need right now.

People need to stop using the tired, "but he won a Cup 3 years ago" argument to justify not improving the roster, lol.

Price > Crawford. Period.

If you truly believe otherwise, please stop responding cause you're wasting my time...
- Hawks18

If you think it's just about who is the better player, then it's you who is wasting someone's time, my friend.

I can't remember when Price put a team on his back and carried them to the Stanley Cup. Can you refresh my memory? How about to the Finals?

If you think it's just about who is the better player, then it's you who is wasting someone's time, my friend.

I can't remember when Price put a team on his back and carried them to the Stanley Cup. Can you refresh my memory? How about to the Finals?
- MJL

Did I ever say it was only about the better player? No.

In fact, I even mentioned the Panarin for Saad deal cause it's about making changes to better our team's chances for THIS season and beyond...not 3-5 years ago.

Corey Crawford hasn't gotten it done since 2015, which I would argue was in spite of his flaws...so, yeah, I would absolutely jump at the opportunity to secure an UPGRADE for the single most important position in hockey.

I can't remember any season during Carey Price's tenure in Montreal when the Canadiens had anywhere near the amount of talent or playoff experience as these current Blackhawks still posses. Actually, Chicago has shuttered more talent and success than Montreal has had since '93, lol.

You'd probably say it's crazy or stupid to deal Jonathan Toews for Steven Stamkos...cause, you know, Stanley Cups and all like 3 years ago (despite the major talent-gap and obvious need for a shake-up in Chicago).

You're clearly trolling, though. If not, I feel sorry for your lack of hockey knowledge...I mean, you are a Flyers fan afterall.

How's Michael Leighton doing? By your (flawed) logic, he's irreplaceable and should never be dealt for Carey Price!

Stay in your lane, child...

Did I ever say it was only about the better player? No.

In fact, I even mentioned the Panarin for Saad deal cause it's about making changes to better our team's chances for THIS season and beyond...not 3-5 years ago.

Corey Crawford hasn't gotten it done since 2015, which I would argue was in spite of his flaws...so, yeah, I would absolutely jump at the opportunity to secure an UPGRADE for the single most important position in hockey.

I can't remember any season during Carey Price's tenure in Montreal when the Canadiens had anywhere near the amount of talent or playoff experience as these current Blackhawks still posses. Actually, Chicago has shuttered more talent and success than Montreal has had since '93, lol.

You'd probably say it's crazy or stupid to deal Jonathan Toews for Steven Stamkos...cause, you know, Stanley Cups and all like 3 years ago (despite the major talent-gap and obvious need for a shake-up in Chicago).

You're clearly trolling, though. If not, I feel sorry for your lack of hockey knowledge...I mean, you are a Flyers fan afterall.

How's Michael Leighton doing? By your (flawed) logic, he's irreplaceable and should never be dealt for Carey Price!

Stay in your lane, child...
- Hawks18

Here is what you said, emphasizing ALWAYS.

"Any GM worth his weight will ALWAYS improve at EVERY position given the opportunity."

The person who is trolling is making the Michael Leighton comments. What I'm doing is poking holes in the ridiculous trade offer you made not to mention even more ridiculous comments afterwards including above in stating that Crawford hasn't gotten it done since 2015.

It would be an asinine move for Chicago to give up what they need to give up to obtain Price as well as take on the contract. It's that simple.

I'm the Flyer's GM and here's my offer:

CANADIENS GET:

GHOST
PROVOROV
COUTOURIER
CARTER HART

FLYERS GET:

PRICE
GALCHENYUK
2019 3RD ROUND PICK (PRICE SALARY COMPENSATION)
- CodyRyan511

Hell nos.. That is a lot to give up. In this offer the Flyers are giving up a young current #1 dman, a young top PP quarterback\ offensive Dman, Top line C (Carbon copy of Bergeron) and Flyers best Goalie prospect.,

Here is what you said, emphasizing ALWAYS.

"Any GM worth his weight will ALWAYS improve at EVERY position given the opportunity."

The person who is trolling is making the Michael Leighton comments. What I'm doing is poking holes in the ridiculous trade offer you made not to mention even more ridiculous comments afterwards including above in stating that Crawford hasn't gotten it done since 2015.

It would be an asinine move for Chicago to give up what they need to give up to obtain Price as well as take on the contract. It's that simple.
- MJL

Improving at any given position does not always mean "the best player is all that matters", as I've mentioned ad nauseum...I also said any good GM would improve at any position if given the opportunity, which is pretty common sense.

No, you're not...you're simply saying it doesn't make sense to upgrade in net because the incumbent has won before (several years ago). And, the only "hole you've poked" in my proposal is that Chicago would be silly to trade Crawford cause he's won 2 Cups, lol. Anything else?

It seemed "asinine" for StaBo to deal consecutive top-10 scorer (Panarin) for an old-faithful "Cup-winner" (Saad), but that's exactly what happened cause guess what...Chicago hasn't won anything since 2014-15.

In fact, Chicago has tried to trade Crawford, but he's been unwilling to waive his NMC for suitable trade partners. Clearly, I'm not the only one who feels he's expendable...especially, if an opportunity arose to acquire Carey Price.

Now, his enormous salary may be a hindrance, but that's why Montreal would need to take Anisimov's $4.75M back...it wouldn't matter if we won the Cup again this year or next because of it anyway.

Pittsburgh has shown that teams can win with massive, top-heavy contracts...yet they continue to add talented pieces whenever possible (see: Kessel, Phil and Schultz, Justin) and figure out the rest later.

Jim Rutherford knows what it takes to stay relevant in today's NHL...acquire as much high-end talent as possible, while filling the roster with affordable, but competent depth pieces.

Improving at any given position does not always mean "the best player is all that matters", as I've mentioned ad nauseum...I also said any good GM would improve at any position if given the opportunity, which is pretty common sense.

No, you're not...you're simply saying it doesn't make sense to upgrade in net because the incumbent has won before (several years ago). And, the only "hole you've poked" in my proposal is that Chicago would be silly to trade Crawford cause he's won 2 Cups, lol. Anything else?


- Hawks18

You're wrong. It doesn't make sense based on all the factors, including cost to acquire him both in terms of trade assets and salary cap factors. Not to mention that they already have a Stanley Cup winning goaltender.

It seemed "asinine" for StaBo to deal consecutive top-10 scorer (Panarin) for an old-faithful "Cup-winner" (Saad), but that's exactly what happened cause guess what...Chicago hasn't won anything since 2014-15.

In fact, Chicago has tried to trade Crawford, but he's been unwilling to waive his NMC for suitable trade partners. Clearly, I'm not the only one who feels he's expendable...especially, if an opportunity arose to acquire Carey Price.


- Hawks18

A one for one players swap is not a comparable situation. I never said they shouldn't under any circumstances trade Crawford, just not in the deal you made up for Price.

Now, his enormous salary may be a hindrance, but that's why Montreal would need to take Anisimov's $4.75M back...it wouldn't matter if we won the Cup again this year or next because of it anyway.


- Hawks18

It may be?

Pittsburgh has shown that teams can win with massive, top-heavy contracts...yet they continue to add talented pieces whenever possible (see: Kessel, Phil and Schultz, Justin) and figure out the rest later.

Jim Rutherford knows what it takes to stay relevant in today's NHL...acquire as much high-end talent as possible, while filling the roster with affordable, but competent depth pieces.
- Hawks18

It's the wrong move for the Hawks and the trade proposal you made is absurd. Can't put in any clearer language.

Crawford has a 2.11 GAA and a .935 S%, so lets trade for Carey Price and his 8 year deal with an AAV of 10.5M.

If you think it's just about who is the better player, then it's you who is wasting someone's time, my friend.

I can't remember when Price put a team on his back and carried them to the Stanley Cup. Can you refresh my memory? How about to the Finals?
- MJL

You're wrong. It doesn't make sense based on all the factors, including cost to acquire him both in terms of trade assets and salary cap factors. Not to mention that they already have a Stanley Cup winning goaltender.

A one for one players swap is not a comparable situation. I never said they shouldn't under any circumstances trade Crawford, just not in the deal you made up for Price.
- MJL

I've already debunked the "Stanley Cup-winning goaltender" fallacy, which you clearly cannot comprehend. Chris Osgood, anyone?

Cost to acquire and salary cap factors?

Let me break it down for you (using next year's AAV)...

Blackhawks Receive:
C/LW - Alex Galchenyuk ($4.9M)
G - Carey Price ($10.5M)
2019 - 4th Round Pick

Canadiens Receive:
C - Artem Anisimov ($4.55M)
LW - Alexandre Fortin
RW - Marian Hossa ($5.275M)
D - Ville Pokka
G - Corey Crawford ($6.0M)
2018 - 1st Round Pick
2019 - 2nd Round Pick

$4.55M (Artem Anisimov) + $5.275M (Marian Hossa) + $6.0M (Corey Crawford) = $15.825M

$4.9M (Alex Galchenyuk) + $10.5M (Carey Price) = $15.4M

$15.825M > $15.4M - Do you know what that means? Chicago actually SAVES money on the cap...by rostering the same exact number of NHL contracts, as Hossa is on LTIR.

So, why doesn't it make sense to replace an average NHL goaltender and save salary cap space, while only truly costing non-NHL roster players (Fortin & Pokka) who may or may not ever even draw into Coach Q's lineup?

(Galchenyuk and Anisimov might be a wash, but Price is obviously better than Crawford)

Chicago has also proven not to value our own 1st or 2nd Round Picks the last few years, as they're generally bottom-half selections.

Please, tell me again why it's not worth the upgrade to Carey Price...cause none of your "arguments" hold any objective water.

It's the wrong move for the Hawks and the trade proposal you made is absurd. Can't put in any clearer language.
- MJL

It may be absurd from Montreal's perspective, but I openly admitted that when I made the proposal. You will never convince me that this deal HURTS the Blackhawks, though.

Alex Galchenyuk = Artem Anisimov (Galchenyuk is 6 years younger and has far more upside than Anisimov)
Alexandre Fortin = Prospect (Solid prospect w/ upside, but likely 2-3 years away in Blackhawks organization)
Marian Hossa = Retired (Zero value to the Blackhawks)
Ville Pokka = Prospect (Solid prospect w/ offensive upside, but likely 2-3 years away and stuck behind several NHL-level players in Blackhawks organization)
Carey Price >> Corey Crawford (Stanley Cup rings will NEVER change this fact)

So, please...tell me again what's so devastating for Chicago to give up in my offer? What makes it so wrong and absurd from their perspective?

Crawford has a 2.11 GAA and a .935 S%, so lets trade for Carey Price and his 8 year deal with an AAV of 10.5M.
- MJL

Really? Why are you quoting Regular Season statistics like they truly matter? Perhaps making the playoffs feels like a huge success in Philly, but...

Chicago is not built to win the President's Trophy...nobody around here cares about Regular Season success, buddy. It's Stanley Cup or bust for McDonough, Bowman, and Quenneville.

Let's take a look at their respective playoff statistics since 2013-14 (since you love arbitrary numbers so much)...

Carey Price - 30 GP, 16 W, 14 L, 2.20 GAA, .922 SV%, 2 SO
Corey Crawford - 50 GP, 27 W, 22 L, 2.47 GAA, .915 SV%, 3 SO

GAA Rank
Price = 11th
Crawford = 20th

SV% Rank
Price = 14th
Crawford = 23rd

Which player's team would you say had more talent during this time?

So, I'd say Price's nearly identical winning percentage and superior peripherals (GAA and SV%) would prove that he's, in fact, the better playoff goaltender despite his team's failures.

Please, give me Carey Price...especially, if all it takes is Corey Crawford and some decent prospects.

I'm not sure why I expected more from a Flyers fan, but I suppose it's my own fault for engaging with stubborn ignorance, lol.

I've already debunked the "Stanley Cup-winning goaltender" fallacy, which you clearly cannot comprehend. Chris Osgood, anyone?


- Hawks18

No, you haven't debunked anything. Goaltending is clearly not a need for the Blackhawks.


https://thehockeywriters....good-hall-of-fame-worthy/

Cost to acquire and salary cap factors?

Let me break it down for you (using next year's AAV)...

Blackhawks Receive:
C/LW - Alex Galchenyuk ($4.9M)
G - Carey Price ($10.5M)
2019 - 4th Round Pick

Canadiens Receive:
C - Artem Anisimov ($4.55M)
LW - Alexandre Fortin
RW - Marian Hossa ($5.275M)
D - Ville Pokka
G - Corey Crawford ($6.0M)
2018 - 1st Round Pick
2019 - 2nd Round Pick

$4.55M (Artem Anisimov) + $5.275M (Marian Hossa) + $6.0M (Corey Crawford) = $15.825M

$4.9M (Alex Galchenyuk) + $10.5M (Carey Price) = $15.4M

$15.825M > $15.4M - Do you know what that means? Chicago actually SAVES money on the cap...by rostering the same exact number of NHL contracts, as Hossa is on LTIR.

So, why doesn't it make sense to replace an average NHL goaltender and save salary cap space, while only truly costing non-NHL roster players (Fortin & Pokka) who may or may not ever even draw into Coach Q's lineup?

(Galchenyuk and Anisimov might be a wash, but Price is obviously better than Crawford)

Chicago has also proven not to value our own 1st or 2nd Round Picks the last few years, as they're generally bottom-half selections.

Please, tell me again why it's not worth the upgrade to Carey Price...cause none of your "arguments" hold any objective water.


It may be absurd from Montreal's perspective, but I openly admitted that when I made the proposal. You will never convince me that this deal HURTS the Blackhawks, though.

Alex Galchenyuk = Artem Anisimov (Galchenyuk is 6 years younger and has far more upside than Anisimov)
Alexandre Fortin = Prospect (Solid prospect w/ upside, but likely 2-3 years away in Blackhawks organization)
Marian Hossa = Retired (Zero value to the Blackhawks)
Ville Pokka = Prospect (Solid prospect w/ offensive upside, but likely 2-3 years away and stuck behind several NHL-level players in Blackhawks organization)
Carey Price >> Corey Crawford (Stanley Cup rings will NEVER change this fact)

So, please...tell me again what's so devastating for Chicago to give up in my offer? What makes it so wrong and absurd from their perspective?



Really? Why are you quoting Regular Season statistics like they truly matter? Perhaps making the playoffs feels like a huge success in Philly, but...

Chicago is not built to win the President's Trophy...nobody around here cares about Regular Season success, buddy. It's Stanley Cup or bust for McDonough, Bowman, and Quenneville.

Let's take a look at their respective playoff statistics since 2013-14 (since you love arbitrary numbers so much)...

Carey Price - 30 GP, 16 W, 14 L, 2.20 GAA, .922 SV%, 2 SO
Corey Crawford - 50 GP, 27 W, 22 L, 2.47 GAA, .915 SV%, 3 SO

GAA Rank
Price = 11th
Crawford = 20th

SV% Rank
Price = 14th
Crawford = 23rd

Which player's team would you say had more talent during this time?

So, I'd say Price's nearly identical winning percentage and superior peripherals (GAA and SV%) would prove that he's, in fact, the better playoff goaltender despite his team's failures.

Please, give me Carey Price...especially, if all it takes is Corey Crawford and some decent prospects.

I'm not sure why I expected more from a Flyers fan, but I suppose it's my own fault for engaging with stubborn ignorance, lol.
- Hawks18

Do you know how LTIR works? How about the long term cap implications of taking on Price. There is more to it than just the cap numbers right now. A large part of cap management is projecting the future. You looked at one year's cap numbers LOL. Galchenyuk is not a guarantee. The Hawks need to start keeping their draft picks and start adding to the prospect base. The next draft is a deep one and players can be found late.

Crawford is not an average NHL goaltender, he is a very good NHL goaltender.

Speaking of ignorance, which is further shown by your comments about who I root for in addition to your Leighton comment, you're arguing that Price is a better goaltender than Crawford is. Why, I've never said to the contrary.

It would be a bad deal for Chicago to make on many fronts. .

No, you haven't debunked anything. Goaltending is clearly not a need for the Blackhawks.


https://thehockeywriters....good-hall-of-fame-worthy/





Do you know how LTIR works? How about the long term cap implications of taking on Price. There is more to it than just the cap numbers right now. A large part of cap management is projecting the future. You looked at one year's cap numbers LOL. Galchenyuk is not a guarantee. The Hawks need to start keeping their draft picks and start adding to the prospect base. The next draft is a deep one and players can be found late.

Crawford is not an average NHL goaltender, he is a very good NHL goaltender.

Speaking of ignorance, which is further shown by your comments about who I root for in addition to your Leighton comment, you're arguing that Price is a better goaltender than Crawford is. Why, I've never said to the contrary.

It would be a bad deal for Chicago to make on many fronts. .
- MJL

I certainly do know how LTIR works and I'm well aware of the long-term cap implications, but it wouldn't be felt on Chicago's side for 3-4 years as that's when Anisimov, Hossa, and Crawford would expire.

Plus, the salary cap escalates slightly each year...and as I've noted, Pittsburgh has shown it's quite possible to win with several high-end salaries.

What good does mid-round picks generally do for an organization? It's rare to find gems when drafting between 20th-30th, which is where Chicago would perennially land. Prospects do nothing for us cause the mantra is to win right now...saving picks or grooming youngsters doesn't work with Chicago's current timeline. Period.

Crawford is average, but that's an argument for another day. Upgrading one of the most important positions in all of sports, let alone hockey, is never a bad deal...especially, when it doesn't compromise your ability to win in the present.

Why do you think StaBo has been so free with draft picks? It's all about deep playoff runs today...this year, as it's always been since Tallon left him a Stanley Cup roster.

No, you haven't debunked anything. Goaltending is clearly not a need for the Blackhawks.


https://thehockeywriters....good-hall-of-fame-worthy/





Do you know how LTIR works? How about the long term cap implications of taking on Price. There is more to it than just the cap numbers right now. A large part of cap management is projecting the future. You looked at one year's cap numbers LOL. Galchenyuk is not a guarantee. The Hawks need to start keeping their draft picks and start adding to the prospect base. The next draft is a deep one and players can be found late.

Crawford is not an average NHL goaltender, he is a very good NHL goaltender.

Speaking of ignorance, which is further shown by your comments about who I root for in addition to your Leighton comment, you're arguing that Price is a better goaltender than Crawford is. Why, I've never said to the contrary.

It would be a bad deal for Chicago to make on many fronts. .
- MJL

Not sure if you'd be willing to switch allegiances, but as a Hawk fan I'd like to trade Hawks18 for you and welcome you to our ranks.

It would be kind of cruel to Flyer fans but I could live with it.

Not sure if you'd be willing to switch allegiances, but as a Hawk fan I'd like to trade Hawks18 for you and welcome you to our ranks.

It would be kind of cruel to Flyer fans but I could live with it.
- HawkintheD

Nice one, lol.

I certainly do know how LTIR works and I'm well aware of the long-term cap implications, but it wouldn't be felt on Chicago's side for 3-4 years as that's when Anisimov, Hossa, and Crawford would expire.

Plus, the salary cap escalates slightly each year...and as I've noted, Pittsburgh has shown it's quite possible to win with several high-end salaries.

What good does mid-round picks generally do for an organization? It's rare to find gems when drafting between 20th-30th, which is where Chicago would perennially land. Prospects do nothing for us cause the mantra is to win right now...saving picks or grooming youngsters doesn't work with Chicago's current timeline. Period.

Crawford is average, but that's an argument for another day. Upgrading one of the most important positions in all of sports, let alone hockey, is never a bad deal...especially, when it doesn't compromise your ability to win in the present.

Why do you think StaBo has been so free with draft picks? It's all about deep playoff runs today...this year, as it's always been since Tallon left him a Stanley Cup roster.

- Hawks18

It's time for StaBo LOL, to become less free with draft picks. He doesn't have a Stanley Cup roster anymore. The potential upgrade of Price over Crawford doesn't change that.
You like to call people ignorant yet keep stating that Crawford is an average goaltender.
I'd be surprised if you actually know how LTIR works.

It's time for StaBo LOL, to become less free with draft picks. He doesn't have a Stanley Cup roster anymore. The potential upgrade of Price over Crawford doesn't change that.
You like to call people ignorant yet keep stating that Crawford is an average goaltender.
I'd be surprised if you actually know how LTIR works.
- MJL

I can't believe that anyone who has watched Hawk hockey since after his meltdown vs PHX in 2012 would question Crow's ability or categorize him as average.

He's a top 5 (10 at worst) goalie in this league and the Cap hit he's playing at, which was scoffed at particularly by Hawk fans when it was signed looks like a relative bargain now.

It's time for StaBo LOL, to become less free with draft picks. He doesn't have a Stanley Cup roster anymore. The potential upgrade of Price over Crawford doesn't change that.
You like to call people ignorant yet keep stating that Crawford is an average goaltender.
I'd be surprised if you actually know how LTIR works.
- MJL

It's time for StaBo to be fired cause you're right...Chicago does not have a Stanley Cup roster right now.

Unfortunately, the decree from above is to do anything we can to win while Kane and Toews still have legs...hence, the Panarin for Saad deal.

Again, mid-level draft picks are not gonna save this franchise or turn it around...Crawford for Price may not be the final solution, but it doesn't hurt and it's long-term impact would be minimal, despite your incorrect opinion.

You can talk all you want about what they should do, but my proposal is based on what they have done and been successful with in the past. Upgrade where possible and worry about the future when it's necessary...

I can't believe that anyone who has watched Hawk hockey since after his meltdown vs PHX in 2012 would question Crow's ability or categorize him as average.

He's a top 5 (10 at worst) goalie in this league and the Cap hit he's playing at, which was scoffed at particularly by Hawk fans when it was signed looks like a relative bargain now.
- HawkintheD

I'm not looking to get into a Crawford discussion with yet another blind homer, but I will only say this...

Blackhawks homers seem to conveniently forget how he nearly single-handedly lost the Detroit series in 2013 when Chicago had one of the most stacked rosters in our history. Due to his mediocre play and soft goals, Crow out is into a nearly insurmountable 3-1 series deficit...luckily, we had the offensive horses to claw our way out of it and won Game 7 in OT.

Ditto in 2014, except his terrible play lead us to another 3-1 deficit against Los Angeles, which was simply too much to overcome despite Chicago's best efforts after pushing it to Game 7. Does nobody remember Justin Williams goal from the side of our net? lol

How about Game 7 against St. Louis when he let Troy Brouwer sit in the goal crease and score on a tap-in to ultimately seal our fate? Come on, man...

Look, I understand...Crawford plays solid sometimes and Blackhawks fans think he's God, but he gives up too many soft goals and his rebound control is atrocious. For some reason, he gives up on plays too soon...just doesn't have the battle or compete that guys like Quick do.

I could obviously think of worse goalies, but I could easily think of 5-7 off the top of my head that I'd select in a heartbeat over Crawford. Quit drinkin' the home-team sauce, bud...

I'm not looking to get into a Crawford discussion with yet another blind homer, but I will only say this...

Look, I understand...Crawford plays solid sometimes and Blackhawks fans think he's God, but he gives up too many soft goals and his rebound control is atrocious. For some reason, he gives up on plays too soon...just doesn't have the battle or compete that guys like Quick do.

I could obviously think of worse goalies, but I could easily think of 5-7 off the top of my head that I'd select in a heartbeat over Crawford. Quit drinkin' the home-team sauce, bud...
- Hawks18

1) Jonathan Quick
2) Carey Price
3) Braden Holtby
4) Sergei Bobrovsky
5) Matt Murray

6) Andrei Vasilevskiy
7) Devan Dubnyk
8) Henrik Lundqvist
9) Tuukka Rask
10) John Gibson

Look, I managed to come up with 10 goalies...I could see an argument for Crow between 7-10, but those are guys (plus Cory Schneider) that I believe are simply more talented than Crawford. Top-5 would be ridiculous, though.

His salary cap hit, while significantly cheaper than the top-3 goalies is still in the top-10...so, it's not necessarily some major bargain or anything, lol.

It's time for StaBo to be fired cause you're right...Chicago does not have a Stanley Cup roster right now.

Unfortunately, the decree from above is to do anything we can to win while Kane and Toews still have legs...hence, the Panarin for Saad deal.

Again, mid-level draft picks are not gonna save this franchise or turn it around...Crawford for Price may not be the final solution, but it doesn't hurt and it's long-term impact would be minimal, despite your incorrect opinion.

You can talk all you want about what they should do, but my proposal is based on what they have done and been successful with in the past. Upgrade where possible and worry about the future when it's necessary...
- Hawks18

Speaking of ignorance, what you propose is not what they've done and been successful with in the past, nor is it how the Hawks were built into a 3 time Cup champion team.

How about Game 7 against St. Louis when he let Troy Brouwer sit in the goal crease and score on a tap-in to ultimately seal our fate? Come on, man...


- Hawks18

The goaltender let Brouwer sit in the goal crease? It's becoming more clear. You have a gripe against Crawford which is the reasoning for the ridiculous offer you proposed for a player that is not a need for the team.

Speaking of ignorance, what you propose is not what they've done and been successful with in the past, nor is it how the Hawks were built into a 3 time Cup champion team.
- MJL

Really? Do you even follow hockey? Bowman traded draft picks in both 2013 and 2015 at the deadline to acquire pivotal players...he picked up Handzus and Vermette. Plus, he unsuccessfully dealt picks to acquire Andrew Ladd in 2016...please stop cause you clearly don't know what you're talking about, lol.

Really? Do you even follow hockey? Bowman traded draft picks in both 2013 and 2015 at the deadline to acquire pivotal players...he picked up Handzus and Vermette. Plus, he unsuccessfully dealt picks to acquire Andrew Ladd in 2016...please stop cause you clearly don't know what you're talking about, lol.
- Hawks18

More ignorance, as if I said that Chicago never made a trade. The backbone of the 3 Cup teams in Chicago was built through the draft, including Keith, Toews, Kane, Seabrooke, Hjalmarsson, Saad, and others. A big free agent signing of Hossa and some key trades supplemented that roster. Unfortunately when you have that good of a team and a lot of good players, the cap eats you alive and forces moves that degrade the roster. The deal you propose is the wrong approach.