[img]image of 3 testis
- VANTEL[/ img]


A match made in heaven

Sorry I had to edit it out

Sorry I had to edit it out
- WhiteLie

but thank you for leaving "3 testis"

Sorry I had to edit it out
- WhiteLie

Gaunce shoots like a boy scout. He better hope for more pucks hitting his ass

but thank you for leaving "3 testis"
- Symba007

Hey I still found it funny, it just needed a little censoring

It's his first full season in NHL. Should we have pegged Horvat a bottom six too? It takes longer to develop power forwards who can play in the top 6 in the NHL. The scoring comes last. Ask Bertuzzi on his take.
- Nuck4U

Not a good comparison.


Bo Horvat plays a power forward game and is only 1 year older than JV. Bo also plays center, a much more difficult position to play as a young player than winger. There's a reason why one guy developed/adjusted faster and better than the other guy, he's flat out better.


Bertuzzi already had a 18 goal/39 point NHL season by Jake's age.


I like Jake, but it's time to get over his draft position and adjust expectations. That way you won't be disappointed later. If he can be a 3rd liner who's a beast on the forecheck and can pop in 15 goals a season then he's still a very nice player to have. A less dirty Raffi Torres or a 3rd line version of Kreider/E.Kane.

- A_SteamingLombardi

oh yes I forgot they already had that one!

I think you just answered it. If they are not regular NHLers then they are not really NHLers (by default the next level below is AHL)
- WhiteLie

No that's not how it works. Fringe means in between. They are trying to establish a role.

he causes a lot of late night slush storms at my place
- Nucker101

Fixed

No that's not how it works. Fringe means in between. They are trying to establish a role.
- Nuck4U

Okay, from now on we'll say "lack of legit NHL'ers"


Semantics...

Not a good comparison.


Bo Horvat plays a power forward game and is only 1 year older than JV. Bo also plays center, a much more difficult position to play as a young player than winger. There's a reason why one guy developed/adjusted faster and better than the other guy, he's flat out better.


Bertuzzi already had a 18 goal/39 point NHL season by Jake's age.


I like Jake, but it's time to get over his draft position and adjust expectations. That way you won't be disappointed later. If he can be a 3rd liner who's a beast on the forecheck and can pop in 15 goals a season then he's still a very nice player to have. A less dirty Raffi Torres or a 3rd line version of Kreider/E.Kane.
- Nucker101

Okay, from now on we'll say "lack of legit NHL'ers"


Semantics...
- Nucker101

No that's not how it works. Fringe means in between. They are trying to establish a role.
- Nuck4U

Its exactly how it works when there discussing whether players are in one league or another, "in between" doesn't exist. I might fill in for my boss when he's on holidays but that doesn't mean I am promoted, I still have my job and am next in line to fill when he is absent - same thing here

Name them and provide objective evidence of this claim.
- Nuck4U

Burm, number 14 forward equals ahl
dowd, filler traded for #feelings
strech, not a regular NHLr on most rosters
biega, number 8 or 9 on the depth chart
boucher, ahl all year
guance, zero goals

Boucher's getting some nice looks

Burm, number 14 forward equals ahl
dowd, filler traded for #feelings
strech, not a regular NHLr on most rosters
biega, number 8 or 9 on the depth chart
boucher, ahl all year
guance, zero goals
- Pres.cup

Gagner has been playing like Linden Vey so far too

Boucher, Dowd, Gaunce, Biega, Stecher, and Burmistrov.

Nearly all have passed through waivers at some point recently in their careers. The contentious one is Stecher. I am not sure if the link will work but it goes to a HERO chart that shows him slightly below a typical 3rd pairing defender, which you could say it not NHL calibre

https://public.tableau.co...QDZQXM?:display_count=yes
- WhiteLie

Beat me to it

Gagner has been playing like Linden Vey so far too
- Nucker101

Vey

Not a good comparison.


Bo Horvat plays a power forward game and is only 1 year older than JV. Bo also plays center, a much more difficult position to play as a young player than winger. There's a reason why one guy developed/adjusted faster and better than the other guy, he's flat out better.


Bertuzzi already had a 18 goal/39 point NHL season by Jake's age.


I like Jake, but it's time to get over his draft position and adjust expectations. That way you won't be disappointed later. If he can be a 3rd liner who's a beast on the forecheck and can pop in 15 goals a season then he's still a very nice player to have. A less dirty Raffi Torres or a 3rd line version of Kreider/E.Kane.
- Nucker101

The comparison was give it time as to NHL development of player type or ceiling. Plus Bo is and was more ready and mature then JV to handle NHL demands so the age argument isn't applicable.

You are hung up on his draft position lol and remind everyone of it lol.

Again, listen to Burtuzzi's take on JV not compare their careers. I would be okay with your projection but it's too early in JV's development to know his ceiling yet. Last season everyone was calling him a bust and can't play in the NHL. Patience.

First learn the details of power forward play and then we'll see about the scoring. Plus who he's playing with too.

Vey
- VANTEL

Some players just can't do what they do at the NHL level.

Okay, from now on we'll say "lack of legit NHL'ers"


Semantics...
- Nucker101

No and look at some other fringe guys like Weber on the Preds excelling. I can provide more examples of ex. Canuck fringe players doing well on other teams.

Some players just can't do what they do at the NHL level.
- LeftCoaster

We call those players Canucks

Its exactly how it works when there discussing whether players are in one league or another, "in between" doesn't exist. I might fill in for my boss when he's on holidays but that doesn't mean I am promoted, I still have my job and am next in line to fill when he is absent - same thing here
- WhiteLie

It's not filling in if playing in the NHL and keeping that roster spot.

We call those players Canucks
- VANTEL

the Bulldog having a nice game.

the Bulldog having a nice game.
- LeftCoaster