They have also made some mistakes, yzermans 💩 stinks just like Bennings
- 1970vintage

Everyone makes mistakes, he pooched his first draft, however, his pluses far outweigh his minuses....which is the opposite for Benning.

Benning wars

Everyone makes mistakes, he pooched his first draft, however, his pluses far outweigh his minuses....which is the opposite for Benning.
- LeftCoaster

I disagree, I think he’s about 50/50 on his trades/signing (which isn’t good) and in the top 1/3 of GM at the draft. You can criticize the first couple years for trading picks etc as a strategy, but I bet there was a lot of pressure to remain competitive...

They interviewed him and he said that's nice but it won't outright sway his decision as to whether he's staying or leaving. It takes two or three years to build once they break ground, that has to be considered. He's 27 next season.
- LeftCoaster

It's going to come down to whether or not he thinks the Island can win the cup in the next 4-5 years, if so he'll stay, if not he'll move on. A lot is going to depend on how the TDL goes and if Snow can convince JT on his vision for the team. My guess is JT is getting really tired of all the drama with the team having moved to Brooklyn and now moving back.

I've been praising Yzerman and wanting Aquilini to get his assistant GM Julien Brisebois as our next GM. They were handed Stamkos and Hedman but they put a helluva team together to add to those two.
- LeftCoaster

So another first time gm

Stick with jb for 3 more years, fire him after 2 if necassary.

If any of them become NHL players.
- Marwood

Positivity from the woodpile

Isn’t JV already an NHL’er?

Man with what has happened the last few yrs I need something to try and look forward too

I disagree, I think he’s about 50/50 on his trades/signing (which isn’t good) and in the top 1/3 of GM at the draft. You can criticize the first couple years for trading picks etc as a strategy, but I bet there was a lot of pressure to remain competitive...
- 1970vintage

Benning's big issue right now is the four year commitment .No on would complain about a one or two year contract but 4 years on a guy batting 500 is a big step

I disagree, I think he’s about 50/50 on his trades/signing (which isn’t good) and in the top 1/3 of GM at the draft. You can criticize the first couple years for trading picks etc as a strategy, but I bet there was a lot of pressure to remain competitive...
- 1970vintage

I'd like someone to take the good that Benning has done and continue on with it, much like Yzerman did with Stamkos and Hedman.

And yes he's had some blunders, as I said, I'm still of the opinion his wins far outweigh his losses. GM's job is a lot more than trades and signings. His asset-management has been good, his prospect pool is deep despite winning a lot and his drafting has been outstanding.

I'd like someone to take the good that Benning has done and continue on with it, much like Yzerman did with Stamkos and Hedman.

And yes he's had some blunders, as I said, I'm still of the opinion his wins far outweigh his losses. GM's job is a lot more than trades and signings. His asset-management has been good, his prospect pool is deep despite winning a lot and his drafting has been outstanding.
- LeftCoaster

This is great, so what do they give us for Guddy? It is meant to be

This is great, so what do they give us for Guddy? It is meant to be
- Bakwas

That would be nice if Yzerman can play nice with Benning and not bend him over a barrel and give it to him up the whazzo.

Benning's big issue right now is the four year commitment .No on would complain about a one or two year contract but 4 years on a guy batting 500 is a big step
- VANTEL

I don't think a one or two year deal is realistic, can't think of a GM who's signed an extension like that. I'm not a fan of Benning's, obviously, but if he stays for another four years that's fine because I can see some light at the end of the tunnel.

I wouldn't be upset to see him go though.

Benning's big issue right now is the four year commitment .No on would complain about a one or two year contract but 4 years on a guy batting 500 is a big step
- VANTEL

4 year commitment? You mean LE, or has JB signed an extension?

I am not a pro JB guy per se, but the critics here complain that he has no draft picks playing in the NHL. In the same time frame Yzerman has Brayden Pointe. Drouhin, it seems was a bust (lots of players selected after who have had more impact) though he made out well in that trade. Now, there are plenty of guys drafted before that who are starting to make their mark, so I think we need to see what the next we seasons look like before we can compare.

I'd like someone to take the good that Benning has done and continue on with it, much like Yzerman did with Stamkos and Hedman.

And yes he's had some blunders, as I said, I'm still of the opinion his wins far outweigh his losses. GM's job is a lot more than trades and signings. His asset-management has been good, his prospect pool is deep despite winning a lot and his drafting has been outstanding.
- LeftCoaster

Jason Garrison

Nuff said

4 year commitment? You mean LE, or has JB signed an extension?

I am not a pro JB guy per se, but the critics here complain that he has no draft picks playing in the NHL. In the same time frame Yzerman has Brayden Pointe. Drouhin, it seems was a bust (lots of players selected after who have had more impact) though he made out well in that trade. Now, there are plenty of guys drafted before that who are starting to make their mark, so I think we need to see what the next we seasons look like before we can compare.
- 1970vintage

Me personally I don't dislike him nor do I like him. There is part of him that I am not a fan of (his unwillingness to move contracts) but I also realize there are not better options.

I don't think a one or two year deal is realistic, can't think of a GM who's signed an extension like that. I'm not a fan of Benning's, obviously, but if he stays for another four years that's fine because I can see some light at the end of the tunnel.

I wouldn't be upset to see him go though.
- LeftCoaster

It would be a four year deal

It would be a four year deal
- VANTEL

You know the nice thing about signing a manager, coach etc to an “x” year contract? You can fire them any time you like. Peanuts compared to a player contract.

I don't think a one or two year deal is realistic, can't think of a GM who's signed an extension like that. I'm not a fan of Benning's, obviously, but if he stays for another four years that's fine because I can see some light at the end of the tunnel.

I wouldn't be upset to see him go though.
- LeftCoaster

Based on where the team is in its development , I'm totally fine with 4 more years of Benning. His drafting alone is worth keeping him on. Upgrading the prospects in system in my opinion is still the single most important step to getting the team back to respectability. An ideal situation would be a new gm and Benning just dealing with scouting and talent evaluation. But it's highly unlikely he's willing to take the step back. So keep doing your thing Jimbo... you've got us on the right track !

You know the nice thing about signing a manager, coach etc to an “x” year contract? You can fire them any time you like. Peanuts compared to a player contract.
- 1970vintage

That is what it would need to come down to. Then again Benning could be on the upswing course and last the full term.

Based on where the team is in its development , I'm totally fine with 4 more years of Benning. His drafting alone is worth keeping him on. Upgrading the prospects in system in my opinion is still the single most important step to getting the team back to respectability. An ideal situation would be a new gm and Benning just dealing with scouting and talent evaluation. But it's highly unlikely he's willing to take the step back. So keep doing your thing Jimbo... you've got us on the right track !
- Bullfrog77

It is too early to give him high praise on drafting. Boeser has played 45 games and JV three years later is just beginning.

Don't get me wrong everything looks very positive but we need it to play out more.

It is too early to give him high praise on drafting. Boeser has played 45 games and JV three years later is just beginning.

Don't get me wrong everything looks very positive but we need it to play out more.
- VANTEL

But Yzerman is the gold standard, and the only player from 2014 to pan out will be Pointe, a 3rd round pick.

But Yzerman is the gold standard, and the only player from 2014 to pan out will be Pointe, a 3rd round pick.
- 1970vintage

Lol.... of course Stevie y looks good, he has Hedman and Stamkos in their prime, tanked when stamkos was injured and got Drouin.
His trades and drafting as well as signing are meh.... linden is better...

But Yzerman is the gold standard, and the only player from 2014 to pan out will be Pointe, a 3rd round pick.
- 1970vintage

Not me saying that.I think TB as an organization have done well , but I don't think Stevie Y was the reason . They have been a smart organization long before him

Me personally I don't dislike him nor do I like him. There is part of him that I am not a fan of (his unwillingness to move contracts) but I also realize there are not better options.
- VANTEL

Where is this coming from? He dumped Bieksa and Garrison (both good trades) and they had NTCs. Are you referring to the Sedin's? There has to be a market as well as a player willing to waive in order to make a trade.

Jason Garrison

Nuff said
- 1970vintage

He traded what, a second round pick for him? Benning sent a second round pick to LA for Vey. At least Garrison played full-time for three years in Tampa.

Where is this coming from? He dumped Bieksa and Garrison (both good trades) and they had NTCs. Are you referring to the Sedin's? There has to be a market as well as a player willing to waive in order to make a trade.
- CanuckDon

No it goes back to Hamhuis where he came out and said he is not going to ask players with NTC to waive them. Vrbata too.