ill actually rephrase since its not dumb to want him to not whine

what i saw a lot was "his whining is making the team worse"
- robz228

Consider the sources....

i would vote for complaining about eichel's body language as the dumbest thing you can possibly type
- robz228

I would say nicknaming reinhart skunk is pretty close to the top.

It started because posters thought he sucked or stunk at hockey.

He then was giving the name to defend him and some how prove that he was good.

He is horrible. The posters that thought he stunk, were indeed correct.

i would vote for complaining about eichel's body language as the dumbest thing you can possibly type
- robz228

or blaming a 4th liner who gets 6 minutes a night and actually hits somebody and shows emotion

it's nolan's fault we stink
- homiedclown

Risto's career average is 0.39 ppg. This year he is at 0.32 ppg.

Maybe its the Power Play... Because after all special teams don't matter, right?

or blaming a 4th liner who gets 6 minutes a night and actually hits somebody and shows emotion
- homiedclown

How many games has this won?

He is not having a good season
- Boss34

As compared to what? He has 3 less points in 37games this year than he did in 71games for MN last year. He's 7th on our team in total shots (producing more than Pouliot, Girgs and Reinhart who all saw top6 time). 2nd on the team in ATOI. Plays penalty kill a lot and has gotten us up to 11th this year on the PK.

He isn't a scorer. Never was or will be. So if we were hoping for a 50+ pt defender, he was the wrong one to bring in. I think he's done about as well as can be expected given the amount of minutes and PK he plays.

I would say nicknaming reinhart skunk is pretty close to the top.

It started because posters thought he sucked or stunk at hockey.

He then was giving the name to defend him and some how prove that he was good.

He is horrible. The posters that thought he stunk, were indeed correct.
- Boss34

actually he was the toy under the bed, since we got a bright new toy in Jack


that is what led to reinhart being named skunk


kid put up 89 points in the first 2 full seasons which is not bad

lack of leadership from others, bringing in pommer for a rw slot and trying the skunk as a 3rd line center is a big part of his drop off

as is no motivation for the kid to now play for this team


something happened in columbus, it all started south after the "benching"

i would vote for complaining about eichel's body language as the dumbest thing you can possibly type
- robz228

His body language will improve when the momentum swings

How many games has this won?
- Der Kaiser

how many has he lost?

Botts did say when he arrived that it would take him most of the season to fully evaluate the team.
I don’,t think he anticipated this level of incompetence, nor did he expect the injury bug to the D to be assignificant.
So I didn’t expect many trades until closer to the deadline myself.

I gotta believe by now he has a pretty solid picture in his mind of what this team is.
Many overpaid players for their current level of production.
He has to dump salary on several in order to right this ship...Okposo, Pommer, Bogo would huge steps, I’d take 2 of those 3.
Then capitalize on Kane trade.
Get rid of Reinharts lazy ass.
- IonSabres

I agree, jbotts wasn't rushing to change anything. He was fine with losing to gain a better draft position. I can't believe the "experts" do not see this season for what it is.

The nhl formula hasn't changed.
High end talent wins in the nhl
Draft high end talent
High end talent is more likely at the top of the draft
Try and pick early if you are not serious contender.

Sabres to a tee

I would say nicknaming reinhart skunk is pretty close to the top.

It started because posters thought he sucked or stunk at hockey.

He then was giving the name to defend him and some how prove that he was good.

He is horrible. The posters that thought he stunk, were indeed correct.
- Boss34

How many rookies score 80+ points over their first two seasons? How many of them stink?

He's playing poorly. Lacks effort atm. Don't confuse that with complete lack of skill.

how many has he lost?
- homiedclown

Last nights comes to mind immediately

Risto's career average is 0.39 ppg. This year he is at 0.32 ppg.

Maybe its the Power Play... Because after all special teams don't matter, right?
- Der Kaiser

I expected players like risto, okposo, reinhart, ror to have numbers get better this year, not worse


it's a vexing situation

It's getting testy in here with the people that need to be right all the time...

Last nights comes to mind immediately
- Der Kaiser

It's getting testy in here with the people that need to be right all the time...
- jochfr

Well then (frank) you!

It's getting testy in here with the people that need to be right all the time...
- jochfr

I went to the eye doctors yesterday, saw the game very clearly last night

I encourage others to make their annual visit

actually he was the toy under the bed, since we got a bright new toy in Jack


that is what led to reinhart being named skunk


kid put up 89 points in the first 2 full seasons which is not bad

lack of leadership from others, bringing in pommer for a rw slot and trying the skunk as a 3rd line center is a big part of his drop off

as is no motivation for the kid to now play for this team


something happened in columbus, it all started south after the "benching"
- homiedclown

You could have a point here.

But if he were a real gamer he would get pissed, not quit.

Risto's career average is 0.39 ppg. This year he is at 0.32 ppg.

Maybe its the Power Play... Because after all special teams don't matter, right?
- Der Kaiser

Excellent information.
Coaching change might also play a role in the drop off. This whole 5 man rushing unit.

Well then (frank) you!
- RhinoFan

That's fair

I went to the eye doctors yesterday, saw the game very clearly last night

I encourage others to make their annual visit
- homiedclown

Sitting in the 100 level I see

I agree, jbotts wasn't rushing to change anything. He was fine with losing to gain a better draft position. I can't believe the "experts" do not see this season for what it is.

The nhl formula hasn't changed.
High end talent wins in the nhl
Draft high end talent
High end talent is more likely at the top of the draft
Try and pick early if you are not serious contender.

Sabres to a tee
- Boss34

actually it's build down the middle


eichel, ror combo is currently 30th out of 31 in year 3

Excellent information.
Coaching change might also play a role in the drop off. This whole 5 man rushing unit.
- Boss34

I don't understand why you have the #1 power play and change anything. Same guys as last year...but new coach means he has to change everything about the scheme. That was/is/will be silly.

Sitting in the 100 level I see
- ieetbred

actually it was at work with my feet up on the desk

I went to the eye doctors yesterday, saw the game very clearly last night

I encourage others to make their annual visit
- homiedclown

https://www.nhl.com/islan...an/t-277437420/c-56154503