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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Kris Baker says he could be here next year

But Botts seems to want guys to develop more slowly

It’ll be interesting to see how he handles Mittelstadt

- jdfitz77


I think he could be here this year.

If his college team gets eliminated early, sabres sign him, he plays 4 or 5 games, then off to rochester for the playoffs
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
Still trying to change the subject, lol

Please...
explain to us all the contradiction in your statements between how Risto isn’t a “top4” defenseman bc he plays a lot & we stink
Vs
How OEL can “make us good” even though he plays a lot for a team who stinks

Or u could just try to change the subject again I guess

- jdfitz77

The Coyotes defense hasn’t been half the problem the Sabres defense has been.

OEL had back to back 20 goal, 45-51 point seasons a few years ago. He was that entire team.

Ristolainen isn’t close to him, you again are comparing Risto to one of the best in the game. Just like you did with Karlsson.

Risto piggybacked off of a top PP unit to 40 points. Where is his production now?

OEL still produces
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:24 PM ET
I think he could be here this year.

If his college team gets eliminated early, sabres sign him, he plays 4 or 5 games, then off to rochester for the playoffs

- Boss34



Id bet they give him a real chance to earn a spot but I don't think they want a case of having him here getting 13 mins a night with players nobody's ever heard of.

feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Dec 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Middlestat looks (frank)ing good
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
The Coyotes defense hasn’t been half the problem the Sabres defense has been.

OEL had back to back 20 goal, 45-51 point seasons a few years ago. He was that entire team.

Ristolainen isn’t close to him, you again are comparing Risto to one of the best in the game. Just like you did with Karlsson.

Risto piggybacked off of a top PP unit to 40 points. Where is his production now?

OEL still produces

- sbroads24


Those are legit arguments...
WHICH ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE

I’m not saying Risto is better than or equal to OEL
You’re making that leap all on your own
Like u constantly do
(Like I’m assuming u also did with these imaginary statements I supposedly made about Risto > Karlsson)

My point is that,
you can’t say “player A” stinks bc he is on a bad team

It’s a dumb argument

If you’re gonna say that about Risto,
then u have to say that about Kane, & Eichel, and every other player who isn’t good enough to make his team good

Heck...
might as well throw McDavid in there too

All I’m commenting on is what a terribly ridiculous argument it is to say Risto stinks bc we are a bad team

I’m not saying Risto > OEL
Although I’m sure that’s how you’ll take it
I guess it makes sense that you’d cherry pick my arguments like u cherry pick stats
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
Id bet they give him a real chance to earn a spot but I don't think they want a case of having him here getting 13 mins a night with players nobody's ever heard of.
- Sabresfan-365


The nice thing is:

He's better than most of our current team

Imagine him with kane.

Silent sam's minutes could be available
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
I think he could be here this year.

If his college team gets eliminated early, sabres sign him, he plays 4 or 5 games, then off to rochester for the playoffs

- Boss34


I’d be cool with that
Idk if that’s a “Botts” thing to do or not though?
51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Dec 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
Alright everyone, remember this weekend... You're here for a short time, and we're a long time dead! Don't give up the ghost too early.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
rhut ro
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:36 PM ET
Those are legit arguments...
WHICH ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE

I’m not saying Risto is better than or equal to OEL
You’re making that leap all on your own
Like u constantly do
(Like I’m assuming u also did with these imaginary statements I supposedly made about Risto > Karlsson)

My point is that,
you can’t say “player A” stinks bc he is on a bad team

It’s a dumb argument

If you’re gonna say that about Risto,
then u have to say that about Kane, & Eichel, and every other player who isn’t good enough to make his team good

Heck...
might as well throw McDavid in there too

All I’m commenting on is what a terribly ridiculous argument it is to say Risto stinks bc we are a bad team

I’m not saying Risto > OEL
Although I’m sure that’s how you’ll take it
I guess it makes sense that you’d cherry pick my arguments like u cherry pick stats

- jdfitz77

Dude, you did I’m not making this up out of thin air, and I don’t really care either. I used to say Myers was better than P.K. Subban.

My point is this -

It’s not Risto’s fault
It’s not O’Reilly’s fault
It’s not Kane’s fault
It’s not Eichel’s fault

Yet we are 30th, and those guys are constantly playing.

I think the core, specifically Ristolainen and O’Reilly are not as good as their reputation. I think Risto is barely a top 4 D man, and O’Reilly is just an everyday 2nd line center who gets deployed like he’s Bergeron. I think Eichel is great, I think Kane has been excellent this year

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Nice little plays by Mittsey. Glad he gets the apple on that one.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Middlestadt assist
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
Middlestadt assist
- sbroads24



Their defence might be worse than ours
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
Middlestat looks (frank)ing good
- feetontheair22


He’s looked good the whole tournament.....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
50/50
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:49 PM ET
50/50
- homiedclown



thats a good goal
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
I’d be cool with that
Idk if that’s a “Botts” thing to do or not though?

- jdfitz77



Mitts is the real deal.

Can't hold him back:
With hirsher and nolan already playing.

This would be like eichel playing in rochester.

Obviously they will see where he's at :

Ticket sales and open spots makes this look like a slam dunk
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
thats a good goal
- Stripes77

yeah saw a different angle after I posted it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:51 PM ET
I'd like to see our multi millionaires play this hard
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 4:53 PM ET


I think the core, specifically Ristolainen and O’Reilly are not as good as their reputation. I think Risto is barely a top 4 D man, and O’Reilly is just an everyday 2nd line center who gets deployed like he’s Bergeron. I think Eichel is great, I think Kane has been excellent this year

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

- sbroads24

pretty much agree

ror is overpaid which is all I will add
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Dec 29 @ 4:55 PM ET
What's USA's path to the knockout round if they lose today?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Dec 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
What's USA's path to the knockout round if they lose today?
- Sabresfan-365

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
Id bet they give him a real chance to earn a spot but I don't think they want a case of having him here getting 13 mins a night with players nobody's ever heard of.
- Sabresfan-365


How do they give him this chance though? I'm guessing he'll either want to return to Minn or play in Buffalo. The minute he signs, he loses eligibility.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Dec 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
What's USA's path to the knockout round if they lose today?
- Sabresfan-365

Still got play Finland in the group stage. Slovakia holds the tie breaker.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
pretty much agree

ror is overpaid which is all I will add

- homiedclown



Ror is probably overpaid but by how much?

For a guy who was a year away from unrestricted free agency to sign / extend with the worst team in the league. That has to factor into "overpayment"

Same with okposo
Overpaid ,but it's buffalo:

We are not a big city
We do not have warm weather during hockey season
We are bottom feeders

No way these guys come here ,unless we overpay
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