Honestly, I was curious as to how soon I would hear that this year.

2 days.
- BeadyEyedDouche

The falls are freezing up. Cool pics on the net.
traveled over the north Grand island bridge and the river, it was pretty much frozen over. That was new years day.

The falls are freezing up. Cool pics on the net.
traveled over the north Grand island bridge and the river, it was pretty much frozen over. That was new years day.
- cabin

We also live in the northern hemisphere and are experiencing this phenomenon called "winter".

Crazy, I know, but freezing temperatures during the cold part of the year do not prove global warming and climate change wrong.

And you're talking to one of it's biggest skeptics, in all honesty.

I'm of the opinion that the over 2000 nuclear test explosions conducted by the superpowers of the planet Earth are the main cause of "global warming" over the past 50 years.

Seriously. Look it up. Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the governments of the world have conducted over 2000 nuclear test explosions.

TWO-THOUSAND NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS IN HALF A CENTURY.

Really think about that.

Honestly, I was curious as to how soon I would hear that this year.

2 days.
- BeadyEyedDouche

sun wobbles

our temp flux is very similar to mars

sun wobbles

our temp flux is very similar to mars
- homiedclown

What I find fascinating about modern science is how eerily it resembles Christianity at it's height.

An unquestionable canon, where all alternative ideas are outright rejected by the scientific community, which is literally built on proving itself wrong over and over again with new doctrine.

Really think about that.
- BeadyEyedDouche

https://www.washingtontim...te-change-ice-age-retrea/

What I find fascinating about modern science is how eerily it resembles Christianity at it's height.

An unquestionable canon, where all alternative ideas are outright rejected by the scientific community, which is literally built on proving itself wrong over and over again with new doctrine.
- BeadyEyedDouche

science has NOTHING to do with religion

science has NOTHING to do with religion
- homiedclown

"..."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/31/mars-also-undergoing-climate-change-ice-age-retrea/
- homiedclown

I can't take The Washington Times as a credible source of scientific information, I'm sorry.

science has NOTHING to do with religion
- homiedclown

Which is funny, too, because you linked me to a newspaper that is vehemently Christian, to an article that claims MARS IS HAVING GLOBAL WARMING.

You can't be serious?

I can't take The Washington Times as a credible source of scientific information, I'm sorry.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I have been hearing the sun wobble theory for many years, including my physics teacher at a liberal college in 1997


but continue, to someone else

I have been hearing the sun wobble theory for many years, including my physics teacher at a liberal college in 1997


but continue, to someone else
- homiedclown

Sol is traveling billions of miles per hour through space and we're traveling behind it in a vortex. Of course there's going to be wobbling. The Earth itself wobbles on it's own axis, and this wobbling causes periods of warming and cooling every 15,000 years or something... Which coincides with our current occupied state.

The problem is, that in the past century, the numbers are astronomically higher than they should be but you keep reading a Christian newspaper that publishes science articles and I'll keep actually educating myself on the most polarizing and misunderstood topic affecting out planet.

lehner to the islanders

greiss (islanders eating 1 mil per), sang and a prospect coming back


just chatter instigated from islanders

Sol is traveling billions of miles per hour through space and we're traveling behind it in a vortex. Of course there's going to be wobbling. The Earth itself wobbles on it's own axis, and this wobbling causes periods of warming and cooling every 15,000 years or something... Which coincides with our current occupied state.

The problem is, that in the past century, the numbers are astronomically higher than they should be but you keep reading a Christian newspaper that publishes science articles and I'll keep actually educating myself on the most polarizing and misunderstood topic affecting out planet.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I just posted a quick link to get you to shut up


I have never been rude to you, however

GET OFF MY (frank)ING ASS


it's f@cking 10 degrees in florida with the win chill, I don't need a lecture from you

I moved down here to be warm and avoid NY a$$holes

I just posted a quick link to get you to shut up


I have never been rude to you, however

GET OFF MY (frank)ING ASS


it's f@cking 10 degrees in florida with the win chill, I don't need a lecture from you

I moved down here to be warm and avoid NY a$$holes
- homiedclown

Oh man, try -30 with the wind chill and get back to me

We also live in the northern hemisphere and are experiencing this phenomenon called "winter".

Crazy, I know, but freezing temperatures during the cold part of the year do not prove global warming and climate change wrong.

And you're talking to one of it's biggest skeptics, in all honesty.

I'm of the opinion that the over 2000 nuclear test explosions conducted by the superpowers of the planet Earth are the main cause of "global warming" over the past 50 years.

Seriously. Look it up. Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the governments of the world have conducted over 2000 nuclear test explosions.

TWO-THOUSAND NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS IN HALF A CENTURY.

Really think about that.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Total world electricity production was 20,261 TeraWatt hours (TWh) in 2008.

Power plant output in watts is: 20,261 TWh ÷ 365 days/year ÷ 24 hours/day = 2.31 TW

Texas is 696,241 km2, so, 1,000 w/m2 x 1,000,000 m2/km2 x 696,241 km2 = 696,241,000,000,000 Watts = 696.241 TW

So, the sunlight falling on Texas at noon is equivalent to 696 TW solar energy ÷ 2.31 TW power plant output = 301 times the output of power plants.


You think nukes have any impact at all on the overall? The entire energy released by all the tests through 1996 is 2,135,000 terajoules.

1 watthour is 3600 joules, so 1 terawatt hour is equal to 3600 terajoules. The total output of all the power plants on earth in one year is equal to 72,939,600 terajoules. Or about 36 times the entire total of all nuclear testing ever. N Korea since '96 is so small as to not even be equivalent to a drop in the bucket.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_yield

Calling it Global Warming is stupid. Not everywhere will get warmer, and in some places warmer temps plus more CO2 equals a longer growing season with healthier crops means more prosperity. It won't be bad everywhere. Overall temps are rising, yes, but not everywhere.

Total world electricity production was 20,261 TeraWatt hours (TWh) in 2008.

Power plant output in watts is: 20,261 TWh ÷ 365 days/year ÷ 24 hours/day = 2.31 TW

Texas is 696,241 km2, so, 1,000 w/m2 x 1,000,000 m2/km2 x 696,241 km2 = 696,241,000,000,000 Watts = 696.241 TW

So, the sunlight falling on Texas at noon is equivalent to 696 TW solar energy ÷ 2.31 TW power plant output = 301 times the output of power plants.


You think nukes have any impact at all on the overall? The entire energy released by all the tests through 1996 is 2,135,000 terajoules.

1 watthour is 3600 joules, so 1 terawatt hour is equal to 3600 terajoules. The total output of all the power plants on earth in one year is equal to 72,939,600 terajoules. Or about 36 times the entire total of all nuclear testing ever. N Korea since '96 is so small as to not even be equivalent to a drop in the bucket.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_yield

Calling it Global Warming is stupid. Not everywhere will get warmer, and in some places warmer temps plus more CO2 equals a longer growing season with healthier crops means more prosperity. It won't be bad everywhere. Overall temps are rising, yes, but not everywhere.
- Wetbandit1

Calling it global warming hasn't actually been a thing in a few years. It's generally called climate change now.

And yes, I absolutely think that detonating a bunch of nuclear bombs has an impact on the climate. For one, they are powerful explosions, which causes shock-waves/seismic activity, of which the effects we really can't predict, not to mention, the radiation and fallout of the blasts.

North Korea's nuclear program is a joke. The equivalent of kids playing with bottle-rockets.

There have been thousands of "unofficial" nuclear detonations in addition to the ones in the link you provided. The biggest problem is the impact of the radiation on the environment. Think like what a microwave does to food on a macro-scale.

It's not just effecting things we can detect.

Calling it global warming hasn't actually been a thing in a few years. It's generally called climate change now.

And yes, I absolutely think that detonating a bunch of nuclear bombs has an impact on the climate. For one, they are powerful explosions, which causes shock-waves/seismic activity, of which the effects we really can't predict, not to mention, the radiation and fallout of the blasts.

North Korea's nuclear program is a joke. The equivalent of kids playing with bottle-rockets.

There have been thousands of "unofficial" nuclear detonations in addition to the ones in the link you provided. The biggest problem is the impact of the radiation on the environment. Think like what a microwave does to food on a macro-scale.

It's not just effecting things we can detect.
- BeadyEyedDouche

The only reason I included N Korea is because the info I posted was up until 1996, and I wanted to head off any "but you didn't include them!"

You said they made the Earth warmer.

I'm of the opinion that the over 2000 nuclear test explosions conducted by the superpowers of the planet Earth are the main cause of "global warming" over the past 50 years.
- Beady

Nukes are incredibly powerful devices capable of immense destruction, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't even a fart in the wind as far as that is concerned. That's how much it takes to push this in any one direction. Not even all the nukes detonated have made an impact.

There's no such thing as an unofficial nuclear detonation. There's one unclaimed detonation which everyone is pretty sure was Israel. There have been independent watchdogs as well as the US and Soviet/Russian monitoring equipment dating back pretty much to the beginning using seismographs and satellites. But no one can detonate one and escape being called out on any side.

Let's say for the sake of argument that there have been 10,000 total tests instead of the ~2,000. Multiply the number I gave you by 5. And you're still 26M TJ shy of one year of Earths total energy output and still woefully shy of the amount of solar energy that hits Texas at noon.

The only reason I included N Korea is because the info I posted was up until 1996, and I wanted to head off any "but you didn't include them!"

You said they made the Earth warmer.



Nukes are incredibly powerful devices capable of immense destruction, but in the grand scheme of things they aren't even a fart in the wind as far as that is concerned. That's how much it takes to push this in any one direction. Not even all the nukes detonated have made an impact.

There's no such thing as an unofficial nuclear detonation. There's one unclaimed detonation which everyone is pretty sure was Israel. There have been independent watchdogs as well as the US and Soviet/Russian monitoring equipment dating back pretty much to the beginning using seismographs and satellites. But no one can detonate one and escape being called out on any side.

Let's say for the sake of argument that there have been 10,000 total tests instead of the ~2,000. Multiply the number I gave you by 5. And you're still 26M TJ shy of one year of Earths total energy output and still woefully shy of the amount of solar energy that hits Texas at noon.
- Wetbandit1

Air quotes.

And also, you simply cannot compare a nuclear explosion to an output of electrical, even nuclear-generated, energy. They're completely different beasts. Not even solar energy can be compared. They do different things and have different effects and different energies.

2,000 nuclear explosions over 50 years = 40 nuclear explosions on average per year but no effect on the planet whatsoever?

Yeah that's gonna be a big no.

I mean, hurricanes themselves have the destructive force of almost a dozen megatons of TNT per minute and they physically obliterate the environment.

Now imagine that condensed and radiated and done almost 50 times a year for 50 years in strategic, yet isolated locations that are still nevertheless a part of the jetstream and ocean currents across the planet.

And from what I'm reading, all of the nuclear tests combined and bombs dropped is equal to 540 megatons of TNT. That's like 20 Mt. St Helen's eruptions over half a century and you mean to tell me that wouldn't effect the environment in any way?

Midnight snack. Leftover Fried chicken and homemade Mac salad.

No nuclear bombs. No scientific or religious debates.

Damn that’s good.

And from what I'm reading, all of the nuclear tests combined and bombs dropped is equal to 540 megatons of TNT. That's like 20 Mt. St Helen's eruptions over half a century and you mean to tell me that wouldn't effect the environment in any way?
- BeadyEyedDouche

Yeah, sure radioactive isotopes are scattered all over the place. You were talking directly about climate change, and all the nukes and thousands more imaginary ones have a negligible at best impact on that as clearly evidenced by the infinitesimal amount of relative energy they've released compared to the energy humans produce, solar energy, hurricanes, earthquakes...

You keep moving to goal posts. Now it's about environmental impacts.

Midnight snack. Leftover Fried chicken and homemade Mac salad.

No nuclear bombs. No scientific or religious debates.

Damn that’s good.
- Der Kaiser

We made fried chicken last night as well. Debating about having it for lunch, though massive time constraint going home and then coming back to work.

We made fried chicken last night as well. Debating about having it for lunch, though massive time constraint going home and then coming back to work.
- thatsapickle

It hold up pretty well in aluminum foil and a paper towel.

It hold up pretty well in aluminum foil and a paper towel.
- Der Kaiser

That's true, but we have smashed potatoes too... and you can't pass that up.

It could make for a nice dinner again.

I'll see what the plan is, and go to lunch accordingly.

Midnight snack. Leftover Fried chicken and homemade Mac salad.

No nuclear bombs. No scientific or religious debates.

Damn that’s good.
- Der Kaiser

I burn boiling water.