Ray Finkle
- washedup20

Laces out, Dan!

https://deadspin.com/buff...ns-how-dare-yo-1821757304

KB has sick talent


is it coaching
is it tyrod
or injury?
- homiedclown

Dude clearly can't run. It's 90% injury.

I'll judge him based on what he does with this draft. I'm looking at the draft order, and I could see an argument for 5 of the top 7 or 8 teams to take a QB. No draft is the same, but if it's a 2004 type scenario where Rivers, Roethlisberger and Manning go in the top 5, and the Bills pick Losman at 22, he might be better off waiting til next year to take a QB.

Obviously no one wants to hear that, but I'm thinking maybe Beane should trade both firsts this year for firsts next year and use 3 firsts next year to select whoever you want. If he can't move up and get a QB early, there no sense taking one before the 3rd or fourth round imo
- jcragcrumple

Big Ben went 11th... you guys picked lee evans at 13

Dude clearly can't run. It's 90% injury.
- Wetbandit1

He ran a 4.53 and 4.61 40 which is good speed for a 6'5 guy, but he has 0 quickness which is why he can't seperate

Big Ben went 11th... you guys picked lee evans at 13
- Slapjackzack

Yeah and then J.P at 22. The only other QB of note taken afterward was Matt Shaub, so I guess the Bills should have just not taken a QB.


Same with the year we took EJ. We didn't take the wrong QB, there just wasn't a good one.

So two lessons I guess

Don't take a QB just to take one

And don't take a QB with initials instead of a name

Laces out, Dan!
- Wetbandit1

I'll judge him based on what he does with this draft. I'm looking at the draft order, and I could see an argument for 5 of the top 7 or 8 teams to take a QB. No draft is the same, but if it's a 2004 type scenario where Rivers, Roethlisberger and Manning go in the top 5, and the Bills pick Losman at 22, he might be better off waiting til next year to take a QB.

Obviously no one wants to hear that, but I'm thinking maybe Beane should trade both firsts this year for firsts next year and use 3 firsts next year to select whoever you want. If he can't move up and get a QB early, there no sense taking one before the 3rd or fourth round imo
- jcragcrumple

He didn't acquire the extra picks to draft linebackers. He will give up the 2 firsts and next years first for the fourth overall and draft a qb.

He ran a 4.53 and 4.61 40 which is good speed for a 6'5 guy, but he has 0 quickness which is why he can't seperate
- sbroads24

I'm talking about now. He's got a torn meniscus. I've had that, it's not painful at all as long as that's all it is, but depending on how much is torn and the type of tear it can be tough to even walk because the cartilage gets jammed into places it's not supposed to be and it interferes with the normal mechanics. I had a hard time just bending my leg because of the way it tore and the amount. He probably won't tear it any worse, but he's hobbled.

He didn't acquire the extra picks to draft linebackers. He will give up the 2 firsts and next years first for the fourth overall and draft a qb.
- StaziakAttack

And who is a sure fire qb at 4 that’s worth 3 first round picks? Have a had time thinking we give up that much.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdfxhbUlgkD/



P.S. Sorry, Stripes.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdfxhbUlgkD/



P.S. Sorry, Stripes.
- buffalofan19

He had a lot of good points, no wonder there were empty beer cans under the tree at christmas, it all makes sense now!

And who is a sure fire qb at 4 that’s worth 3 first round picks? Have a had time thinking we give up that much.
- gordong

Its the draft, no qb is "sure fire" but, without a franchise qb there is no chance to win a super bowl. if we have the picks this year have to use them.

Its the draft, no qb is "sure fire" but, without a franchise qb there is no chance to win a super bowl. if we have the picks this year have to use them.
- StaziakAttack

Agreed

Its the draft, no qb is "sure fire" but, without a franchise qb there is no chance to win a super bowl. if we have the picks this year have to use them.
- StaziakAttack

doug williams
jeff hostetler
mark rypien
trent dilfer
brad johnson
joe flacco

and eli, twice

So now that the Drought is dead, who is the best player from that era (not including players from this year's team)?

It's Moorman, right?
- jcragcrumple

Freddy. Stevie.

Its the draft, no qb is "sure fire" but, without a franchise qb there is no chance to win a super bowl. if we have the picks this year have to use them.
- StaziakAttack

Of the last 16 Super Bowls, there's only 16 QB's who've played in them and there was only 2 Super Bowls where it didn't include Roethlisberger, Brady, Warner or Peyton Manning.

You don't just need a franchise QB. You need a legit 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

That Raiders/Buccaneers Super Bowl is the only anomaly but Joe Flacco is a franchise QB for sure and will probably get into the HoF no problem, especially if he plays in another SB (doubtful).

But the Raiders/Bucs game and the first Ravens SB are proof that you don't ALWAYS need a franchise QB. But what is this, a 7% chance of winning a Super Bowl without one?

Hey, the Bills had a 3% chance of making the playoffs last week. I like those odds.

Of the last 16 Super Bowls, there's only 16 QB's who've played in them and there was only 2 Super Bowls where it didn't include Roethlisberger, Brady, Warner or Peyton Manning.

You don't just need a franchise QB. You need a legit 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

That Raiders/Buccaneers Super Bowl is the only anomaly but Joe Flacco is a franchise QB for sure and will probably get into the HoF no problem, especially if he plays in another SB (doubtful).

But the Raiders/Bucs game and the first Ravens SB are proof that you don't ALWAYS need a franchise QB. But what is this, a 7% chance of winning a Super Bowl without one?

Hey, the Bills had a 3% chance of making the playoffs last week. I like those odds.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Whoa. I think that’s a stretch

Whoa. I think that’s a stretch
- sbroads24

Huge stretch.

I don't know where this 3% chance of making the playoffs is coming from. It was 17%. Still not good odds, but way better than 3%.

Huge stretch.

I don't know where this 3% chance of making the playoffs is coming from. It was 17%. Still not good odds, but way better than 3%.
- Wetbandit1

doug williams
jeff hostetler
mark rypien
trent dilfer
brad johnson
joe flacco

and eli, twice

It is a true pleasure to not see Mr. Moulson with the Blue & Gold, nice guy but its over.

One of my first games to watch in full and I was given a Josh Gorges citing

Whoa. I think that’s a stretch
- sbroads24

I don't think he's HoF worthy, but they love their QB's in this pass-happy era, so who knows.

But Flacco is a franchise QB, there is no denying that. It's not a stretch at all. He's one rung below Rodgers and one rung above Matt Ryan.

To say Flacco isn't a franchise QB is silly.

doug williams
jeff hostetler
mark rypien
trent dilfer
brad johnson
joe flacco

and eli, twice
- homiedclown

I'll throw Troy Aikman on there, too, if Eli is.

I don't think he's HoF worthy, but they love their QB's in this pass-happy era, so who knows.

But Flacco is a franchise QB, there is no denying that. It's not a stretch at all. He's one rung below Rodgers and one rung above Matt Ryan.

To say Flacco isn't a franchise QB is silly.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Depends on definition of “Franchise QB”

He’s in no way a top 10 QB right now

Of the last 16 Super Bowls, there's only 16 QB's who've played in them and there was only 2 Super Bowls where it didn't include Roethlisberger, Brady, Warner or Peyton Manning.

You don't just need a franchise QB. You need a legit 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

That Raiders/Buccaneers Super Bowl is the only anomaly but Joe Flacco is a franchise QB for sure and will probably get into the HoF no problem, especially if he plays in another SB (doubtful).

But the Raiders/Bucs game and the first Ravens SB are proof that you don't ALWAYS need a franchise QB. But what is this, a 7% chance of winning a Super Bowl without one?

Hey, the Bills had a 3% chance of making the playoffs last week. I like those odds.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I made the point that you won’t need a franchise QB once these guys retire. The Super Bowls have been dominated by a handful of hall of fame talent all at once, the like we prob won’t see ever again at one time.

The rest of the QBs in the league suck.

Prescott, Winston, newton, Ryan, goff, luck, Carr, mariota. One of them will prob win a super bowl but honestly they they are all nothing special. Better then Tyrod yes, but all are inconsistent.

Only good QB I see coming up is Wentz and who knows how ACL may effect him.