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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
Age is just a number - Pete Townsend, probably.
- hereticpride

He did write, "hope I die before I get old", lying (frank).
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 6 @ 4:31 PM ET
Still can't believe the Flyers have the best 3rd line center in hockey
- PhillySportsGuy

I didn’t realize you were a big Nolan Patrick fan
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 6 @ 4:31 PM ET


Weise cant ever catch a break

- KINGKENZO

Pitcure of him before he had some work done
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 6 @ 4:31 PM ET
Yes. It really has been fun to watch. I haven't posted much lately but I have been watching and his progress, plus the resurgence of Giroux, have been really amazing
- AllInForFlyers




I watched the game on the nbc sports app on the beach in fort Myers today. It was glorious. First “beach” day we had on the trip, though looking at the home temps I can’t complain
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 4:42 PM ET
Kind of incredible that they can have G, Coots & Jake on fire with Elliott playing well and still somehow not be in playoff position. Perfect example why you have to get everything you can out of every line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 4:46 PM ET
Then you have not played a lot of sports. I have played many sports most of my life and can assure you. When someone else sits over you and you watch that person a lot more close personally and see them struggle and no changes come. It makes you question absolutely.
- Buzzo


Did you ever make it to the professional level? What I've done is irrelevant but I seem to know better. They aren't snowflakes that need to be coddled. For example when Konecny was sat out it just made him more determined.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 6 @ 4:46 PM ET
Kind of incredible that they can have G, Coots & Jake on fire with Elliott playing well and still somehow not be in playoff position. Perfect example why you have to get everything you can out of every line.
- hereticpride

If hex could fix the second unit PP before the deadline
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
If hex could fix the second unit PP before the deadline
- Landsbergfan

My God. They have got to figure out something on that unit. Manning and Lehtera out on a PP is something I never want to see again. I would try something like

Flip(maybe even Laughton) Patrick Konecny
Gudas AMac

Obviously not thrilled with that blue line. Would be nice to get Sanhiem up and into one of those spots.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 5:20 PM ET
My God. They have got to figure out something on that unit. Manning and Lehtera out on a PP is something I never want to see again. I would try something like

Flip(maybe even Laughton) Patrick Konecny
Gudas AMac

Obviously not thrilled with that blue line. Would be nice to get Sanhiem up and into one of those spots.

- hereticpride


The 2nd unit right now needs a forward that can direct and QB the PP from the half wall along with Provorov at the point. The Flyers don't have that player available for the 2nd unit unless they break up the first unit.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jan 6 @ 5:21 PM ET
Did you ever make it to the professional level? What I've done is irrelevant but I seem to know better. They aren't snowflakes that need to be coddled. For example when Konecny was sat out it just made him more determined.
- MJL


This is why most posters here don't take what you say to serious.

No never made pro, but your asinine comment you know better is the best joke I have heard in a long time. Thanks for the laugh
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jan 6 @ 5:29 PM ET
wow quiet after a win and not a Ghoule detractor to be found....imagine that
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 5:32 PM ET
The 2nd unit right now needs a forward that can direct and QB the PP from the half wall along with Provorov at the point. The Flyers don't have that player available for the 2nd unit unless they break up the first unit.
- MJL

This is unfortunately true. I'm hoping that Patrick can develop into that player as he seems to be capable of making some very smart passes. The rest of his game just isn't there yet.
Skinner
Joined: 11.12.2015

Jan 6 @ 5:37 PM ET
Solid game all around, if not one of the best efforts of the year. Loved the start with
Goulbournes hit, only forward I thought struggled was Pactrick on the power play
He had a couple of blind pass turnovers. The D was solid and didn't give up a lot, thought Gudas and Manning back to looking like they did when they played so well against Ovechkin in Washington playoffs a couple of years ago. Gonna be hard to get Sanheim in when D has been solid. Hagg has had few rough shifts but overall still much better than Sanheim. Nothing to to with Vets Hak is playing best lineup he
Believes will give team best chance to win. Looking forward to hopefully, Neuvy getting in net tomorrow and playing well.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
http://bit.ly/2CKlk91

This guy is the anti-Hak. That stick almost reached the upper deck. 😍
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 6 @ 5:50 PM ET
Sushko and the Sound Attack slapping Bunnaman's Kitchener rangers around
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
This is why most posters here don't take what you say to serious.

No never made pro, but your asinine comment you know better is the best joke I have heard in a long time. Thanks for the laugh

- Buzzo


You got that response due to your unnecessary and irrelevant comment that I haven't played a lot of sports. Tit for tat.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 6:03 PM ET
This is unfortunately true. I'm hoping that Patrick can develop into that player as he seems to be capable of making some very smart passes. The rest of his game just isn't there yet.
- hereticpride


I also believe that Patrick will be that player at some point.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Jan 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
My God. They have got to figure out something on that unit. Manning and Lehtera out on a PP is something I never want to see again. I would try something like

Flip(maybe even Laughton) Patrick Konecny
Gudas AMac

Obviously not thrilled with that blue line. Would be nice to get Sanhiem up and into one of those spots.

- hereticpride


I wouldn't mind getting Laughton out there on the 2nd PP with his shot, at the very least while Sanheim is out.

When Sanheim comes back, I would put Patrick down low, kinda like Simmonds, but allow him to head behind the net. He's made a few good plays from behind the net, already.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 6 @ 6:07 PM ET
I didn’t realize you were a big Nolan Patrick fan
- Marc D


The_Journeyman
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Jan 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
Based on what I saw as his junior tendencies, I think Patrick could actually be a good complement on the right side on the PP1. Patrick had a much higher tendency to use his very accurate shot anytime he was from the center-lane to the right wing. On the left side, he would tend to skate to center to shoot or down the left wing to pass across. He might be more successful personally, and provide a different angle of attack on our current PP1 with the better control/distribution/netfront players on PP1.

If I'm correct, he could provide an added shooting component from the right side that Voracek does not provide usually. At the same time, Voracek could provide his higher level of puck control and distribution to the PP2. Voracek might help make our PP2 more relevant working the same position he does currently on the first.

This is not necessarily the answer, but something I've felt for awhile based on what I remember watching of him in junior.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 6 @ 6:17 PM ET
Will never happen. Hextall went out of his way to bring Weise and Lehtera here. That much money in the owners suite makes Hextall look like Homer. And he and Hak too buddy buddy to let either one look bad.


As pointed out, this narrative makes no sense. BUT, there are two weaknesses in the way Hextall manages players:
1) He is risk averse when it comes to sending players through waivers. He has said many times that it is never a good thing to lose an "asset" to another team for nothing, and he sees players as assets, even when we don't.
2) He has a weak spot for Laughton, like many fans do, protecting him in the expansion draft, and plugging away with him no matter what.

I would like to see:
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
Weal-Filppula-Voracek
Lindblom-Patrick-Simmonds
Raffl-Lehtera-Goulbourne

or Raffl-Vecchione-Lehtera

or at least Raffl-Laughton-Lehtera and Lehtera takes all of the faceoffs.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 6 @ 6:20 PM ET
wow quiet after a win and not a Ghoule detractor to be found....imagine that
- KINGKENZO


Ghoule did a great job today in his first game even though the line was caved in after the goal. They need to not have their patented let down against crap competition tomorrow.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 6 @ 6:20 PM ET
I wouldn't mind getting Laughton out there on the 2nd PP with his shot, at the very least while Sanheim is out.

When Sanheim comes back, I would put Patrick down low, kinda like Simmonds, but allow him to head behind the net. He's made a few good plays from behind the net, already.

- VladDrag



WOW! Good one!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 6 @ 6:21 PM ET
As pointed out, this narrative makes no sense. BUT, there are two weaknesses in the way Hextall manages players:
1) He is risk averse when it comes to sending players through waivers. He has said many times that it is never a good thing to lose an "asset" to another team for nothing, and he sees players as assets, even when we don't.
2) He has a weak spot for Laughton, like many fans do, protecting him in the expansion draft, and plugging away with him no matter what.


- hockeyal


How can you possibly use a decision made with regards to one player and call it a weakness in how he handles playerS? Hextall was absolutely correct to protect Laughton in the expansion draft and he is a good player for the Flyers currently. This hard on you have for Laughton is baseless.

Give me one example of how he is risk averse with regards to waivers and how that has hurt the Flyers?
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jan 6 @ 6:21 PM ET
I’m sure he hoped Lehtera would actually look like that....the only time Lehtera has been successful in this league he played with Taresenko....when they separated the two Lehtera went for a dump. I don’t remember Lehtera getting those type of high end talents to play with here for any extended time. He’s like a fish out water. He’s not good enough for a top 6 role here, and he sucks at a bottom 6 role.


You are right about one thing. Lehtera wasn't very effective once they moved him to wing. He actually struggled in international hockey at wing as well. Hmmm.
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