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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:26 PM ET
Must be all the top 5 picks.
Bergeron 45th
Marchand 71st
Pastrnak 25th
Heinan 116th
McAvoy 14th
Carlo 37th
Chara 56th

- Reubenkincade


Good outline of what the actual difference is between tanking and draftist takes. Though the former wants to expand to encompass the latter to excuse its core issues.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:29 PM ET
That was tough to watch but they still had a chance to win, I didn't listen I turned the sound off cant stand bob cole
- Bettmanhatesus



He is worse than time delayed broadcasts.
Just listen....
He is still calling that game 😜😂
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:30 PM ET
Good outline of what the actual difference is between tanking and draftist takes. Though the former wants to expand to encompass the latter to excuse its core issues.
- Nuck4U

MikeBabcock
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAIN'S COMING
Joined: 05.20.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:30 PM ET
I honestly don’t think Marner could crack the Canucks top 6 in a couple of years. And he’d be useless in the bottom 6.

5 goals? Hard pass.

- Nucker101

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:35 PM ET
Bergeron Krejci & Chara are not getting any younger. Bruins are not in as great a position as some may think.


As for Marner he is like any winger who doesn’t have a good C to play with. Easily checked down especially come the PO’s.
Look at a star like Kane & see how hard it is getting to be.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:35 PM ET

- Nucker101


You understood That?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:37 PM ET
Bergeron Krejci & Chara are not getting any younger. Bruins are not in as great a position as some may think.


As for Marner he is like any winger who doesn’t have a good C to play with. Easily checked down especially come the PO’s.
Look at a star like Kane & see how hard it is getting to be.

- Nighthawk

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:37 PM ET
You understood That?
- Reubenkincade

100%

picking high is a death sentence
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:43 PM ET
100%

picking high is a death sentence

- Nucker101



Just ask Daigle Stefan Yakupov...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 7 @ 10:43 PM ET
Can we put the whole team in the press box?
- VANTEL

lol VGK put together a PO team with 3-4 liners and our entire club (minus Boeser) should be taking a tour of the press box. The irony is astounding....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:44 PM ET
Just ask Daigle Stefan Yakupov...
- Nighthawk

exactly
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:45 PM ET
100%

picking high is a death sentence

- Nucker101


Lol oh don’t jerk him around. Lay it out that the core flaws are designing your team to fail doesn’t get the reward of the top pick(s) because of modern lotto.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:46 PM ET
lol VGK put together a PO team with 3-4 liners and our entire club (minus Boeser) should be taking a tour of the press box. The irony is astounding....
- LordHumungous



VGK has 5 goalies to our nada...
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:47 PM ET
lol VGK put together a PO team with 3-4 liners and our entire club (minus Boeser) should be taking a tour of the press box. The irony is astounding....
- LordHumungous


NHL speed kills....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:48 PM ET
Lol oh don’t jerk him around. Lay it out that the core flaws are designing your team to fail doesn’t get the reward of the top pick(s) because of modern lotto.
- Nuck4U

lol my bad, yeah, what i meant was that the goal should be to try and be as competitive as possible each and every year.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:48 PM ET
VGK has 5 goalies to our nada...
- Nighthawk


our boys will figure things out, have some faith
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:49 PM ET
lol VGK put together a PO team with 3-4 liners and our entire club (minus Boeser) should be taking a tour of the press box. The irony is astounding....
- LordHumungous

Being weak and slow down the middle makes everyone look brutal including the dmen.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 7 @ 10:50 PM ET


The highlight of this road trip through 2 games has to be Eric Gudbranson's 2 on 1 in overtime.


You can't teach hockey like that.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:51 PM ET
You understood That?
- Reubenkincade


Seemed like you did by your post showing draftist are about quality picks in all rounds to build without designing team to lose in season which is the core value to tanking and reaping the top pick score.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:51 PM ET
lol my bad, yeah, what i meant was that the goal should be to try and be as competitive as possible each and every year.
- Nucker101


I can see you cringing as you wrote that.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 10:52 PM ET
Within 3yrs...

Swedes out:
Hank
Daniel
Edler
Marky
Nillson

Swedes in:
EP
Dahlen
Holm maybe
Dahlin if lucky lol
or Boqvist


Well Vantel whats your take?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 10:56 PM ET
Within 8 yrs...

Swedes out:
Hank
Daniel
Edler
Marky
Nillson

Swedes in:
EP
Dahlen
Holm maybe
Dahlin if lucky lol


Well Vantel whats your take?

- Nighthawk



I fixed it for you
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 7 @ 10:59 PM ET
Within 3yrs...

Swedes out:
Hank
Daniel
Edler
Marky
Nillson

Swedes in:
EP
Dahlen
Holm maybe
Dahlin if lucky lol
or Boqvist


Well Vantel whats your take?

- Nighthawk


I don’t get the love for boqvist. Never seen him play but the stats suck and he’s 5’ 9” 154 pounds....

Not many top dmen that size
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 7 @ 11:03 PM ET
I don’t get the love for boqvist. Never seen him play but the stats suck and he’s 5’ 9” 154 pounds....

Not many top dmen that size

- canucksfan1944



Stecher?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 11:04 PM ET
lol my bad, yeah, what i meant was that the goal should be to try and be as competitive as possible each and every year.
- Nucker101


Now... now... don’t be misleading about draftists. They don’t want to trade away picks to compete. For a rebuild competing means development but you know you are getting a chance at a lotto pick.

Suttle point on draftist vs tanker is you don’t scuttle development for losses. Just draft well and throughout as often as possible. The more quality picks producing prospects the better chance their development balances out team.

But like I said before to cover the core flaw of tanking (flushing a season by design) they will adopt or add draftist cores to save face now in the modern lotto. So exposing that won’t make a difference.
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