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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 7 @ 11:08 PM ET
I don’t get the love for boqvist. Never seen him play but the stats suck and he’s 5’ 9” 154 pounds....

Not many top dmen that size

- canucksfan1944



He averaged 5:09 of ice time in the SHL.

He should just head over to the London knights.
They own his rights
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 7 @ 11:11 PM ET
He averaged 5:09 of ice time in the SHL.

He should just head over to the London knights.
They own his rights

- classic321


I believe he ripped it up at the under 17s last year?
I'd rather go Hughes when we pick 5th.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 7 @ 11:11 PM ET
I don’t get the love for boqvist. Never seen him play but the stats suck and he’s 5’ 9” 154 pounds....

Not many top dmen that size

- canucksfan1944



Quietly flies under the radar with Dahlin around. Given the right pairings his skating & offense fit our needs. If not Dahlin we look good if we take Tkachuk or Zadina. Not a fan of Russians so rather trade down if Svechnikov is around & get a sweetener.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 7 @ 11:12 PM ET
I can see you cringing as you wrote that.
- Reubenkincade


Don’t be hard on him it can happen when the truth is exposed on following a faith....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 7 @ 11:20 PM ET
Now... now... don’t be misleading about draftists. They don’t want to trade away picks to compete. For a rebuild competing means development but you know you are getting a chance at a lotto pick.

Suttle point on draftist vs tanker is you don’t scuttle development for losses. Just draft well and throughout as often as possible. The more quality picks producing prospects the better chance their development balances out team.

But like I said before to cover the core flaw of tanking (flushing a season by design) they will adopt or add draftist cores to save face now in the modern lotto. So exposing that won’t make a difference.

- Nuck4U

well articulated
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 7 @ 11:25 PM ET
You guys will draft tkatchuk, it's destined. the games vs calgary will be fun
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 7 @ 11:29 PM ET
You guys will draft tkatchuk, it's destined. the games vs calgary will be fun
- Conquest


Does Brady play D?
We need everything anyway. BPA
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 7 @ 11:42 PM ET
You guys will draft tkatchuk, it's destined. the games vs calgary will be fun
- Conquest


We will also be getting Boris in a trade with Tampa.
We will have Tkachuk & Kachouk. We will be good.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 7 @ 11:46 PM ET
He averaged 5:09 of ice time in the SHL.

He should just head over to the London knights.
They own his rights

- classic321

Boqvist is 5'11" and 180. where did this 5'9" 160 or w/e come from?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 8 @ 12:08 AM ET
VGK now 18-2-1 at home
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 8 @ 12:10 AM ET
BPA needs for us r either top 2 D or top 3 F so according to my wish list who next fits that bill if any?

✅Dahlin top 2 D

Boqvist top 4 D?
Tkachuk top 6 F or higher?
Zadina top 6 F or higher?
Svechnikov top 3 F? or enigma
Any stealth picks?
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 12:30 AM ET
Now... now... don’t be misleading about draftists. They don’t want to trade away picks to compete. For a rebuild competing means development but you know you are getting a chance at a lotto pick.

Suttle point on draftist vs tanker is you don’t scuttle development for losses. Just draft well and throughout as often as possible. The more quality picks producing prospects the better chance their development balances out team.

But like I said before to cover the core flaw of tanking (flushing a season by design) they will adopt or add draftist cores to save face now in the modern lotto. So exposing that won’t make a difference.

- Nuck4U

There's no difference between draftist and tanker, they encompass each other, despite how you may spin it in your twisted head, they produce the same results. Building through the draft.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 8 @ 12:38 AM ET
There's no difference between draftist and tanker, they encompass each other, despite how you may spin it in your twisted head, they produce the same results. Building through the draft.
- LeftCoaster



Draftists don’t trade picks.
Tankers think losing is healthy.

Results are draft the way up the ladder or think losing pathetically is a winning strategy. Ask Arizona & Buffalo how its going.

Untwisted for everyone’s enjoyment & personal consumption. Cheers 🍺
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 8 @ 12:47 AM ET
You guys will draft tkatchuk, it's destined. the games vs calgary will be fun
- Conquest

Would love to see the Oilers draft Tkachuk too, add more to the battle of alberta.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 12:48 AM ET
Draftists don’t trade picks.
Tankers think losing is healthy.

Results are draft the way up the ladder or think losing pathetically is a winning strategy. Ask Arizona & Buffalo how its going.

Untwisted for everyone’s enjoyment & personal consumption. Cheers 🍺

- Nighthawk

Tanking is just a method of getting a high pick, a draftist uses this method to attain a high pick, it's not that complicated. Neither want to trade away picks to compete in the early stages of rebuilding.

I've never heard anyone say losing is healthy? Losing has benefits, but healhty? I don't know what that means?
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 8 @ 12:51 AM ET
Boqvist is 5'11" and 180. where did this 5'9" 160 or w/e come from?
- Retinalz


That’s what’s on his hockey DB - didn’t double check anywhere
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 8 @ 12:52 AM ET
Would love to see the Oilers draft Tkachuk too, add more to the battle of alberta.
- 13sundin13

Those days are long gone, there games are passive.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 12:55 AM ET
There's no difference between draftist and tanker, they encompass each other, despite how you may spin it in your twisted head, they produce the same results. Building through the draft.
- LeftCoaster

I think there is a difference.
Tankers want to be bad to get high picks for best possible players.
Draftists want as many picks as possible(not necessarily high picks) so better chane to get a good player.

Imagine is we had like 3 or 4 20-22 y/o players that were on the cusp of being ready that we could call up and send down instead of Chaput and company. Players that would be able to step in and replace a current bottom 6 and eventually a top 6 player that could then be sold for more picks after their spot gets taken.

It is wishful thinking, but that is what a Draftist wants. The ability to sell players for picks without weakening the team.

Tankers just want to sell players for picks no matter what.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 12:56 AM ET
That’s what’s on his hockey DB - didn’t double check anywhere
- canucksfan1944

Always check Eliteprospects. they update regularily. DB has been lagging in everything they do. They sometimes even only update some info but not the rest of it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:04 AM ET

- Nucker101

LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 1:07 AM ET
I think there is a difference.
Tankers want to be bad to get high picks for best possible players.
Draftists want as many picks as possible(not necessarily high picks) so better chane to get a good player.

Imagine is we had like 3 or 4 20-22 y/o players that were on the cusp of being ready that we could call up and send down instead of Chaput and company. Players that would be able to step in and replace a current bottom 6 and eventually a top 6 player that could then be sold for more picks after their spot gets taken.

It is wishful thinking, but that is what a Draftist wants. The ability to sell players for picks without weakening the team.

Tankers just want to sell players for picks no matter what.

- Retinalz

Draftist's want to build through the draft, top to bottom, tanking is simply a method of getting the best possible first round pick you can. Tanking isn't a method, it's a tool.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:12 AM ET
There's no difference between draftist and tanker, they encompass each other, despite how you may spin it in your twisted head, they produce the same results. Building through the draft.
- LeftCoaster


Lol always saw you as a draftist from what you have posted. But you seem to be looking for cover twisting into conflating notions. You can build through the draft without tanking and there lies the rub of the difference. Even though the claim of the goals are the same one methodology isn’t necessary to reach it.

Oh well hope you get to watch the game it sounded like a dandy....
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:15 AM ET
I think there is a difference.
Tankers want to be bad to get high picks for best possible players.
Draftists want as many picks as possible(not necessarily high picks) so better chane to get a good player.

Imagine is we had like 3 or 4 20-22 y/o players that were on the cusp of being ready that we could call up and send down instead of Chaput and company. Players that would be able to step in and replace a current bottom 6 and eventually a top 6 player that could then be sold for more picks after their spot gets taken.

It is wishful thinking, but that is what a Draftist wants. The ability to sell players for picks without weakening the team.

Tankers just want to sell players for picks no matter what.

- Retinalz


If youre Vancouver (and many other teams around the league), its pretty tough to accomplish this. Any player of value, desired by another, cannot be removed from the Canucks without weakening the team. Had they been smart earlier, they could have possibly avoided this with better developed prospects but its past the point of no return IMO
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:16 AM ET
Draftist's want to build through the draft, top to bottom, tanking is simply a method of getting the best possible first round pick you can. Tanking isn't a method, it's a tool.
- LeftCoaster

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 1:18 AM ET
Draftist's want to build through the draft, top to bottom, tanking is simply a method of getting the best possible first round pick you can. Tanking isn't a method, it's a tool.
- LeftCoaster


it gives you better odds of getting the top pick, but also guarantees the team a higher draft position in rounds 2-7. Drafting 34th is better than 43rd (and carries more value if you want to trade down and accumulate more picks)
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