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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 10:31 AM ET
I ignore everything the Leafs do , thanks for partaking

Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports
10 hours ago
Through First 47 Career Games:

#Canucks Brock Boeser: 26 goals, 44 points
#Leafs Auston Matthews: 23 goals, 39 points

- VANTEL

You ignore your sister?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:32 AM ET
I would love to have both those kids on the Canucks, but that's just me.
- LeftCoaster

Not just you. Fortunately, ours are coming. They had to wait a year or two for Marner and Nylander. Same deal here. Another top5 pick for us hopefully!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 10:33 AM ET
Not just you. Fortunately, ours are coming. They had to wait a year or two for Marner and Nylander. Same deal here. Another top5 pick for us hopefully!
- neem55

A little more than a year or two...
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:33 AM ET
Yes it’s always nice to have the higher pick throughout rounds to have more control of choice. But as we have seen there are tiers or groupings of talent and whatever the choice is what matters is the result. That result for each team only comes out by development and sometimes luck. So does it really make a huge difference within the tiers?

Haven’t we debunked the odds thing? As in more likely to drop then hold or climb in lotto results? The percentage weight on lotto position from 1-15 are so small that the reward isn’t worth flushing development. So why design to fail? How about a pure draftist approach on accumulating picks. Then, just concentrate on developing your team finish wherever that takes you and take your chances the lotto will reward you.

- Nuck4U


Mr Positivity was messing with you.

Yes individually every team has a greater chance of falling that moving up, but the odds, the literal odds, of winning the first pick are:

18% - 12.5% - 10.5% - 9.5% - 8.5% - 7.6% - 6.7% - etc.

I'm no mathematician but it seems like you nearly double your chances of winning the first pick if you finish 31st instead of 28th. Not to mention it guarantees you a higher spot in the rest of the draft, which means higher quality selection. Canucks losing 3 extra games this year, for 6 extra points, will not save the kids career nor derail it, but it will put them in a similar position to last year where they could pick Lind
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
ignore the 10 games less played by Matthews, not important here
- Nymarnthews



Here's Buttons assessment for you...now you and CBC and SN have something to discuss for the next two week plus figuring what gonch Matthews wears.

Bye
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
You're only two points ahead of me but I'm playing the #1 guy this week
- LeftCoaster


I was worried until I saw that the majority of your team is also taking their 5 day break this week. One good game from someone will probably make the difference
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 8 @ 10:38 AM ET
You ignore your sister?
- Atomic Wedgie

first class post ..lol
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
Mr Positivity was messing with you.

Yes individually every team has a greater chance of falling that moving up, but the odds, the literal odds, of winning the first pick are:

18% - 12.5% - 10.5% - 9.5% - 8.5% - 7.6% - 6.7% - etc.

I'm no mathematician but it seems like you nearly double your chances of winning the first pick if you finish 31st instead of 28th. Not to mention it guarantees you a higher spot in the rest of the draft, which means higher quality selection. Canucks winning 3 extra games this year, for 6 extra points, will not save the kids career nor derail it, but it will put them in a similar position to last year where they could pick Lind

- WhiteLie

after picks are awarded do the odds not change every subsequent pick?
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
I played him 2 weeks ago and won and this week I played #2 and lost 7-5
- VANTEL

I spanked Scooby's little midget nuts 10-1
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:42 AM ET
Seems like you might have to already ranked... for say a generational talent and dman. Oh did Tampa not tank twice for the two best players on their team and were just overlooking that? Oh my bad.
- neem55

Sarcasm (he's being sarcastic just like Nucker)
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
If Gagner, LE and Sutter is your conclusion and twist of interpretation then you have laid the golden egg of sarcasm. Like I have said you crack me up.

Sometimes you may confuse others when you are in shtick form or not. Some assume all the time and may buy it on their views, even though some of them have the inability to articulate. Others not sure may bite on some of it.

On a serious note, go back to see some of the add on edits to posts to help you nuance out the difference. This opposite take is really far off the mark of the points. As hard as you are trying to make yours, in misstating what you think they are, the cleverness may be funny, but that doesn’t make it accurate.

- Nuck4U


WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
after picks are awarded do the odds not change every subsequent pick?
- onesmallleap


Nope, the lottery only affects the first round. Canucks picked 5th overall and then took Lind with the 2nd pick in the 2nd round
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
I was worried until I saw that the majority of your team is also taking their 5 day break this week. One good game from someone will probably make the difference
- WhiteLie

Should be an easy week for you, only one day I have more than three players dressed
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Mr Positivity was messing with you.

Yes individually every team has a greater chance of falling that moving up, but the odds, the literal odds, of winning the first pick are:

18% - 12.5% - 10.5% - 9.5% - 8.5% - 7.6% - 6.7% - etc.

I'm no mathematician but it seems like you nearly double your chances of winning the first pick if you finish 31st instead of 28th. Not to mention it guarantees you a higher spot in the rest of the draft, which means higher quality selection. Canucks losing 3 extra games this year, for 6 extra points, will not save the kids career nor derail it, but it will put them in a similar position to last year where they could pick Lind

- WhiteLie

Careful whitelie, I’ve been down the road. Pointing out facts ain’t looked at kindly.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Should be an easy week for you, only one day I have more than three players dressed
- LeftCoaster


Im not so confident, my players play 19 games to your 18 and you've got Stamkos. Once again I put my hopes in getting the goalie points
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
Sarcasm (he's being sarcastic just like Nucker)
- LeftCoaster

You're pretty perceptive for an engineer.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 10:58 AM ET
Careful whitelie, I’ve been down the road. Pointing out facts ain’t looked at kindly.
- neem55


Now that he's aware of Nucker's act I am wondering if reviewing things might change his mind
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
You're pretty perceptive for an engineer.
- Makita

It's a gift
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
Lets ignore one started at 19 and one at 20??
22 goals, 6 pp goals and a -1 vs 19 goals and 2 pp goals, +17

34 has more even strength goals in 6 less games

did you point out that 34 brought a LAST PLACE team to the playoffs in hes first yr at age 19?

Youre GM and EVERY GM in the league would trade 34 for boeser
like, WTF ... lol

- Nymarnthews

7 months separate them, so age is not an issue. This season Boeser is so far better. They are both 20 right now.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:09 AM ET
One of you rocket scientists should officially enter "Draftist" on Dictionary.com

When I typed it in I got this

http://www.dictionary.com...pelling?term=draftist&s=t
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 8 @ 11:10 AM ET
For those Mario/Gretzky debates, saw this interesting tidbit on twitter:

Was looking up how Phil Kessel’s pace for power play production this season stacks up historically and stumbled upon this gem:

Mario Lemieux had years with 80, 79, 79, and 66 power play points. No one else has ever had more than 64.
-@DimFilipovic


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
Nice take. Well stated. Like to add that want to be bad you mention is not innocent desire or hope they lose enough to get high picks. But purposeful execution. The principle core value to tanking is planning that outcome. Doing it on purpose not by result. The design of a team to flush a season or several seasons. Why they used the word tank for flushing. Literally emptying the toilet bowl.

But within the mythos and to seek cover not only have they grabbed draftist methods as their own, but put a symbol of a military vehicle a Tank. All to cover in myth that their strategy not only noble but powerful. It’s to dispel the anti-compete part of development within draftist allowances.

Oh well symatics eh? Like saying tanking is a tool not a methodology of strategy to follow. Tankers know building through the draft in the cap world is important. But the modern lotto has thrown a huge blow to their method to get that reward of the top pick. So high pick of 4-6 is considered now worth the risk of scuttling development. A reality no owner let alone team managers will actually follow through with anymore.

Anyway, they are too invested in the mythos and made up false symbol to yield. They hide the fact you can build through the draft without tanking. What a true draftist would acknowledge.

- Nuck4U



https://www.merriam-webster.com
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
For those Mario/Gretzky debates, saw this interesting tidbit on twitter:




- WhiteLie

There is no debate...neither Lemieux or Gretzky could pack Orr's lunch on their best day. There is Orr...then there is everyone else.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jan 8 @ 11:15 AM ET
You ignore your sister?
- Atomic Wedgie



Damn! Nice one.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 8 @ 11:18 AM ET
https://www.merriam-webster.com
- Canada Cup


I saw that as well Our friend can be famous with his dictionary submission. All he would need to do is copy and paste his posts from this thread as the official description.

Dictionary.com asks "did you mean dramatist?"

Yes, that also works, a suitable description
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