Bills don't have enough hot wives...let's just go get McCarron and accept mediocrity.
- RhinoFan

But mccarron is actually good lol if he was a free agent he would make the big bucks I think

I agree, teams that need qbs tend to be the lower half teams.
I would think coach mcdermott would also be a guy players would want to play for.
These o line is good and our defense is up and coming.
Just hoping the bills don't pull a ror with cousins. Pay extra and a long term contract for someone who's not quite a #1 top guy.
Good but not great, but very paid as very good.
- Boss34

He is on the same Tier as Matt Stafford IMO

Good but not great.

You can win with good if you have a well rounded team.

Look at Seattle this year, no running game and average defense play this year and it all fell on Wilson.

Nobody can do it all by themselves, hell even the Patriots had a defense that was top 5 in yards allowed per game

The problem is he wants to be a head coach


I'm thinking Arizona would be the ideal place for them
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Well hopefully they trade for Tyrod & that takes them out of the mix

Give us a 5th?
Maybe a 4th if we are lucky

But mccarron is actually good lol if he was a free agent he would make the big bucks I think
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Then sign him. I will be seated next to Katherine.

I’m not sold at 21/22...
that’s for sure

The best QB we could have start for us next year is Cousins
(Unless Luck is traded)

I like Keenum, and he’d be cheaper...
so he’s tops on my list

But we are still playing if either were our QB this season
- jdfitz77

I agree

I also agree with Cousins or a Luck trade but I don't know with his shoulder/arm issues.

I like Keenum but I think Minnesota is going to keep him

$32.5 million a year to $26 million a year is a huge difference
- Stripes77

It doesn’t matter. Either way it’s a poop ton of money on a player you have to hit on. I don’t mind the idea, but I’m as scared about that as I am about using both 1sts to move up in the draft. it’s a tough call. First and foremost Rico has to take his zone blocking, limited ypa bull poop elsewhere. Hands down. Let’s get a titans o line with a Jax d line with the picks. Nobody is thriving behind the Bills line.

While I agree, Homie said the Cards came calling for him so that's what prompted the trade discussion
- Stripes77

Beane should take any pick for tyrod.
We did trade cardale for a 7th , so maybe we could get something.

3rd is what we gave up for calvin.
Got a fifth for darius.

Maybe a draft day trade up move

Serioulsy?

That year Cousins threw for almost 5000 yards

They had a leading rusher that had 700 yards

Their defense was bottom 5 in yards allowed, 19th in points allowed
Their offense was 3rd in yards gained, 12th in points scored

He had (7) 300 yard throwing games, 2 of which were over 400 yards, only 5 games did they score less than 20 points, 7 times they scored 27 or more points.

The offense was 5th in the league in 3rd down conversions on offense and dead last in the league in allowing the most 3rd down conversions

So please tell me how that is on Kirk Cousins
- Stripes77

That season Cousins threw for 262 yards per in wins and 315 in losses and the tie was 446. That's a pretty big difference. Like I've said before, he's The Garbage Man. He's a great fantasy play.

When his defense plays well, he's a slightly better than average QB. When they don't he goes off.

Beane should take any pick for tyrod.
We did trade cardale for a 7th , so maybe we could get something.

3rd is what we gave up for calvin.
Got a fifth for darius.

Maybe a draft day trade up move
- Boss34

I would be shocked and amazed if anyone was willing to give up anything worth a damn for Tyrod cause if he’s not the Bills guy, he’ll be on the street.

He is on the same Tier as Matt Stafford IMO

Good but not great.

You can win with good if you have a well rounded team.

Look at Seattle this year, no running game and average defense play this year and it all fell on Wilson.

Nobody can do it all by themselves, hell even the Patriots had a defense that was top 5 in yards allowed per game
- Stripes77

Not sure if cousins is quite matt Stafford level
Staff has the #1 overall petigree, not sure if that matters either.

If the Bills could answer the qb dilemma via free agency and make good sound tre white type picks with our 2 firsts and 2 2nds.

Watch out nfl
I

Minny being able to win with Bradford shows how good of a TEAM they are,
and that it’s not necessarily Keenum who made them all that good

I happen to like Keenum a lot but that argument doesn’t help him


Cousins is a good qb
We need a good qb

What “great” ones are available?
- jdfitz77

Except they weren't able to win with Bradford! How is that hard to understand?

8-8 under Bradford last year and 11-3 this year under Keenum.

That season Cousins threw for 262 yards per in wins and 315 in losses and the tie was 446. That's a pretty big difference. Like I've said before, he's The Garbage Man. He's a great fantasy play.

When his defense plays well, he's a slightly better than average QB. When they don't he goes off.
- Wetbandit1

He had no running game at all

If you want to talk about yards per win:

Tom Brady that same year 285 yards per win (he also ran up the score in his first 2 weeks back

So if you're telling me I can have a QB that throws for 260 yards in wins I would take that all day every day.

How many 262 yard passing games did Tyrod have this year? That would be 0

He had 1 game with 261

Now if you're telling me you don't want to pay Cousins that length and that amount of money I can understand that, but if you're telling me he isn't a good enough QB to win on the Bills that's something I will disagree with you on.

Not sure if cousins is quite matt Stafford level
Staff has the #1 overall petigree, not sure if that matters either.

If the Bills could answer the qb dilemma via free agency and make good sound tre white type picks with our 2 firsts and 2 2nds.

Watch out nfl
I
- Boss34

Production wise he is right on the Stafford level.

Maybe he doesn't have that pedigree but yeah I don't think that matters.

To me the draft picks this year are more important than the cap space. Teams can always figure the cap out down the road. They have to hit on the draft picks.

Do the Bills trade the 21 and 22 picks to move into the mid top ten? It was reported that the value of those picks is the #6 pick. If they did and a team agreed they would lose a first to move up. Is this draft worth it? I'm not up on the quality of talent.

Do the Bills trade the 21 and 22 picks to move into the mid top ten? It was reported that the value of those picks is the #6 pick. If they did and a team agreed they would lose a first to move up. Is this draft worth it? I'm not up on the quality of talent.
- GilPerreault11

There's talent there but all the QB's regressed a bit this year except Mayfield who has an attitude and is on the smaller side.

Some people will say move up, I am in the stay put camp

There's talent there but all the QB's regressed a bit this year except Mayfield who has an attitude and is on the smaller side.

Some people will say move up, I am in the stay put camp
- Stripes77

I would usually be go for a stud QB and mortgage for it because we have settled for ones with flaws forever and they haven't cut it but this year I haven't seen them play so no idea.

He had no running game at all

If you want to talk about yards per win:

Tom Brady that same year 285 yards per win (he also ran up the score in his first 2 weeks back

So if you're telling me I can have a QB that throws for 260 yards in wins I would take that all day every day.

How many 262 yard passing games did Tyrod have this year? That would be 0

He had 1 game with 261

Now if you're telling me you don't want to pay Cousins that length and that amount of money I can understand that, but if you're telling me he isn't a good enough QB to win on the Bills that's something I will disagree with you on.
- Stripes77

My main hangup is the money, he's going to want a ton and for 2 years you add a lot on top of that in dead cap. But it's also because I don't think he's good enough to make them legit Super Bowl contenders. And you're basically throwing away 5 or 6 years if you sign him. The Redskins (frank)ed up and artificially inflated his salary by tagging him 47 years in a row. Kinda like how the Avs (frank)ed up and let ROR artificially inflate his salary by not negotiating with him.

I know, the numbers are sexy, especially after Tyrod. But all those yards and he's never thrown for 30 TDs. It's pretty much a pre-requisite to be a franchise QB you need at least 30 TDs. He's not a bad QB, at all, he's a good QB, but we need a great one in order to compete at the highest level. And he's not a great QB. The only way you get one is through the draft, or someone like Brees who underachieved for a long time so that the team drafts a new guy and he goes to FA which has happened once in the past forever.

were you aware there is a 2018 draft prospect available ...

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Do it you nerds

My main hangup is the money, he's going to want a ton and for 2 years you add a lot on top of that in dead cap. But it's also because I don't think he's good enough to make them legit Super Bowl contenders. And you're basically throwing away 5 or 6 years if you sign him. The Redskins (frank)ed up and artificially inflated his salary by tagging him 47 years in a row. Kinda like how the Avs (frank)ed up and let ROR artificially inflate his salary by not negotiating with him.

I know, the numbers are sexy, especially after Tyrod. But all those yards and he's never thrown for 30 TDs. It's pretty much a pre-requisite to be a franchise QB you need at least 30 TDs. He's not a bad QB, at all, he's a good QB, but we need a great one in order to compete at the highest level. And he's not a great QB. The only way you get one is through the draft, or someone like Brees who underachieved for a long time so that the team drafts a new guy and he goes to FA which has happened once in the past forever.
- Wetbandit1

Not to nit pick too much because there's not much I don't disagree with/don't understand but this year only 3 teams had 30 or more passing TDs

Philly Seattle and New England

My main hangup is the money, he's going to want a ton and for 2 years you add a lot on top of that in dead cap. But it's also because I don't think he's good enough to make them legit Super Bowl contenders. And you're basically throwing away 5 or 6 years if you sign him. The Redskins (frank)ed up and artificially inflated his salary by tagging him 47 years in a row. Kinda like how the Avs (frank)ed up and let ROR artificially inflate his salary by not negotiating with him.

I know, the numbers are sexy, especially after Tyrod. But all those yards and he's never thrown for 30 TDs. It's pretty much a pre-requisite to be a franchise QB you need at least 30 TDs. He's not a bad QB, at all, he's a good QB, but we need a great one in order to compete at the highest level. And he's not a great QB. The only way you get one is through the draft, or someone like Brees who underachieved for a long time so that the team drafts a new guy and he goes to FA which has happened once in the past forever.
- Wetbandit1

I almost feel like this is an Evander Kane post

There's talent there but all the QB's regressed a bit this year except Mayfield who has an attitude and is on the smaller side.

Some people will say move up, I am in the stay put camp
- Stripes77

You have to take a risk we have to stop being scared

were you aware there is a 2018 draft prospect available ...

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Do it you nerds
- DDM-Coga

We’re taking Max Ellis

You have to take a risk we have to stop being scared
- GERBE!!!75PTS

This isn't the year to take the risk for the Bills

I am not opposed to take a risk

However build a good team all around through the draft then take the risk on moving up to get a QB if you can't get one.

Bringing in a rookie with a team that has major holes isn't a good idea either.

Do the Bills trade the 21 and 22 picks to move into the mid top ten?
- GilPerreault11

doubt it

We’re taking Max Ellis
- GERBE!!!75PTS

have you starting buying California "Raw water" yet