boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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You gotta give to get in trades, no GM is perfect. He’s made some mistakes but they’re irrelevant in the big picture. Since he’s taken over the big picture looks a lot more promising. - Nucker101
Getting a teasing peak at a future line of young talent in Boeser Bo and Bart and then having the season crash that would most likely been a middle of the pack finish is a disguised blessing. More high 1st and 2nds added to a respectable prospect pool with a couple of elites in the mix already.
Still nice to know Benning can find elite talent even without a tank. We got Boeser out of a league top 10 finish. Makes me horny for a later 1st rounder added this season.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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You gotta give to get in trades, no GM is perfect. He’s made some mistakes but they’re irrelevant in the big picture. Since he’s taken over the big picture looks a lot more promising. - Nucker101
Geez that is painfully obvious if some ppl remove their blinders. 😂👍
Cue the next retort of course... |
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pker2theend
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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I’m willing to admit I was wrong. He’s brought in Boeser/EP/Gaudette/Virtanen/Demko/Dahlen/Juolevi
Got rid of Lack, Garrison, Kesler, Bieksa, Hansen, Burrows and won all those trades. - Nucker101
Kesler is debatable. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Getting a teasing peak at a future line of young talent in Boeser Bo and Bart and then having the season crash that would most likely been a middle of the pack finish is a disguised blessing. More high 1st and 2nds added to a respectable prospect pool with a couple of elites in the mix already.
Still nice to know Benning can find elite talent even without a tank. We got Boeser out of a league top 10 finish. Makes me horny for a later 1st rounder added this season.
- boonerbuck
Thats a fair assessment without bias.
I too am feelin like a horny toad awaiting more picks coming our way.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Kesler is debatable. - pker2theend
What is to debate?
Hands were tied & over a barrel at the time.
Was not an open market to get the most. |
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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a Joined: 11.29.2011
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What is to debate?
Hands were tied & over a barrel at the time. - Nighthawk
Drouin and Duchene |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Drouin and Duchene - pker2theend
Neither were on Anaheim.
Did they have a 1 team trade list? |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I’m willing to admit I was wrong. He’s brought in Boeser/EP/Gaudette/Virtanen/Demko/Dahlen/Juolevi
Got rid of Lack, Garrison, Kesler, Bieksa, Hansen, Burrows and won all those trades. - Nucker101
I can never tell when your serious or joking anymore.
I know you would have taken Ehlers over JV 10x/10 even if JV becomes the 20g guy we all hope he can be. But the rest of those picks were actually solid.
The Kesler trade is the only one I think your joking about there as not matter what we were going to lose that trade, but he made the best of it at the time it seemed(FA still wanted to compete so he focused on getting some pieces that wouldn't weaken us too much). Garrison we lost because we flipped it for Vey...
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I agree we were gonna lose on Kesler.
Now wtf happened with Drouin & Duchene is a whole other screw up. MB & Dorion make JB look a genius & then some.
My pick was Ehlers but i said at the time JV was ok after the fact.
I had Sergachev over Tkachuk.
Had Mittelstadt over EP. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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When its all said i like who we picked & as long as it continues i am more than happy. |
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DariusKnight
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Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!" Joined: 03.09.2006
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I agree we were gonna lose on Kesler.
Now wtf happened with Drouin & Duchene is a whole other screw up. MB & Dorion make JB look a genius & then some.
My pick was Ehlers but i said at the time JV was ok after the fact. - Nighthawk
I wanted JV too, mostly because I thought Ehlers was too soft and at the time, we had enough soft players on the roster. I still think Ehlers wouldn't have been as successful here as he is in Winnipeg simply due to the roster not having a playmaker (beyond Hank who was declining rapidly at that point).
Also, I thought if we passed over JV, it'd be another example of the Canucks not wanting to draft homegrown talent. I admit to still being influenced by the picking of Gaunce over Sissons the year before. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I can never tell when your serious or joking anymore.
I know you would have taken Ehlers over JV 10x/10 even if JV becomes the 20g guy we all hope he can be. But the rest of those picks were actually solid.
The Kesler trade is the only one I think your joking about there as not matter what we were going to lose that trade, but he made the best of it at the time it seemed(FA still wanted to compete so he focused on getting some pieces that wouldn't weaken us too much). Garrison we lost because we flipped it for Vey... - Retinalz
JV is taking huge strides after struggling under WD, he’s following in Kreider’s footsteps. He’ll never score as much as Ehlers but a 20 goal forechecking beast is a solid pick.
Kesler trade turned into Gudbranson + Sutter..hardly a ripoff |
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Thats a fair assessment without bias.
I too am feelin like a horny toad awaiting more picks coming our way. - Nighthawk
I'm definitely not feeling like a horny toad, but likewise agree with the assessment and want to see more picks!
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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JV is taking huge strides after struggling under WD, he’s following in Kreider’s footsteps. He’ll never score as much as Ehlers but a 20 goal forechecking beast is a solid pick.
Kesler trade turned into Gudbranson + Sutter..hardly a ripoff - Nucker101
Now i just wonder what we will get for GUddy. If Sutter could stay healthy that would be nice as well. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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JV is taking huge strides after struggling under WD, he’s following in Kreider’s footsteps. He’ll never score as much as Ehlers but a 20 goal forechecking beast is a solid pick.
Kesler trade turned into Gudbranson + Sutter..hardly a ripoff - Nucker101
I do think JV would be a good LW for EP. Would make more room for BB and EP and has been a good netfront presence on a scoring line.
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Now i just wonder what we will get for GUddy. If Sutter could stay healthy that would be nice as well. - Retinalz
Guddy and Sutter for Kesler |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I wanted JV too, mostly because I thought Ehlers was too soft and at the time, we had enough soft players on the roster. I still think Ehlers wouldn't have been as successful here as he is in Winnipeg simply due to the roster not having a playmaker (beyond Hank who was declining rapidly at that point).
Also, I thought if we passed over JV, it'd be another example of the Canucks not wanting to draft homegrown talent. I admit to still being influenced by the picking of Gaunce over Sissons the year before. - DariusKnight
Thats how i saw it back then as well.
Good post 👍 |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I do think JV would be a good LW for EP. Would make more room for BB and EP and has been a good netfront presence on a scoring line. - Retinalz
If JV ever gets some speedy talent to play with he will show his skill set better. As we currently stand our roster stifles his true abilities. No rush & all in good time. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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What is to debate?
Hands were tied & over a barrel at the time.
Was not an open market to get the most. - Nighthawk
JB had one team to trade with. I'd like to think if there were a reasonable list of teams that Kesler would accept, the return would have been better... probably. Bounces
McCann being linked to that trade sours it also. For JB not to be embarrassed by the Gudbranson deal, we need a return in a trade that has more impact than McCann would have. If he stays a depth player... well, maybe JB pulls a better prospect out of the draft or someone's prospect pool. Cole Lind was found in the 2nd. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a better player so my point is Guddy still could end up being a improvement on Mcann down the road... the time line will be stretched the hell out... but will still add to the future. He could land a late 1st with a verbal agreement for a contract.
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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I do think JV would be a good LW for EP. Would make more room for BB and EP and has been a good netfront presence on a scoring line. - Retinalz
No doubt. He’s gonna be a beast when he gets that chance. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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JB had one team to trade with. I'd like to think if there were a reasonable list of teams that Kesler would accept, the return would have been better... probably. Bounces
McCann being linked to that trade sours it also. For JB not to be embarrassed by the Gudbranson deal, we need a return in a trade that has more impact than McCann would have. If he stays a depth player... well, maybe JB pulls a better prospect out of the draft or someone's prospect pool. Cole Lind was found in the 2nd. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns into a better player so my point is Guddy still could end up being a improvement on Mcann down the road... the time line will be stretched the hell out... but will still add to the future. He could land a late 1st with a verbal agreement for a contract. - boonerbuck
McCann is about as useful as Shinkaruk.
Lind is likely going to be a 20+ goal 2nd liner.
Gudbranson should fetch a 1st alone or 2nd + Dahlen type prospect |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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McCann is about as useful as Shinkaruk.
Lind is likely going to be a 20+ goal 2nd liner.
Gudbranson should fetch a 1st alone or 2nd + Dahlen type prospect - Nucker101
Those are fair statements. 👍 |
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McCann is about as useful as Shinkaruk.
Lind is likely going to be a 20+ goal 2nd liner.
Gudbranson should fetch a 1st alone or 2nd + Dahlen type prospect - Nucker101
That is too much, as a draftist, I would prefer a 2nd and 3rd. More chances at getting good prospects.😁 |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Those are fair statements. 👍 - Nighthawk
always a good laugh seeing the same people who despised linden vey act like mccann is some sort of a legit player |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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That is too much, as a draftist, I would prefer a 2nd and 3rd. More chances at getting good prospects.😁 - Reubenkincade
thats works too, Jim is money with mid round picks |
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