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VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 9 @ 2:57 PM ET
Horvat was the back breaker, they held up just fine with the others out. They need another top 6 C to hold down the fort. EP and Gaudette are on the way. Maybe even Tavares.

The uprising is coming faster than the blind haters are willing to admit/realize.

- Nucker101


I find the hyperbole amusing. I would suggest refraining from the Pom Pom glee to mock and denegrade Canuck fans though.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 2:57 PM ET
30 NHL GM's passed on him.
NHL GM's.
30 of them said no.

- Marwood


Trade all our players for draft picks.
Any potential future is better than what we have now.
every pick is a lottery card and we all know that smart people play lotto.
what's the worst that could happen?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
Nucker101.
- Marwood

Fixed
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 9 @ 2:59 PM ET


1) 4 games above .500 with Horvat healthy

2) That was despite injuries to Edler/Tanev/Gudbranson/Sutter/Dorsett so it's not like the team was fully healthy and was benefiting from just being lucky.

3) Goaltending has let them down, but even mediocre NHL goalies should put up a .910sv% so things will get better

4) Yes, lack of depth is still an issue, but this will no longer be an issue next year with Juolevi, Gaudette, Pettersson, Dahlen and potentially our 2018 1st round pick all joining the NHL/AHL next season. Potentially Demko joins Marky in a 1A/1B type of role.

- Nucker101


Goaltending should be the same tandem of backups next year, unless Demko just dominates the AHL in a way that can't be ignored and then comes into camp and outshines them. There are a lot of goalies that fall under or around .910. I'd be shocked if the season average of these two was above that. If we traded one our backups, I'd rather see Bachman come up and let Demko continue to take the reigns in Utica.

Depth will be an issue again next year. Out of all those players I really only expect juolevi and Gaudette to have a chance unless EP gains a bunch of weight over the summer. Utica will be much better, Canucks will be a bubble team. I'd hazard a guess this might be our last top5 pick for a while though, I expect at least one decent UFA signing up front to replace Vanek (Kane I think will get a genrous offer). Growth of guys like JV and Goldy. As many have pointed out, d chipping in on scoring is a big issue so who we can land to play defence is a big issue for us.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
I honestly don't understand the Holland love.
- Marwood



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
I find the hyperbole amusing. I would suggest refraining from the Pom Pom glee to mock and denegrade Canuck fans though.
- VanHockeyGuy


I'd like to see you or anyone else actually engage in a civil discussion. What about my statements in incorrect? Maybe just maybe, this franchise isn't as bad as some people think it is.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'd like to see you or anyone else actually engage in a civil discussion. What about my statements in incorrect? Maybe just maybe, this franchise isn't as bad as some people think it is.
- Nucker101

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Goaltending should be the same tandem of backups next year, unless Demko just dominates the AHL in a way that can't be ignored and then comes into camp and outshines them. There are a lot of goalies that fall under or around .910. I'd be shocked if the season average of these two was above that. If we traded one our backups, I'd rather see Bachman come up and let Demko continue to take the reigns in Utica.

Depth will be an issue again next year. Out of all those players I really only expect juolevi and Gaudette to have a chance unless EP gains a bunch of weight over the summer. Utica will be much better, Canucks will be a bubble team. I'd hazard a guess this might be our last top5 pick for a while though, I expect at least one decent UFA signing up front to replace Vanek (Kane I think will get a genrous offer). Growth of guys like JV and Goldy. As many have pointed out, d chipping in on scoring is a big issue so who we can land to play defence is a big issue for us.

- neem55


1) That's the thing though. Both goalies are currently below the .910 sv% bar, and both have been better than that throughout their recent careers. They're better than what they've showed so far and will finish the season a bit better.

2) Adding OJ and Gaudette is great for depth, younger players are more NHL-ready nowadays, especially ones that have had a couple of years to develop after being drafted. They should be solid players. EP is already playing against grown men and dominating. If midgets like Gaudreau can play then so can he. Start him on the wing with Bo.

3) And as you said, with a nice chunk of money available this summer, the Canucks can sign an impact UFA as well
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
and a 2nd works for me.
- VanHockeyGuy


I thought it was going to be Marner and 1st?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
GAUNCE OUT!!!!!
- Brooks_Light

Maybe he'll score in the pressbox with the waitress.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'd like to see you or anyone else actually engage in a civil discussion. What about my statements in incorrect? Maybe just maybe, this franchise isn't as bad as some people think it is.
- Nucker101


It probably isn't. The empty seats and apathy aren't going away as quick as people may hope, despite the prospect pool. These are measurable results, money results, the ones the Aquilini's care about.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
I thought it was going to be Marner and 1st?
- Matthews_Auston

Just Marner for Guddy is fine.

We'll take your first for Tanev.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
I thought it was going to be Marner and 1st?
- Matthews_Auston

The price has gone up according to Eklund.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
I'd like to see you or anyone else actually engage in a civil discussion. What about my statements in incorrect? Maybe just maybe, this franchise isn't as bad as some people think it is.
- Nucker101


It gets hard to tell the difference between sarcasm, sarcastic-sarcasm, and opinion in here.

Just reading through in the background, it feels like this whole place has been gaslighted in some sarcastic Inception style world.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
The price has gone up according to Eklund.
- pker2theend


Well if Ek reported it we know it's true.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
I thought it was going to be Marner and 1st?
- Matthews_Auston


No one wants Marner. I'd rather just take a shot at one of your prospects or get another pick
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jan 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
It gets hard to tell the difference between sarcasm, sarcastic-sarcasm, and opinion in here.

Just reading through in the background, it feels like this whole place has been gaslighted in some sarcastic Inception style world.

- NewYorkNuck


What is the Matrix?
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
No one wants Marner. I'd rather just take a shot at one of your prospects or get another pick
- Nucker101

Too old. We will take that Mathews guy.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
It gets hard to tell the difference between sarcasm, sarcastic-sarcasm, and opinion in here.

Just reading through in the background, it feels like this whole place has been gaslighted in some sarcastic Inception style world.

- NewYorkNuck

Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jan 9 @ 3:26 PM ET
Too old. We will take that Mathews guy.
- pker2theend


Naw he sux.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
Too old. We will take that Mathews guy.
- pker2theend


Marner is really talented, but the guy can't score unless he's playing with Matthews. Wingers who struggle to score and are small will always have limited value in this league. He's more of a luxury piece than a core guy.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
30 NHL GM's passed on him.
NHL GM's.
30 of them said no.

- Marwood

Technically speaking you should include Stan Bowman here, so 31 GMs don't want Franson.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
Marner is really talented, but the guy can't score unless he's playing with Matthews. Wingers who struggle to score and are small will always have limited value in this league. He's more of a luxury piece than a core guy.
- Nucker101

Exactly. We can't afford to trade our top young D man, Gudbranson, for him.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
Exactly. We can't afford to trade our top young D man, Gudbranson, for him.
- pker2theend


Gudbranson isn't a top pairing guy, but a solid shutdown 2nd pairing guy like Hamonic/Larsson has solid value. But him being a pending UFA does hurt his value. I'd just rather have picks/prospects than try and trade him for Marner, who looks like a sexy name right now, but may not be as great as people think he is.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jan 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
Gudbranson isn't a top pairing guy, but a solid shutdown 2nd pairing guy like Hamonic/Larsson has solid value. But him being a pending UFA does hurt his value. I'd just rather have picks/prospects than try and trade him for Marner, who looks like a sexy name right now, but may not be as great as people think he is.
- Nucker101

Eastern conference is weaker. He has top pair potential there.
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