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VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:10 PM ET
Don't lump Horvat in with chumps like Eriksson you imbecile
- CanuckDon


Classic
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
True, but they were successful and they were the best team two years running.

P. Sharp was with Chicago for all three Cups and he played a big part as their second line center in the playoffs the first two.

- LeftCoaster

First cup he was 3rd in FOs taken. In 13 he was 6th.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
I was going to quickly dismiss this, but I don't hate getting another 1st. Problem is, if they win were only moving up around 3 to 5 spots. 6 more years of dclining Sebrook is just not worth it IMO
- neem55


Make it a conditional 2nd, anything lower then 22ov and it becomes a third.... or make it a third.

Seabrook at around 5 million per won't be the worst... not great but...

I didn't catch your edit, the conditional 2nd or third is for the salary retention.

Otherwise no deal
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:16 PM ET
I was going to quickly dismiss this, but I don't hate getting another 1st. Problem is, if they win were only moving up around 3 to 5 spots. 6 more years of dclining Sebrook is just not worth it IMO. If it was for seabrook and a 1st straight up, I could stomach that a lot more. That is a cap dump, we should be gaining a lot for taking that long of a cap on.
- neem55

That contract might be the worst in the NHL.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:17 PM ET
That contract might be the worst in the NHL.
- manvanfan


Luongo says hi, so does Eriksson
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:21 PM ET
That contract might be the worst in the NHL.
- manvanfan

I personally don't think he's regressed that much yet I think he could play minutes in Van, but six years is a hell of a long time at 6.5. I think It's a good idea for a rebuilding team to take on contracts like this, I just think we need to get paid well for it. I'd want a pick this year and next year. 1st and 3rd. I wouldn't be giving picks back.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:23 PM ET
Man, 25% of the Canadian Olympic Team are former Canucks

Mason Raymond, Derek Roy, Maxim Lapierre, Andrew Ebbett, Linden Vey and Marc-Andre Gragnani.

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:24 PM ET
Gudbranson and a second for Seabrook (1.5 retained) and a first
- Pres.cup


Fawk Seabrook and fawk the hawks - we should never under any circumstance help them out. Anyone else that suggests this will be flagged, I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Gudbranson and a second for Seabrook (1.5 retained) and a first
- Pres.cup


How about LE, Guddy for Seabrook, 1st

we get a pick, they get younger cheaper D for cap, Seabrook be alirght for us I bet, BC boy. And LE off the books too....
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
That contract might be the worst in the NHL.
- manvanfan


It is!! - the fact that they have 5 more years for Itchy and Scratchy at 21 mil and Keith for another 5 years at 5.5mil isnt great either. We can sit back and watch the Hawks decline and rot with their horrific contracts.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 11 @ 12:26 PM ET
How about LE, Guddy for Seabrook, 1st

we get a pick, they get younger cheaper D for cap, Seabrook be alirght for us I bet, BC boy. And LE off the books too....

- canucksfan1944


Or just LE for seabrook + pick? (cuz his contract is worst than LE) both need a fresh start.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
I personally don't think he's regressed that much yet I think he could play minutes in Van, but six years is a hell of a long time at 6.5. I think It's a good idea for a rebuilding team to take on contracts like this, I just think we need to get paid well for it. I'd want a pick this year and next year. 1st and 3rd. I wouldn't be giving picks back.
- neem55

Teams that take those contracts, the player is a long term IR guy. 6 more years after this year.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 11 @ 12:30 PM ET
Or just LE for seabrook + pick? (cuz his contract is worst than LE) both need a fresh start.
- canucksfan1944


Just stop, please
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
If anyone doubts Adam Boqvist being a top 5 pick.

Erik karlsson has 37 pts in 38 games in SuperElit. 1 pt in 7 SHL in his draft year.

Boqvist has 18 pts in 17 game in SuperElit. 1 points in 8 games in SHL.

Boqvist is also a August 15th birthday. So one of the youngest players in the draft.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
If anyone doubts Adam Boqvist being a top 5 pick.

Erik karlsson has 37 pts in 38 games in SuperElit. 1 pt in 7 SHL in his draft year.

Boqvist has 18 pts in 17 game in SuperElit. 1 points in 8 games in SHL.

Boqvist is also a August 15th birthday. So one of the youngest players in the draft.

- manvanfan

Nobody doubts him but he is on the small side. Plenty of players I would take over him. He should go in the top 10 though.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Nobody doubts him but he is on the small side. Plenty of players I would take over him. He should go in the top 10 though.
- CanuckDon

He is basically the same size as Karlsson. There is only 4 players i would take over him.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
I think Gagner and MDZ are doing well too. Gagner is on pace for 36 points at 3.15 aav. Thats below the 100k per point. Hes not a top 6 anymore but forced into it right now.

MDZ on pace for 26 points. Not bad for a 3 million aav D. Brings physicality to a team that needs some.

These players would be better if not forced into roles above them.

They werent going to save the team. They were going to help out.

Burmy and Nilsson have not done well.

- manvanfan


I've like MDZ from the start and Gagner seens to be coming around.

Burmy and Nilsson at total busts.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
Man, 25% of the Canadian Olympic Team are former Canucks

Mason Raymond, Derek Roy, Maxim Lapierre, Andrew Ebbett, Linden Vey and Marc-Andre Gragnani.


- VanHockeyGuy


That whole roster is pretty gross

Russia will win gold and ovie will forever be a non winner
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 1:10 PM ET
Good morning jerks

Hopefully today is better in here than last night was
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:12 PM ET
Good morning jerks

Hopefully today is better in here than last night was

- Codes1087

Just do what you were doing and only come sporadically and you'll be okay.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:14 PM ET
I've like MDZ from the start and Gagner seens to be coming around.

Burmy and Nilsson at total busts.

- LordHumungous

Cant win them all.

Chicago just traded away a guy they gave a 2 year 2.8 aav contract for a couple of busts.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:15 PM ET
Good morning jerks

Hopefully today is better in here than last night was

- Codes1087


At around 10:06 it got a lot better 😉
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:16 PM ET
What a flipping moron? People having a constructive conversation and you chime in with a bunch of childish insults. Ignore this Nick Richard and all will be fine.
- joegreif17



Yes he never changes, same bull****
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Man, 25% of the Canadian Olympic Team are former Canucks

Mason Raymond, Derek Roy, Maxim Lapierre, Andrew Ebbett, Linden Vey and Marc-Andre Gragnani.


- VanHockeyGuy

Raymond, Vey and Lapierre are the only ones really. The rest are what 20-30 games tops?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
I've like MDZ from the start and Gagner seens to be coming around.

Burmy and Nilsson at total busts.

- LordHumungous


From the moment I saw they got all 4 I felt the first two would be fine and the bottom two would be garbage
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