Almost 75% of all the current starting goalies began as backups and averaged 2.2 years in the AHL before coming up. Do you think they all just walked into ideal situations with great defence and excellent back checking forwards to shelter them? He's not a child, at some point he gotta come up and play, we cant hide him down there until everything is rainbows. If by your logic we have to keep all of our prospects in Utica until its the right time then why is Boeser playing this year, and why was Horvat thrown into the sh&t show the year before? At some point you gotta trust that our prospects are ready and they help us get better.
- Brooks_Light

Where are you getting this data?

I did a little digging of my own. The average time spent in development, regardless of league, from draft day is 4-6 years, and there are way more outliers above that range than below. Look up any of the best goalies in the show right now, you will see this. Demko is in his 4th year of development, so given this range it's likely for him to get NHL starts next year, and also very likely he splits his time between the NHL/AHL.

lol we could easily pick up the remainder of Dipetro's 17 year contract!!

#Milburyisanidiot
- LordHumungous

Lol.... then we'd have two American goalies named Dipietro, that's the only reason i oppose this.

#Milburyisanidiot

Where are you getting this data?

I did a little digging of my own. The average time spent in development, regardless of league, from draft day is 4-6 years, and there are way more outliers above that range than below. Look up any of the best goalies in the show right now, you will see this. Demko is in his 4th year of development, so given this range it's likely for him to get NHL starts next year, and also very likely he splits his time between the NHL/AHL.
- neem55

#facts

lol we could easily pick up the remainder of Dipetro's 17 year contract!!

#Milburyisanidiot
- LordHumungous

If it gets us a draftpick, I'd consider it! Canucks management needs to look at some of the capdump trades to see if they can pick up some picks/prospects. I've been saying this for a few years, Leaves did this. Arizona and Vegas even more recently. Leverage that cap space!

Where are you getting this data?

I did a little digging of my own. The average time spent in development, regardless of league, from draft day is 4-6 years, and there are way more outliers above that range than below. Look up any of the best goalies in the show right now, you will see this. Demko is in his 4th year of development, so given this range it's likely for him to get NHL starts next year, and also very likely he splits his time between the NHL/AHL.
- neem55

Seems likely, given the contacts on Vancouver.
Someone will get injured at some point, bring up Demko to backup, maybe slot him in when either goalie let's in their patented couple softies, or for a scheduled start.

f/t backup the next year when Nilsson's contract is up.
starter the year after, if he doesn't wrestle it from Marky beforehand.

Seems likely, given the contacts on Vancouver.
Someone will get injured at some point, bring up Demko to backup, maybe slot him in when either goalie let's in their patented couple softies, or for a scheduled start.

f/t backup the next year when Nilsson's contract is up.
starter the year after, if he doesn't wrestle it from Marky beforehand.
- dbot

Which, and give JB credit here, looks to be exactly the plan given Nilsson's contract. Maybe even sell Nilsson off next TDL and let Demko and whoever split second half. Dipietro is three years behind, enter new goalie tandem at the end of Marky's contract.

Which, and give JB credit here, looks to be exactly the plan given Nilsson's contract. Maybe even sell Nilsson off next TDL and let Demko and whoever split second half. Dipietro is three years behind, enter new goalie tandem at the end of Marky's contract.
- neem55

Yup.
All part of the plan.
except for how weak Marky/Nilsson have been this year.

Where are you getting this data?

I did a little digging of my own. The average time spent in development, regardless of league, from draft day is 4-6 years, and there are way more outliers above that range than below. Look up any of the best goalies in the show right now, you will see this. Demko is in his 4th year of development, so given this range it's likely for him to get NHL starts next year, and also very likely he splits his time between the NHL/AHL.
- neem55

I did the research myself - i took every teams current starting goalie (most games played) got their time spent in the AHL, as most had, almost 75% began as a backup and overall the average was 2.2 years spent in the AHL. I didnt go from draft day bcus when we started chatting about this, we were focussed on Demko and his time in the AHL.

Carol?

Carol?
- Pres.cup

A well deserved day off I'm sure.

I did the research myself - i took every teams current starting goalie (most games played) got their time spent in the AHL, as most had, almost 75% began as a backup and overall the average was 2.2 years spent in the AHL. I didnt go from draft day bcus when we started chatting about this, we were focussed on Demko and his time in the AHL.
- Brooks_Light

You didn't focus on draft day because you don't have a leg to stand on if you do. splitting time between the AHL/NHL is very likely. Development happens is several levels of developmental leagues, to dismiss them because you want to focus on one because it suites your argument defeats the purpose of what we are trying to predict. Were trying to predict if Demko should be full-time backup next year, based on the current starting goalies in the NHL right now he will be splitting time.

Carol?
- Pres.cup

Serenity

I will start off by saying this is not aimed at any one in particular just a few thoughts.

The term sh1t show has been used a few times in the last little while when talking about bringing prospects in . Most commonly referred to Demko and Gaudette.

If you keep bringing back the same players year after year you will still have the same sh1t show.

Players like Boeser Vessey Boucher Kerrfoot all seem to be doing good. Players should not be held off the team because Canucks have a lousy team , the lousy team should be changed. Both Gaudette and Demko have had 3 years pro.

I will start off by saying this is not aimed at any one in particular just a few thoughts.

The term sh1t show has been used a few times in the last little while when talking about bringing prospects in . Most commonly referred to Demko and Gaudette.

If you keep bringing back the same players year after year you will still have the same sh1t show.

Players like Boeser Vessey Boucher Kerrfoot all seem to be doing good. Players should not be held off the team because Canucks have a lousy team , the lousy team should be changed. Both Gaudette and Demko have had 3 years pro.
- VANTEL

true

I will start off by saying this is not aimed at any one in particular just a few thoughts.

The term sh1t show has been used a few times in the last little while when talking about bringing prospects in . Most commonly referred to Demko and Gaudette.

If you keep bringing back the same players year after year you will still have the same sh1t show.

Players like Boeser Vessey Boucher Kerrfoot all seem to be doing good. Players should not be held off the team because Canucks have a lousy team , the lousy team should be changed. Both Gaudette and Demko have had 3 years pro.
- VANTEL

Where does Guadette play? University?
Is that considered pro?
honest question.
I know nothing of the guy tbh.

Where does Guadette play? University?
Is that considered pro?
honest question.
I know nothing of the guy tbh.
- dbot

The US have a very good program . I would rate it just below college football and basketball. I would rate it below AHL but above Finish Elite and SEL

He plays Northeastern which is an average team

I also heard on the radio today that Holm may get a shot with the Canucks once Gudbrandson is gone which makes sense.

The US have a very good program . I would rate it just below college football and basketball. I would rate it below AHL but above Finish Elite and SEL

He plays Northeastern which is an average team
- VANTEL

Interesting.

Side question.
Are university players eligible for the olympics?

Interesting.

Side question.
Are university players eligible for the olympics?
- dbot

Yes they are eligible

You didn't focus on draft day because you don't have a leg to stand on if you do. splitting time between the AHL/NHL is very likely. Development happens is several levels of developmental leagues, to dismiss them because you want to focus on one because it suites your argument defeats the purpose of what we are trying to predict. Were trying to predict if Demko should be full-time backup next year, based on the current starting goalies in the NHL right now he will be splitting time.
- neem55

You're the one that pulled out the draft day stat suddenly/recently - I wasnt trying to stand on those legs in the first place!!

I agree development happens at all different levels, I didnt dismiss anything, the basis of the argument when we started talking about it, was Demko's time in the AHL. If we follow your "draft day" metric, compared it with the top goalies currently in the league that you mentioned - they still average about 2-2.5 years in the AHL before successfully making the jump to the NHL in a backup role - so Demko's development is right on par with your argument and mine.
LET THE KID PLAY!!

I will start off by saying this is not aimed at any one in particular just a few thoughts.

The term sh1t show has been used a few times in the last little while when talking about bringing prospects in . Most commonly referred to Demko and Gaudette.

If you keep bringing back the same players year after year you will still have the same sh1t show.

Players like Boeser Vessey Boucher Kerrfoot all seem to be doing good. Players should not be held off the team because Canucks have a lousy team , the lousy team should be changed. Both Gaudette and Demko have had 3 years pro.
- VANTEL

agree with all this - off to hockey - have fun boys

My thoughts on our D.

I thought Tanev should have stayed but with his history of injuries I think you should now trade him for a first and a prospect.

Gudbrandson seems to be a foregone conclusion that he will be traded for a second. That is fine.

Hutton has had three fights for the Canucks and has done very well in all three scraps. That was a nice hit from Hutton also. Need to see more of that and less of the goofball . Maybe that was a wake up call.

Stecher gives you a good effort and is learning. Sorry Makita

Biega . I like him I hope they bring him back.

OJ. I think he will be a Canuck next year for many reasons. (Sergachev)

Edler: Most nights I want to strangle him but I realize his value and look forward to seeing him gone in two years.

Pouliot average .

Holm looking forward to seeing him try again soon.

Serenity
- Nucker101

Wood pile