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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:04 PM ET
all of em?

Tanev to TBL for Foote and a 3rd?
Gudbranson to TML for Connor Brown.
Vanek and Nillson to Nsh for 2nd and 4th.


- dbot


Yes all of them Tanev for Foote/Hajek/2nd
EG to NYI for Bellows/2nd
Vanek for a 2nd or high 3rd
Nillson for another day

Go big or wait it out for the best offer
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:04 PM ET
It doesn't matter what Benning Does, he will have done the wrong thing. He will either get blasted for waiting too long or not long enough.
I stated at start of season that I would be pretty happy if he got an asset or 2 by trade deadline, many agreed back then.

- Reubenkincade

I like what he did last deadline.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:07 PM ET
Yes all of them Tanev for Foote/Hajek/2nd
EG to NYI for Bellows/2nd
Vanek for a 2nd or high 3rd
Nillson for another day

Go big or wait it out for the best offer

- Nighthawk

Tanev's health is slaughtering his price. A team may pay for a guy who doesn't play. I wouldn't doubt if a team pays up with a conditional pick in there.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:12 PM ET
Tanev's health is slaughtering his price. A team may pay for a guy who doesn't play. I wouldn't doubt if a team pays up with a conditional pick in there.
- manvanfan

Injuries are always fluke ones though, it's not like they are reoccurring, nor does he have any known health issues that would be a concern. He would also be targeted less on a team like TBL as Hedman would be the main target, and eventually Sergachev. He would likely stay healthier in TB. He has also been known to play through injury when his team is in playoff hunt or in playoffs,
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:14 PM ET
Injuries are always fluke ones though, it's not like they are reoccurring, nor does he have any known health issues that would be a concern. He would also be targeted less on a team like TBL as Hedman would be the main target, and eventually Sergachev. He would likely stay healthier in TB. He has also been known to play through injury when his team is in playoff hunt or in playoffs,
- Retinalz

I literally just saw the Hedman injury. Not very good. They will pay to replace him for sure.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 11 @ 11:16 PM ET
I like what he did last deadline.
- manvanfan


Nothing bad at all. He turned that 4th into Gunnarson and Palmu as well. Gunnarson could be the Tanev replacement down the road. Hoping too see him in Utica next season as well.
Palmy may be a bit more of a project, but has some nice potential.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:21 PM ET
Injuries are always fluke ones though, it's not like they are reoccurring, nor does he have any known health issues that would be a concern. He would also be targeted less on a team like TBL as Hedman would be the main target, and eventually Sergachev. He would likely stay healthier in TB. He has also been known to play through injury when his team is in playoff hunt or in playoffs,
- Retinalz

Do we know what Tanev's list of 8 teams he will not go to are?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 11 @ 11:31 PM ET
Young backup NHL goaltenders tend to spend a lot of time in practice with the goalie coach working on technique. They don't get as much of that development time once they're starters playing almost every game.

Practices also provide an opportunity to face NHL shooters regularly which helps with their timing during the transition.

They don't just rot on the bench.

You bring Demko up once he's shown he has nothing more to learn at the AHL level. The other goalies' contracts, how the team's playing, who's injured on defense, etc. will be very minor considerations.

Coming up on a temporary basis as an injury replacement is a whole other story.

- YeOldTimer


It’s been a while Old Timer, good explanation on processes.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:33 PM ET
Nothing bad at all. He turned that 4th into Gunnarson and Palmu as well. Gunnarson could be the Tanev replacement down the road. Hoping too see him in Utica next season as well.
Palmy may be a bit more of a project, but has some nice potential.

- Reubenkincade

He has 0 points in 38 games. Hit's like a truck but past that IDK. Still young.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:35 PM ET
Do we know what Tanev's list of 8 teams he will not go to are?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Nope, but i would bet that TB is not one of them. Who wouldn't want to be paid more on a team that will contend for years to come.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:37 PM ET
He has 0 points in 38 games. Hit's like a truck but past that IDK. Still young.
- manvanfan

I dont think he will ever produce, but could eventually be a decent #7/8 or even a #6 shut down pk guy at the best.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Jan 11 @ 11:41 PM ET
Nope, but i would bet that TB is not one of them. Who wouldn't want to be paid more on a team that will contend for years to come.
- Retinalz


I’ve watched the rockets for years. I’m
Very high on Foote. Way way better than Myers. Close to Weber IMO.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 11 @ 11:43 PM ET
He has 0 points in 38 games. Hit's like a truck but past that IDK. Still young.
- manvanfan


A little while back I read something about him being the stabilizing influence as Dahlin's defense partner in Frolunda. I don't get mesmerized by points from defensemen, although you need some production from the backend for sure.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 11 @ 11:44 PM ET
A little while back I read something about him being the stabilizing influence as Dahlin's defense partner in Frolunda. I don't get mesmerized by points from defensemen, although you need some production from the backend for sure.
- Reubenkincade



I’d say having 2 very good point producers would suffice. The other 4 play roles.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 11 @ 11:45 PM ET
A little while back I read something about him being the stabilizing influence as Dahlin's defense partner in Frolunda. I don't get mesmerized by points from defensemen, although you need some production from the backend for sure.
- Reubenkincade

From the "lineups" it usually looks as if Dahlin is 1st pair and Gunnarsson is 3rd pairing.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 11 @ 11:47 PM ET
I’d say having 2 very good point producers would suffice. The other 4 play roles.
- Nighthawk


That works for me. I think canucksfan1944 is saying we should be going after Foote from Tampa. That would be sweet.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:09 AM ET
From the "lineups" it usually looks as if Dahlin is 1st pair and Gunnarsson is 3rd pairing.
- manvanfan


Ya, that could be the case. It was awhile back when I read this, so I assume Dahlin was on 3rd pairing back then.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:18 AM ET
I stand corrected.
- dbot

Too bad they didn’t pick Gaudette for some reason
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:20 AM ET
Ya, that could be the case. It was awhile back when I read this, so I assume Dahlin was on 3rd pairing back then.
- Reubenkincade

I wasn't really happy with that pick. Same with a lot of the D, JB picks.

Mackenzie Stewart
Tate Olson
Carl Neill
Cole Candella
Matt Brassard (looks like the next Carl Neill)
Kristoffer Gunnarsson (pointless in 38 games)

Brisebois, Tryamkin, Maybe Rathbone.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:32 AM ET
I wasn't really happy with that pick. Same with a lot of the D, JB picks.

Mackenzie Stewart
Tate Olson
Carl Neill
Cole Candella
Matt Brassard (looks like the next Carl Neill)
Kristoffer Gunnarsson (pointless in 38 games)

Brisebois, Tryamkin, Maybe Rathbone.

- manvanfan


I didn't mind the pick, but I enjoy having a good defensive defenseman or 2 in the lineup. I would prefer having a couple really nice defenseman like Hedman Jones Pietrangelo Doughty etc but sometimes you need to go defensive guys and some offensive guys as these top-notch 2 way defenders are extremely hard to come by.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:33 AM ET
(frank) it, go look for yourselves.
http://www.mynhldraft.com...t/2018-nhl-draft-rankings

All the latest draft rankings.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:35 AM ET
I didn't mind the pick, but I enjoy having a good defensive defenseman or 2 in the lineup. I would prefer having a couple really nice defenseman like Hedman Jones Pietrangelo Doughty etc but sometimes you need to go defensive guys and some offensive guys as these top-notch 2 way defenders are extremely hard to come by.
- Reubenkincade

It was more just a general disappointment with the Canucks picking of D. Understandably harder to draft then forwards.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 12:40 AM ET
I'd be down with this... even without the trade bait
- Pres.cup


Trade bait would have to be part of my agreement. This is a rebuild team . Honor this contract but if a new one is signed no NTC
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:44 AM ET
(frank) it, go look for yourselves.
http://www.mynhldraft.com...t/2018-nhl-draft-rankings

All the latest draft rankings.

- manvanfan


Frank you.... feed me my opinions so i don't need to look myself.

I go
Dahlin
Bodqvist
Svech?
Tchunk
Zad?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 12:44 AM ET
Young backup NHL goaltenders tend to spend a lot of time in practice with the goalie coach working on technique. They don't get as much of that development time once they're starters playing almost every game.

Practices also provide an opportunity to face NHL shooters regularly which helps with their timing during the transition.

They don't just rot on the bench.

You bring Demko up once he's shown he has nothing more to learn at the AHL level. The other goalies' contracts, how the team's playing, who's injured on defense, etc. will be very minor considerations.

Coming up on a temporary basis as an injury replacement is a whole other story.

- YeOldTimer



I don't think Demko has anything more to learn at the AHL. I am not suggesting he will play here and be a Vezina candidate . He will be at the level Schneider was at when he came here. There will be growing pains and blown games
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