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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 5:03 PM ET
Terrible. He might come back and demand NHL caliber teammates.
- Fisticus


Bo and Vanek
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:04 PM ET
Yup.... 8.5 per is looking like a2 to 3 million dollar overpayment right now....
- Pres.cup

He's (Draisaitl) actually close to being on pace for the same point production he had last year. So if he doesn't make 77 points he needs to take a paycut??
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 10 @ 5:04 PM ET
Glad to hear that Brock is an all-star. good on him.


- dbot


Yup. BB probably would have gotten the nod over Horvat even if not injured and stayed at previous pace.

Hope a Canuck rookie gets similar appeal next season too. That spells rebuild in right direction.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
Terrible. He might come back and demand NHL caliber teammates.
- Fisticus


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:12 PM ET
He's (Draisaitl) actually close to being on pace for the same point production he had last year. So if he doesn't make 77 points he needs to take a paycut??
- LordHumungous


Pretty much. 77 points is worth 8.5 million
Then the twins at 55 points have to be worth at least 7million because of the vetern leadership that they provide
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 10 @ 5:16 PM ET
Pretty much. 77 points is worth 8.5 million
Then the twins at 55 points have to be worth at least 7million because of the vetern leadership that they provide

- Pres.cup

The McDavid deal was terrible. Now they have to over pay everyone else as that is comparable.

Thats why I like Bo at 5.5.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 5:16 PM ET
Pretty much. 77 points is worth 8.5 million
Then the twins at 55 points have to be worth at least 7million because of the vetern leadership that they provide

- Pres.cup


maybe we can sign and trade the twins to Edm for Drai?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 10 @ 5:18 PM ET
Yup. BB probably would have gotten the nod over Horvat even if not injured and stayed at previous pace.

Hope a Canuck rookie gets similar appeal next season too. That spells rebuild in right direction.

- Nuck4U

When was this rebuild announced?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:18 PM ET
maybe we can sign and trade the twins to Edm for Drai?
- dbot


Chia Pet would have to retain 50 percent and throw in a first, we'd throw in a young upcoming rhd in gudbranson
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 5:20 PM ET
The McDavid deal was terrible. Now they have to over pay everyone else as that is comparable.

Thats why I like Bo at 5.5.

- mauryballstein


Bo at 5.5 is great value.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 10 @ 5:20 PM ET
When was this rebuild announced?
- A_SteamingLombardi

It hasn't been. They are trying to stay competitive. These things usually take about 10 years.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 10 @ 5:21 PM ET
It hasn't been. They are trying to stay competitive. These things usually take about 10 years.
- Marwood

Oh, I thought I had missed something I've been waiting for since 2012.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
Oh, I thought I had missed something I've been waiting for since 2012.
- A_SteamingLombardi

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
The McDavid deal was terrible. Now they have to over pay everyone else as that is comparable.

Thats why I like Bo at 5.5.

- mauryballstein

That may have some truth to it however Bo is a 60 pt player...Draisaitl an 80 pt player and Mcdavid a 100 pt player. There has to be some form of separation or there is no point to wage structuring...may as well just pay them all the same..lol

People cried about the Crosby deal too but when you are the best player in the game (which McDavid arguably is) it is what it is.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:34 PM ET
maybe we can sign and trade the twins to Edm for Drai?
- dbot

Twins should go to Tampa so they can get their cup...and we'll take Sergachev and futures
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 10 @ 5:35 PM ET
I’d rather have Bo + 7M in cap space than McDavid

I don’t make that trade unless EDM retained a couple mil per year
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 10 @ 5:38 PM ET
I’d rather have Bo + 7M in cap space than McDavid

I don’t make that trade unless EDM retained a couple mil per year

- Nucker101


capspace is priceless
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 5:40 PM ET
I’d rather have Bo + 7M in cap space than McDavid

I don’t make that trade unless EDM retained a couple mil per year

- Nucker101

mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 10 @ 5:41 PM ET
That may have some truth to it however Bo is a 60 pt player...Draisaitl an 80 pt player and Mcdavid a 100 pt player. There has to be some form of separation or there is no point to wage structuring...may as well just pay them all the same..lol

People cried about the Crosby deal too but when you are the best player in the game (which McDavid arguably is) it is what it is.

- LordHumungous

Who is saying pay them all the same. Im saying Bo is better than McDavid if you factor in contracts. Plus who is to say Bo is a 60 point player.

No player in the league is worth that 12.5 million a year deal.

Bo and Boeser resigned or McDavid

Do you think because price is the best goalie he is worth 10.5 until he is 40 years old?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
Who is saying pay them all the same. Im saying Bo is better than McDavid if you factor in contracts. Plus who is to say Bo is a 60 point player.

No player in the league is worth that 12.5 million a year deal.

Bo and Boeser resigned or McDavid

Do you think because price is the best goalie he is worth 10.5 until he is 40 years old?

- mauryballstein


The price of players salaries go up over time as the league revenue increases, you do know that right?

how much will Tavares and karlsson get paid in your fantasy land where everyone gets paid in candy and hugs and should give a discount to the team so the ycan win?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
Toews gets 10.5 million, i could live with a three million discount and offer them 7 million each on a one year contract.

What's the same between these two things?

- Pres.cup

Stop trolling.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
I’d rather have Bo + 7M in cap space than McDavid

I don’t make that trade unless EDM retained a couple mil per year

- Nucker101


Edm thinks this year is bad.. just wait until mcdavids contract is actually here next year lol
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 10 @ 5:51 PM ET
The price of players salaries go up over time as the league revenue increases, you do know that right?

how much will Tavares and karlsson get paid in your fantasy land where everyone gets paid in candy and hugs and should give a discount to the team so the ycan win?

- neem55

I wouldnt want either player at the price and term they will cost. You just made my point exactly.

You probably think toews and kane are worth their deals?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 10 @ 5:52 PM ET
Who is saying pay them all the same. Im saying Bo is better than McDavid if you factor in contracts. Plus who is to say Bo is a 60 point player.

No player in the league is worth that 12.5 million a year deal.

Bo and Boeser resigned or McDavid

Do you think because price is the best goalie he is worth 10.5 until he is 40 years old?

- mauryballstein

lol of course not but I think you are missing the point on current market value...it'sike a lot of things in life you want the best you have to pay for it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 10 @ 5:53 PM ET
I wouldnt want either player at the price and term they will cost. You just made my point exactly.
- mauryballstein


100%

I’ll take character guys like Bo, Eriksson and Sutter who all could’ve gotten more from someone else over mercenaries like McJesus and Drai

These are the guys you win with and build a culture around
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