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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
Lol no penalty on either play ...and if you think the hit on Hedman was dirty then your watching the wrong sport
- Redmile247

Was just asking on the Hedman play as I heard it was knee'/knee but didn't see. Brouwer for sure took a cheap run at Sergachev tho I saw that play. Flames do have some jackass players though so was just curious on the Hedman hit.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
Nooooooooo.......he's in my pool
- LeftCoaster

Hits and PIM are a big part of your pool?
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Hits and PIM are a big part of your pool?
- manvanfan

Two of ten categories.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
StL is rumoured to be more in for a top 6 forward. TB, NYI, TML have been the most rumoured teams in for a RHD. All 3 have prospects and picks.
- manvanfan


St. Louis has been running with only 6 defensemen on roster for sometime now... and Gunnarson is a midget on that team at 6'2", so they need Gudbranson.
They could take Vanek as well. Robert Thomas or Kyrou would be a nice addition to our pool.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Mrazek is younger with better career numbers ...he had a 27 win season so teams will probably be more likely to take a chance on him
- Redmile247

Mrasek is without a doubt the better of the two. Nilsson doesn't have trasde value at this point IMO, too many decent backups out there for a cheaper price.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
There has been a lot of talk about how bad the LE signing has been and I couldn’t agree more. I know this is no consultation but look at the other big names signed in 2016.....none of them have turned out. Okoposo, Ladd, Nielsen, Brouwer, Lucic.....all longer term deals and have been poope for their respected teams. Anyway we slice it, we would have been stuck with a poopty contract no matter which player we went after.

The real mistake JB did was the structure of the deal is so bad which makes LE unmovable.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm thinking more the lines of the Chicago Bickell trade

Bryan Bickell
Teuvo Teravainen

For

2016 2nd round pick
2017 3rd round pick

LE has more value then Bickell did but has a larger contract.

- manvanfan


Who in your mind is the Teuvo Teravienen-type we would trade to make this work?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
Mrasek is without a doubt the better of the two. Nilsson doesn't have trasde value at this point IMO, too many decent backups out there for a cheaper price.
- neem55

His number don't exactly show it this year. bottom of page 29 for this years numbers.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:23 AM ET
There has been a lot of talk about how bad the LE signing has been and I couldn’t agree more. I know this is no consultation but look at the other big names signed in 2016.....none of them have turned out. Okoposo, Ladd, Nielsen, Brouwer, Lucic.....all longer term deals and have been poope for their respected teams. Anyway we slice it, we would have been stuck with a poopty contract no matter which player we went after.

The real mistake JB did was the structure of the deal is so bad which makes LE unmovable.

- Kaynine


It's pretty ironic that Ladd has been the best signing out of all of them, I'm pretty sure none of us wanted him and he has far and away played better than those guys. I guess you could make a case for Lucic, who had a nice year last year.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:25 AM ET
His number don't exactly show it this year. bottom of page 29 for this years numbers.
- manvanfan

All we can hope is that at some point between now and next year TDL he heats back up and JB sells high. But no loss if we let him go UFA after next year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Who in your mind is the Teuvo Teravienen-type we would trade to make this work?
- neem55

LE isn't as bad as Bickell. Granlund or Baertschi could fit in.

Granlund has shown this season that playing a shutdown role, he isn't a specialist at it. He can't play center. He's probably not good enough for a top 6 role.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Lack is pretty bad
- Redmile247

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
LE isn't as bad as Bickell. Granlund or Baertschi could fit in.

Granlund has shown this season that playing a shutdown role, he isn't a specialist at it. He can't play center. He's probably not good enough for a top 6 role.

- manvanfan


I disagree. Eriksson has a way bigger and longer contract. I like the idea of trying to trade him in a package, but we wont be getting a 2nd and 3rd for LE/Bae IMO
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
All we can hope is that at some point between now and next year TDL he heats back up and JB sells high. But no loss if we let him go UFA after next year.
- neem55

He would probably be better on most other teams because Van has Cloutier as the goalie coach. That hurts all goalies.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:30 AM ET
He would probably be better on most other teams because Van has Cloutier as the goalie coach. That hurts all goalies.
- manvanfan


Yes, safe to say he's not the best when it comes to understanding the psychological side of the game. Great coach for the tank though!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
Yes, safe to say he's not the best when it comes to understanding the psychological side of the game.
- neem55

Or tweaking their styles so they stop letting in the softest (frank)en goals every damn game. The same way he did.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
Would love any of these top5

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...rospect-rankings-january/
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
BREAKING: Blue Jays and Josh Donaldson avoid arbitration with one-year, $23-million deal
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
BREAKING: Blue Jays and Josh Donaldson avoid arbitration with one-year, $23-million deal
- manvanfan

Weak deal. I like shapiro/atkins less, if that's possible.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 12 @ 11:34 AM ET
Would love any of these top5

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...rospect-rankings-january/

- neem55

The race to second last
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
Would love any of these top5

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...rospect-rankings-january/

- neem55

Was talking to a behind the scenes hockey prospect guy for TSN. He was saying that Oliver Wahlstrom comparable is Kyle Connor and Barrett Hayton is this years Robert Thomas. Isac Lundestrom could be this years Lias Andersson.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 12 @ 11:36 AM ET
BREAKING: Blue Jays and Josh Donaldson avoid arbitration with one-year, $23-million deal
- manvanfan

Who cares.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
Who cares.
- Marwood

Here's a simple thought if you don't, then don't comment.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 12 @ 11:38 AM ET
There has been a lot of talk about how bad the LE signing has been and I couldn’t agree more. I know this is no consultation but look at the other big names signed in 2016.....none of them have turned out. Okoposo, Ladd, Nielsen, Brouwer, Lucic.....all longer term deals and have been poope for their respected teams. Anyway we slice it, we would have been stuck with a poopty contract no matter which player we went after.

The real mistake JB did was the structure of the deal is so bad which makes LE unmovable.

- Kaynine


I would rather have Brouwer at 4.5 million for 2.5 more years, than having LE at 6 million for another 4.5 years.

Edit: he has an ntc that is a 15 team no trade.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Tanev back in tonight Greener says.
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