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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
+/- requires added data eg cause & effect

Eg look at all time greats +/- vs team success. Orr Lidstrom who played top minutes against the best & go from there
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 12 @ 5:18 PM ET
+/- requires added data eg cause & effect

Eg look at all time greats +/- vs team success. Orr Lidstrom who played top minutes against the best & go from there

- Nighthawk



+/- went from being overrated to underrated these days imo
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 12 @ 5:19 PM ET


+/- went from being overrated to underrated these days imo

- Nucker101


It's fine when looking at a players career.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:21 PM ET
Look at the Canucks Corsi stats, they don’t add up to how I’d rank the players.
- Nucker101



That’s the type of stuff Corsi is criticized for.

- Nucker101


Eh, tools/toolbox.

Not that I'm in one camp or the other, and *shock* I think it's not black and white either. Heresy on HB. Both are useful when determining players' worth and impact... how through watching they can overtly influence (or not) a game, and through analytics how their impact on the game can be seen that otherwise may not.

And that (above) is what non-analytic people are criticized for, not understanding how the analytics people apply and evaluate said analytics
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 5:23 PM ET
Andrew Cogliano to a three-year extension through the 2020-21 season at an annual average salary of $3.25MM. Cogliano has suited up for all 43 games for the Ducks this season, extending his incredible streak to 829 games (his entire career in fact) without missing a single contest. The deal includes no signing bonuses, and gives him both no-trade protection for the rest of this season and a partial no-trade clause for the next three years.

There goes one of my hopeful off season acquisitions.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 12 @ 5:26 PM ET
Boeser has helped a lot of useless guys improve their plus/minus this season.

Take him off any offensive line and the stat goes south instantly.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:26 PM ET


+/- went from being overrated to underrated these days imo

- Nucker101


Sorta 😂😂
More like overwhelmed by the other myriad of data. Still it could use a renaissance by being revamped.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jan 12 @ 5:28 PM ET
I have the flu.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:29 PM ET
Boeser has helped a lot of useless guys improve their plus/minus this season.

Take him off any offensive line and the stat goes south instantly.

- boonerbuck



Shows he plays a good 5v5 2-way game.
He has at least 15pp points.
Summary is +/- shows his intangibles
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:32 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/stats

Canucks who r close to 0 +/- are good players on a lousy team who cannot avoid poor stats by any stat including analytics.
Eg BB & Bo r stars tbh

We simply add our prospects to the line-up when ready we will see jumps in stats.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 5:33 PM ET
True. 5 players on one team and 5 players on the other all contribute to every plus or negative in that stat.
- boonerbuck

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
Shows he plays a good 5v5 2-way game.
He has at least 15pp points.
Summary is +/- shows his intangibles

- Nighthawk


But does +/- show THEIR intangibles?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 12 @ 5:36 PM ET
Boeser has helped a lot of useless guys improve their plus/minus this season.

Take him off any offensive line and the stat goes south instantly.

- boonerbuck


That doesn't really make sense considering he is a -1......
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 5:47 PM ET
This ANALytics is even more boring than the Canucks . Bring back the hate,
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 5:48 PM ET
This ANALytics is even more boring than the Canucks . Bring back the hate,
- VANTEL

JB and TL 4 year extensions.

Let's discuss.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 5:49 PM ET
That doesn't really make sense considering he is a -1......
- belcherbd


Sh1tty goaltending
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
JB and TL 4 year extensions.

Let's discuss.....

- manvanfan





manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 5:54 PM ET
3-2 for Van tonight!

Boeser, Granlund, Pouliot.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 5:55 PM ET
3-2 for Van tonight!

Boeser, Granlund, Pouliot.

- manvanfan


Isnt DP sitting?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 6:01 PM ET
5-1 blue jackets tonight
2 goals from CBJ defense
Canucks outshot by atleast 20
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
Isnt DP sitting?
- Codes1087

yeah you're right. I remembered the line up wrong. Well it's going to be a 3-2 shootout win then for Van.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 12 @ 6:04 PM ET
yeah you're right. I remembered the line up wrong. Well it's going to be a 3-2 shootout win then for Van.
- manvanfan


I cant believe tanev is playing. Guy is a warrior.
Bakwas
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jan 12 @ 6:08 PM ET
yeah you're right. I remembered the line up wrong. Well it's going to be a 3-2 shootout win then for Van.
- manvanfan


Someone didn't read the blog...
Bakwas
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jan 12 @ 6:09 PM ET
I cant believe tanev is playing. Guy is a glass warrior.
- Codes1087



fixed!
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 12 @ 6:10 PM ET
Im going to preface this by saying....... I wasn't even aware their was major league rugby in Seattle......

They say Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.....
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