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Jan 14 @ 9:06 PM ET
Melrose didn't want him on the team. He did nothing to help him develop, that's why he was fired after 12 games or whatever it was.
Edit: 16 games. You don't fire a coach after 16 games especially going 5-7-4, it's not great, but Tocchett went 0-11 and kept his job this year. - Wetbandit1
I mean we could say he did nothing to help develop but him probably treating him like poop and saying he’s weak made him transform his game to the next level
But the Sabres basically woke him up lol I read an article that he was actually going to get traded to the Rangers before that Sabres game
I mean we could say he did nothing to help develop but him probably treating him like poop and saying he’s weak made him transform his game to the next level
But the Sabres basically woke him up lol I read an article that he was actually going to get traded to the Rangers before that Sabres game - GERBE!!!75PTS
Possibly, but that's why he was fired, because if he kept doing that he would've ruined him.
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
Jan 14 @ 9:34 PM ET
Found it
Rangers had done deal for Stamkos
STAM SHAM: Phenom Steven Stamkos was to come to the Rangers in a handshake deal last season, according to Glen Sather, but the Lightning backed out.
AP
SUNRISE, Fla. — It may sound like a fish story, but if so, then Glen Sather sure has come up with a whopper.
The Rangers’ GM told Slap Shots on Thursday that he “shook hands” on a trade last year that would have brought Steven Stamkos from Tampa Bay to New York less than halfway through the brilliant 20-year-old center’s rookie season.
We reported last year that the Lightning had dangled Stamkos through the early months of the season, during which the first-overall selection in the 2008 Entry Draft struggled badly, getting two goals (with five assists) in his first 21 games. There were questions in the organization about his readiness for the NHL.
The Rangers started working on the Tampa house-of-cards ownership during the teams’ trip to Prague, where the clubs opened the 2008-09 regular season with a pair of games. Sather got the ear of co-owner Len Barrie, a former NHL player. Conversations continued after the clubs returned to North America.
By the time the Blueshirts visited Tampa on Thanksgiving of 2008, the talks had become serious. Barrie was asking to choose two or three from a wish list that featured Michael Del Zotto, Evgeny Grachev, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Dan Girardi.
The deal, according to Sather, was struck. The Rangers would be getting Stamkos, who has scored 46 goals thus far this season, tied for second in the NHL with Alex Ovechkin and just one behind Sidney Crosby in the race for the Rocket Richard Trophy.
Oh, no, they wouldn’t.
“How close did we come?” Sather asked rhetorically, repeating the question we posed to him as the Rangers practiced in Tampa on Thursday. “We shook hands on it, that’s how close.
“I’d been on it since Europe. I had an agreement with Len Barrie. I asked him if he had the authority to make the trade, and he assured me that he did, because he was an owner.
“But the next day, I found out that he didn’t. He went to run the deal by [GM] Brian Lawton, who wanted no part of it. As I understood it, the way it was told to me, Barrie was still going to make the deal, but then he was told that he couldn’t unless he got the approval of [co-owner] Oren Koules.
“Koules shot it down,” said Sather. “That was the end of it.”
Koules and Barrie further could not agree on a trade last June that would have sent Vincent Lecavalier and his massive contract to Montreal in exchange for a package featuring goaltender Carey Price. Dysfunction in that case benefited Sather, for it allowed him to then move Scott Gomez to the Canadiens.
That Lightning ownership is gone. So is the opportunity to trade for Stamkos.
We had him,” Sather said. “Well, I thought we did.”
STAM SHAM: Phenom Steven Stamkos was to come to the Rangers in a handshake deal last season, according to Glen Sather, but the Lightning backed out.
AP
SUNRISE, Fla. — It may sound like a fish story, but if so, then Glen Sather sure has come up with a whopper.
The Rangers’ GM told Slap Shots on Thursday that he “shook hands” on a trade last year that would have brought Steven Stamkos from Tampa Bay to New York less than halfway through the brilliant 20-year-old center’s rookie season.
We reported last year that the Lightning had dangled Stamkos through the early months of the season, during which the first-overall selection in the 2008 Entry Draft struggled badly, getting two goals (with five assists) in his first 21 games. There were questions in the organization about his readiness for the NHL.
The Rangers started working on the Tampa house-of-cards ownership during the teams’ trip to Prague, where the clubs opened the 2008-09 regular season with a pair of games. Sather got the ear of co-owner Len Barrie, a former NHL player. Conversations continued after the clubs returned to North America.
By the time the Blueshirts visited Tampa on Thanksgiving of 2008, the talks had become serious. Barrie was asking to choose two or three from a wish list that featured Michael Del Zotto, Evgeny Grachev, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Dan Girardi.
The deal, according to Sather, was struck. The Rangers would be getting Stamkos, who has scored 46 goals thus far this season, tied for second in the NHL with Alex Ovechkin and just one behind Sidney Crosby in the race for the Rocket Richard Trophy.
Oh, no, they wouldn’t.
“How close did we come?” Sather asked rhetorically, repeating the question we posed to him as the Rangers practiced in Tampa on Thursday. “We shook hands on it, that’s how close.
“I’d been on it since Europe. I had an agreement with Len Barrie. I asked him if he had the authority to make the trade, and he assured me that he did, because he was an owner.
“But the next day, I found out that he didn’t. He went to run the deal by - GERBE!!!75PTS[GM] Brian Lawton, who wanted no part of it. As I understood it, the way it was told to me, Barrie was still going to make the deal, but then he was told that he couldn’t unless he got the approval of [co-owner] Oren Koules.
“Koules shot it down,” said Sather. “That was the end of it.”
Koules and Barrie further could not agree on a trade last June that would have sent Vincent Lecavalier and his massive contract to Montreal in exchange for a package featuring goaltender Carey Price. Dysfunction in that case benefited Sather, for it allowed him to then move Scott Gomez to the Canadiens.
That Lightning ownership is gone. So is the opportunity to trade for Stamkos.
We had him,” Sather said. “Well, I thought we did.”
Botts bought low on him
He adds some speed
His goals are huge
He could potentially land a 2nd or 3rd
As for the goals, imagine if a couple of girgs, larsson, nolan, josefson, Moulson, or griffith had a surprise 20 goal pace this year. Pouliot and Pominville are currently the only bottom 6 guys who are have decent goal scoring seasons.
The Sabres would be in a lot better shape if a couple of the other guys could find the net without Eichel. Pouliot has done that this year, sometimes spectacularly.
I give Botterill a lot of credit for that move. I also think Wilson and Beaulieu were a waste of a 5th and a 3rd. I honestly have no opinion of him as GM, and I won't until he makes his first splashy move - jcragcrumple
U call Pouliot & Pommer “bottom6” but all they’re goals have been scored when they played in the top6
Another call that Getbe got right that Fattony, & Douche & Jochr, etc etc etc never even made a call on
U guys hate on Getbe has gone WAY too far
And since Maoist of u rarely even have an opinion...
he’s probably right more than you guys combined!!!! - jdfitz77
I don’t need to “make calls”.
Have I made a few points over my years, yes.
Was the first one to say Reinhart would struggle to be a #1 center and his ceiling was RNH at best. Nailed that. My criticism of him got people to nickname him skunk on here
Said the Sabres would take years to make the playoffs. Some people called me an “instant troll” for that comment
Called Tyrod being a decent NFL starter when he was third string behind EJ and Kolb.
Said Murray would target Lehner when everyone wanted Talbot.
I just don’t need to ramble on and on how “I get stuff right” like the people with low self esteem here ...
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Jan 14 @ 11:55 PM ET
I don’t need to “make calls”.
Have I made a few points over my years, yes.
Was the first one to say Reinhart would struggle to be a #1 center and his ceiling was RNH at best. Nailed that. My criticism of him got people to nickname him skunk on here
Said the Sabres would take years to make the playoffs. Some people called me an “instant troll” for that comment
Called Tyrod being a decent NFL starter when he was third string behind EJ and Kolb.
Said Murray would target Lehner when everyone wanted Talbot.
I just don’t need to ramble on and on how “I get stuff right” like the people with low self esteem here ... - Fattony1187
I got laughed at when I said I had low self esteem.
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
Jan 14 @ 11:58 PM ET
I don’t need to “make calls”.
Have I made a few points over my years, yes.
Was the first one to say Reinhart would struggle to be a #1 center and his ceiling was RNH at best. Nailed that. My criticism of him got people to nickname him skunk on here
If he was anything close to ROR I think everyone would be pretty happy I don't see him as that
Said the Sabres would take years to make the playoffs. Some people called me an “instant troll” for that comment
Called Tyrod being a decent NFL starter when he was third string behind EJ and Kolb.
You supported tyrod every game even when he sucked so much balls
Said Murray would target Lehner when everyone wanted Talbot.
I for one wanted none
I just don’t need to ramble on and on how “I get stuff right” like the people with low self esteem here ... - Fattony1187
