Who does he play for currently? What are his numbers?
- Marwood

Dense has great corsi and fat ankles

I wouldnt be upset at signing a under 30 player to more than 1 season if he was good.

Kane, JVR, Backlund may consider signing.
- boonerbuck

The problem is theyll want 6 or 7 years. Then you end up with erikson all over again. Older players cant hang with the speed anymore it seems careers might start to become shorter.

I'm just glad that there were a bunch of us still doing it...
- Pres.cup

When you are behind, reading an old thread, sometimes you just have to respond. It's not old to you, you are in the moment.

and you just have to post in reply to some of the crazy sht on here.

I wouldnt be upset at signing a under 30 player to more than 1 season if he was good.

Kane, JVR, Backlund may consider signing.
- boonerbuck

That's not re-building, that's staying competitive on the fly. In my opinion.

Jack johnson might be a good stop gap on defense.
- mauryballstein

Expensive i would think tho. He wont be cheap to acquire, and isnt his cap hit higher than what it should be?

Look how ladd lucic and erikson have panned out as examples.

You want to pay maroon 6x6? Those will be the types of deals getting handed out.

I would rather pick up a couple of bad contracts that are 1 or 2 years in length and take assets with them. Use the cap space to speed up the rebuild while maintaining cap flexibility. This is also something we can if we resign sedins to cheap one yaer deals.
- mauryballstein

Where do you come up with that? Geez man.

That's not re-building, that's staying competitive on the fly. In my opinion.
- Marwood

Those players are too skilled and will be too expensive, and youre right, dont really count as stop gaps but rather new core players. But isnt keeping the sedins the same as rebuilding on the fly? They arent going to keep us any more competitive than say bringing in a guy like JT Brown or Josh Bailey.

Expensive i would think tho. He wont be cheap to acquire, and isnt his cap hit higher than what it should be?
- Codes1087

You dont acquire him. Expensive on short term doesnt matter if we have cap space. then we can flip in a year or 2,

I would be fine with it if they played 3rd/4th line minutes next year. They get primarily offensive zone starts, high minutes, 1st unit PP. I just want a bit of a refresh and see the new core excel into their current roles a bit.
- Codes1087

Only reason they get those are injuries.
Would you rather see dowd and Chaput one pp1? Twins are getting ppg right now with no help.

Those players are too skilled and will be too expensive, and youre right, dont really count as stop gaps but rather new core players. But isnt keeping the sedins the same as rebuilding on the fly? They arent going to keep us any more competitive than say bringing in a guy like JT Brown or Josh Bailey.
- Codes1087

Not when their role and ice time is diminishing as younger players are stepping up.

The problem is theyll want 6 or 7 years. Then you end up with erikson all over again. Older players cant hang with the speed anymore it seems careers might start to become shorter.
- mauryballstein

Even with a 6 year deal these guys would exit at 33/34 yrs old and tradable more likely than not. Eriksson was in his 30's when he signed, not 20's.

Where do you come up with that? Geez man.
- manvanfan

Id rather him making 6 right now then ladd, lucic or erikson... these are the types of over payments that will be made. Just look at past history.

Im pretty sure no one here is saying no to maroon at 2 million per at 3 years.. the problem is that will never happen.

You dont acquire him. Expensive on short term doesnt matter if we have cap space. then we can flip in a year or 2,
- mauryballstein

Hes a ufa next year and has a 4.36 cap hit. He has just come out with a trade request. I would think cbj tries to trade him before he goes free though. I imagine he asks for 5 mill aav on the open market.

Not when their role and ice time is diminishing as younger players are stepping up.
- Marwood

I completely agree but there have been zero signs of the sedins having diminished anything, which is why im reluctant to have them resign. 1st unit pp. Top 6 minutes. Offensive zone starts. I dont see them developing any young player on their line. If they take 2 mill each, play 10 minutes and get 2nd unit PP or no PP time at all, im all for it.

Even with a 6 year deal these guys would exit at 33/34 yrs old and tradable more likely than not. Eriksson was in his 30's when he signed, not 20's.
- boonerbuck

I dont agree at all. Brent seabrook says hi

The game is changing. How many good players are there in the their 30s. Even so why fill up a roster spot when we have loads of forward prospects coming in 2 or 3 years.

Literally this is what screwed the oilers and sabres. You cant speed up the rebuild with one or 2 free agents on terrible contracts.

Stick to a full rebuild. You add a player like that when you have a hole and you are back to contending.

Hes a ufa next year and has a 4.36 cap hit. He has just come out with a trade request. I would think cbj tries to trade him before he goes free though. I imagine he asks for 5 mill aav on the open market.
- Codes1087

give him 5 at 2 years who cares retain 50% salary and then flip at the deadline potentially.

the point is no longer term deals.

That's not re-building, that's staying competitive on the fly. In my opinion.
- Marwood

I think after this draft upcoming, we will be well stocked prospect wise and still continuing to add players of quality from lower in the draft as the team starts winning more games in the regular season. eg: Boeser, Gaudette, Demko, Lind, Gado... have not come from top 10 picks. This trend has no reason to end.

I completely agree but there have been zero signs of the sedins having diminished anything, which is why im reluctant to have them resign. 1st unit pp. Top 6 minutes. Offensive zone starts. I dont see them developing any young player on their line. If they take 2 mill each, play 10 minutes and get 2nd unit PP or no PP time at all, im all for it.
- Codes1087

Not when the team was fully healthy.

I think after this draft upcoming, we will be well stocked prospect wise and still continuing to add players of quality from lower in the draft as the team starts winning more games in the regular season. eg: Boeser, Gaudette, Demko, Lind, Gado... have not come from top 10 picks. This trend has no reason to end.
- boonerbuck

Read a few articles today saying 2018 is one of the deepest drafts in a while. Came from the same guys who immediately praised the pettersson, lind, gadjovich, dipietro picks last year. Really hoping brackett and company have another successful draft this year.

I think after this draft upcoming, we will be well stocked prospect wise and still continuing to add players of quality from lower in the draft as the team starts winning more games in the regular season. eg: Boeser, Gaudette, Demko, Lind, Gado... have not come from top 10 picks. This trend has no reason to end.
- boonerbuck

But most the guys you mentioned are at least a year or 2 away from being on the team.

I like...
- Pres.cup

The truth is the least realistic part of that lineup is that Edler isn't a part of it

give him 5 at 2 years who cares retain 50% salary and then flip at the deadline potentially.

the point is no longer term deals.
- mauryballstein

I agree. No more than 4 mill a year, 2 years or less for all ufas.

But most the guys you mentioned are at least a year or 2 away from being on the team.
- Marwood

Im hoping we dont see anyone in the lineup, who doesnt deserve to be, in the next 2 years. These kids are being relied upon so much for our future. We need to develop them properly

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Why can't Van sign someone else? Who can actually skate.
- manvanfan


I think we can.

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents
-Booner




Everybody else seems to understand but you.
- manvanfan

Awesome let’s offer them one year deals, let’s see how many jump to join this bottom feeding team for one year. You get that right, sign the Sedins to a one year deal while prospects develop.

I dont agree at all. Brent seabrook says hi

The game is changing. How many good players are there in the their 30s. Even so why fill up a roster spot when we have loads of forward prospects coming in 2 or 3 years.

Literally this is what screwed the oilers and sabres. You cant speed up the rebuild with one or 2 free agents on terrible contracts.

Stick to a full rebuild. You add a player like that when you have a hole and you are back to contending.
- mauryballstein

I think you are confusing me for someone else or just mashing opinions into one. I stated drop the Sedins, sign a younger player to fill one position, fill the other from within. The Canucks are in a position to let other players walk or trade them as well. Lots of roster and cap room. One player will not get in the way of progress in the rebuild if he's a short term vet or a normal deal with a 28 year old. Signing Kane is not like signing Erikksson in my opinion either.

If I want to clog up the roster with near 40 year old vets, I'd just say sign the Sedins.