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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 17 @ 9:47 AM ET
other than Kane


pouliot is a 3rd or prospect

gorges is a 3rd or prospect

it's kane, and a question of when to move gorges and pouliot


maybe josefson, small chatter on him but they like him

- homiedclown





a third?!
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
Right, but we're all aware of Buffaluck. We are in a position of strength now, we might not be in a month. If GMJB is receiving fair to above fair offers now, he should seriously consider pulling the trigger. What he's asking for is greedy on an absurd level, but if he gets it, he's a frigging genius. But, I feel that presently he might be playing with fire.
- sskkoo1

I said a few days ago that a deal for Kane may vary, now if we get an NHL ready young players obviuosly the rest of the deal won't be as strong. If he gets picks and prospects it will change the deal as well. Many factors will go into play including other players he moves and what he gets in those deals can also impact a Kane trade. The Kane trade can also impact other deals as well. That's why you can't rush and worry about what other teams are doing.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jan 17 @ 9:49 AM ET
other than Kane


pouliot is a 3rd or prospect

gorges is a 3rd or prospect

it's kane, and a question of when to move gorges and pouliot


maybe josefson, small chatter on him but they like him

- homiedclown



I think we can move Lehner and Reinhart to the list of assets for sale. They might not have the UFA tag, but I'd bet they're up for grabs.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
I think we can move Lehner and Reinhart to the list of assets for sale. They might not have the UFA tag, but I'd bet they're up for grabs.
- sskkoo1

Not a lot of interest in Lehner.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:54 AM ET
I think we can move Lehner and Reinhart to the list of assets for sale. They might not have the UFA tag, but I'd bet they're up for grabs.
- sskkoo1

keep going


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:54 AM ET
Not a lot of interest in Lehner.
- SABRES 89

them clunkers hurt his trade value
SABRES 89
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Jan 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
them clunkers hurt his trade value
- homiedclown

Do you pay EJ Gaines are let him walk ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
Do you pay EJ Gaines are let him walk ?
- SABRES 89

my priorities

1. kyle williams 5 mil
2. gaines 7 mil
3. henderson 2.5 mil
4. matthews on the cheap 4 mil (doubt it happens)
5. tate 800 k
6. preston brown, only if price is realistic 4 mil



ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:23 AM ET
If he gets that much he should be the GM of the year

But I highly doubt he gets that much

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Of course he wont.

Always ask for more than you are going to get. its like buying a house. Never go in at full price at first.

Simple business 101. He knows he is going to get low ball offers, so if he only asks for a first round pick, he gets third round pick offers.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Of course he wont.

Always ask for more than you are going to get. its like buying a house. Never go in at full price at first.

Simple business 101. He knows he is going to get low ball offers, so if he only asks for a first round pick, he gets third round pick offers.

- ImThatGuy

Enjoying the snow in Georgia?

(frank) this weather!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Polak...

This isn't rushing the rebuild like what Murray tried to do, this is rushing a few weeks a head to make sure we get a good return for our UFAs. If kane can bring back a 1st, a prospect, and a 3rd, why wait? If the Leafs start to lose and JVR goes up for grabs, he becomes the most coveted UFA for sale and Kane's value goes down.

Right now the Leafs are willing to let all of their UFAs walk for nothing given that they believe they'll be having a playoff run. If those playoff expectations evaporate in the next few weeks, bet your bottom dollar they'll be selling these guys and it becomes more of a buyers market than a sellers.

- sskkoo1


Not exactly IMO.
If one of those teams arms themselves with JVR rather than Kane, it puts additional pressure on the remaining teams to arm themselves as well just to presumptively “stay even” with said team.
An arms race with limited arms and multiple suitors actually drives the price tag higher.
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
Of course he wont.

Always ask for more than you are going to get. its like buying a house. Never go in at full price at first.

Simple business 101. He knows he is going to get low ball offers, so if he only asks for a first round pick, he gets third round pick offers.

- ImThatGuy


What housing market have you been around lately? Certainly not Erie County.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
What housing market have you been around lately? Certainly not Erie County.
- buffalokb


Ya exactly.

“simple economics 101” is first understanding the impact the law of supply and demand has on price. In periods of high demand, bottom feeders find themselves out in the cold with their offer under price strategy, in most cases.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
Ya exactly.

“simple economics 101” is first understanding the impact the law of supply and demand has on price. In periods of high demand, bottom feeders find themselves out in the cold with their offer under price strategy, in most cases.

- IonSabres



I think it's time for Botts/Housley to put a new coat of paint in the house to drive up prices:

Kane-Eichel-Okposo

Kane is slumping a bit without Eichel

SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:01 AM ET
Leafs are 4pts from being out of a playoff spot. If they take any key injuries and start to falter, they can own the UFA sellers market. I hope GMGB sells sooner than later.
- sskkoo1


This is wrong. The Leafs are 11 points ahead of Detroit for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic division. In fact, the Atlantic is almost done in terms of the order - Tampa 1st, Boston 2nd and Leafs 3rd. Of course, the Bruins/Leafs might swap positions between now and April
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Johansen now out for preds. They are getting devastated up front.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
This is wrong. The Leafs are 11 points ahead of Detroit for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic division. In fact, the Atlantic is almost done in terms of the order - Tampa 1st, Boston 2nd and Leafs 3rd. Of course, the Bruins/Leafs might swap positions between now and April
- SabreWest

florida is the only realistic team that can catch them, assuming price does not go on insane run

panthers 12 points out, 3 games in hand

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Johansen now out for preds. They are getting devastated up front.
- Fattony1187

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
Johansen now out for preds. They are getting devastated up front.
- Fattony1187



Also this:

Saros was marvelous again, compiling a 43-save shutout and a highlight reel brimming with acrobatic stops. He has a 5-0-3 record in his past nine appearances (which includes one perfect relief outing) with a 1.53 goals-against average, .956 save percentage and three shutouts

We somehow lost the Gaustad + 4th for a first round pick

unbelievable
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Also this:

Saros was marvelous again, compiling a 43-save shutout and a highlight reel brimming with acrobatic stops. He has a 5-0-3 record in his past nine appearances (which includes one perfect relief outing) with a 1.53 goals-against average, .956 save percentage and three shutouts

We somehow lost the Gaustad + 4th for a first round pick

unbelievable

- jcragcrumple

but we got the all star


sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:19 AM ET
This is wrong. The Leafs are 11 points ahead of Detroit for the 3rd spot in the Atlantic division. In fact, the Atlantic is almost done in terms of the order - Tampa 1st, Boston 2nd and Leafs 3rd. Of course, the Bruins/Leafs might swap positions between now and April
- SabreWest



Ah, thank you for the correction, I was only looking at the points wildcard teams have.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
Do you pay EJ Gaines are let him walk ?
- SABRES 89


I’d pay the man based on his play, buy obviously depending on his demands.
What is he asking for?
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jan 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
Buffalo has brought up Casey Nelson from Rochester.

Nelson joined the Sabres for practice on Wednesday because Nathan Beaulieu is out with an illness. He has posted 11 points and a plus-11 rating in 37 games with the Americans this season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
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Jan 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Buffalo has brought up Casey Nelson from Rochester.

Nelson joined the Sabres for practice on Wednesday because Nathan Beaulieu is out with an illness. He has posted 11 points and a plus-11 rating in 37 games with the Americans this season.

- SABRES 89

not surprised


saw what they needed to see from guhle, give another kid a shot for a game or 2



side note, beaulieu STINKS
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Can they afford Kane ? the Pens would like Kane as well but don't think they can afford him, plus Botterill likes Maatta and Sprong, not sure how serious the Sprong one is though.
- SABRES 89



Bring me Sprong
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