Money and a chance to play with Boeser
- Nucker101

How much would you pay the man?

Is it low risk? He’ll be taking away playing time from a younger player and that cap space and roster spot could be used on a more reliable player, ideally a younger one with more speed. UFA or from within. And if he struggles next year no one will want him at the TDL.

We’ve seen this sort of thing before with guys like Vrbata and Shawn Matthias
- Nucker101

What sort of thing? Vrbada was not resigned and had a NTC. It was a 2 year deal and the team had a different goal at the time. Let's see how trading Vanek goes. If he lands us a 2nd round pick and wants to return... I say do it unless they resign the Sedins of course..

Ok, but I'm arguing this point against signing two Sedins vs one Vanek. It was only 2 days ago that I presented signing a single UFA in his 20's to a multi year deal instead of resigning both Sedins on a shorter 2 or the unlikely single year.

If Vanek snags us a decent pick, then I see it as low risk. There are 6 players on the roster that are set to become UFA's in the summer. I really don't see this difficulty a single forward on a 1 year will bring.
- boonerbuck

I think the only bigger UFA i would consider is JVR. I would be cool with some 1 year TDL deals that can sit if they are being out performed, however Vanek has to be traded no matter what. There is no value in keeping him for next season if we don't trade him this season.

I think the only bigger UFA i would consider is JVR. I would be cool with some 1 year TDL deals that can sit if they are being out performed, however Vanek has to be traded no matter what. There is no value in keeping him for next season if we don't trade him this season.
- Retinalz

Is there a NHL rule that he can't be signed by the Canucks if he's traded by the Canucks?

Make it work...

Is there a NHL rule that he can't be signed by the Canucks if he's traded by the Canucks?

Make it work...
- boonerbuck

There is no rule, but he may not want to come back. Or the team we trade him too may like him and decide to keep him if he signs at a good cost.

Is there a NHL rule that he can't be signed by the Canucks if he's traded by the Canucks?

Make it work...
- boonerbuck

Although Vanek signed a 1 year deal at a very reasonable 2 million, he is still being paid 2.5 million for this season, from the buyout from Minnesota.
How much would he want on another 1 year deal, if he would even accept that.

What sort of thing? Vrbada was not resigned and had a NTC. It was a 2 year deal and the team had a different goal at the time. Let's see how trading Vanek goes. If he lands us a 2nd round pick and wants to return... I say do it unless they resign the Sedins of course..
- boonerbuck

A player having a better than expected season and then disappointing the next season.

Trade Vanek and let the Sedins walk.

How much would you pay the man?
- neem55

He’s certainly better than Sutter and Sutter got 4.5M long-term so anything that’s not way above that would be good value with the cap going up again.

Going price for legit 2LC’s is upwards of 6M-ish per long term. I think Calgary will lock him up for less than that since he’s comfortable there.

How did that work with Willies guys?
- CanuckDon

Dorsett and Vey

I heard a good name for Eriksson on the radio today


SLUMP DOG MILLIONAIRE

He’s certainly better than Sutter and Sutter got 4.5M long-term so anything that’s not way above that would be good value with the cap going up again.

Going price for legit 2LC’s is upwards of 6M-ish per long term. I think Calgary will lock him up for less than that since he’s comfortable there.
- Nucker101

over 5 I'd say for sure, Vancouver would have to pay him more to lure him away 6 or more.

A player having a better than expected season and then disappointing the next season.

Trade Vanek and let the Sedins walk.
- Nucker101

Yes, this.
Then we can have a third line of erikson, Dowd and virt. Makes a great deal of sense to me, although i fear what our fourth line will look like.

Filled from within. No unproven rookies who dont require waivers unless they force there way onto the team
THAT means they arn't being penciled in but might push a player onto waivers.

Sven bo Boeser
Gagner Sutter granlund
Eriksson Dowd virtanan
Goldy. Guance Chaput
Magna

Whatever way you mix that up it is a hot mess. No thanks. Keep the twins, trade Vanek. Megna and Chaput can stay in the minors

Sven bo Boeser
Goldy Sutter virtanan
Dank. Hank. Granlund
Eriksson. Dowd. Guance
Anybody

Tell me which team is going to win more games.
And no magical bean player that is better and will take less money (personally I'd pay Kane 6x6 and push guance out of the line-up).

You get better by pushing players down the line-up not by making lateral moves.

It's going to be announced at the end of the season that Trevor Linden will step up to replace Jim Benning as the General Manager.
- boonerbuck

And bennings going to the oilers, gretz coming out of retirement to mentor mcgrumpy, kieth gretzky moving up to assist jimbo you heard it hear first.

I can't believe some people say don't trade Vanek .

You know to actually have a rebuild you do need to say bye to players.

I can't believe some people say don't trade Vanek .

You know to actually have a rebuild you do need to say bye to players.
- VANTEL

Everything that isn’t nailed down

I can't believe some people say don't trade Vanek .

You know to actually have a rebuild you do need to say bye to players.
- VANTEL

Can we sign a petition to have him stay?

Yes, this.
Then we can have a third line of erikson, Dowd and virt. Makes a great deal of sense to me, although i fear what our fourth line will look like.

Filled from within. No unproven rookies who dont require waivers unless they force there way onto the team
THAT means they arn't being penciled in but might push a player onto waivers.

Sven bo Boeser
Gagner Sutter granlund
Eriksson Dowd virtanan
Goldy. Guance Chaput
Magna

Whatever way you mix that up it is a hot mess. No thanks. Keep the twins, trade Vanek. Megna and Chaput can stay in the minors

Sven bo Boeser
Goldy Sutter virtanan
Dank. Hank. Granlund
Eriksson. Dowd. Guance
Anybody

Tell me which team is going to win more games.
And no magical bean player that is better and will take less money (personally I'd pay Kane 6x6 and push guance out of the line-up).

You get better by pushing players down the line-up not by making lateral moves.
- Pres.cup

I’m assuming the team would use the freed up cap space to sign a UFA or 2.

I do think the valid argument to bringing the Sedins back is that they’d accept 1 year hometown discounts compared the other UFA’s who put up 40-50 points who may demand more money and term, like Gagner did.

I can't believe some people say don't trade Vanek .

You know to actually have a rebuild you do need to say bye to players.
- VANTEL

I assume they’re taking about a trade and then sign again type of situation. If not, then lol.

There is no rule, but he may not want to come back. Or the team we trade him too may like him and decide to keep him if he signs at a good cost.
- Retinalz

Whats your point? If he signs with someone else... you don't sign him. Simple.

Whats your point? If he signs with someone else... you don't sign him. Simple.

- boonerbuck

I’ve had trouble sleeping lately. The thought of Vanek in another jersey is devastating

A player having a better than expected season and then disappointing the next season.

Trade Vanek and let the Sedins walk.
- Nucker101

Let me present it this way.... if Vanek gets us a 2nd round pick at the TDL, the risk is still too high to try the same contract again this summer if he's available?

Letting 5 of 6 UFA's walk is not hurting our abulity to put some prospects in the line up. At least I don't think so...

By the way, I heard this Vanek argument when he was signed. Let's see how the TDL goes and discuss it after.

I heard a good name for Eriksson on the radio today


SLUMP DOG MILLIONAIRE
- VANTEL

Yes, this.
Then we can have a third line of erikson, Dowd and virt. Makes a great deal of sense to me, although i fear what our fourth line will look like.

Filled from within. No unproven rookies who dont require waivers unless they force there way onto the team
THAT means they arn't being penciled in but might push a player onto waivers.

Sven bo Boeser
Gagner Sutter granlund
Eriksson Dowd virtanan
Goldy. Guance Chaput
Magna

Whatever way you mix that up it is a hot mess. No thanks. Keep the twins, trade Vanek. Megna and Chaput can stay in the minors

Sven bo Boeser
Goldy Sutter virtanan
Dank. Hank. Granlund
Eriksson. Dowd. Guance
Anybody

Tell me which team is going to win more games.
And no magical bean player that is better and will take less money (personally I'd pay Kane 6x6 and push guance out of the line-up).

You get better by pushing players down the line-up not by making lateral moves.
- Pres.cup

You can't agree with Nucker on Vanek and then say re-sign the Sedins. Sedins are TWO players and OLDER and will get paid MORE.

I can't believe some people say don't trade Vanek .

You know to actually have a rebuild you do need to say bye to players.
- VANTEL

1040?

Let me present it this way.... if Vanek gets us a 2nd round pick at the TDL, the risk is still too high to try the same contract again this summer if he's available?

Letting 5 of 6 UFA's walk is not hurting our abulity to put some prospects in the line up. At least I don't think so...

By the way, I heard this Vanek argument when he was signed. Let's see how the TDL goes and discuss it after.

- boonerbuck

I’m just saying that if we want a new identity post-Sedins I think having some vets who play a certain style can help. More speed and aggression. Otherwise why not just sign the Sedins for 1 year?

And yeah, the Vanek move paid off nicely this year but going back to the same wishing well twice may be pushing your luck.

Especially if he sucks again in the playoffs for his new team. How many GM’s will even consider him as a TDL pickup in 2019 at that point?

And If he has a good playoff then I don’t think he’ll be back in Vancouver anyway.